Alexander Isak - International C*nt

[gdm]

3 minutes ago, WinstonFC said:

Did we? I thought we just rejected there ridiculous bid and he wasn't for sale.

If we haven’t why are we trying to sign one 

[et tu brute]

52 minutes ago, toon25 said:

 

I think they'll come in with 140 on deadline day

And they will then be told to fuck right off

[tarie4]

1 minute ago, gdm said:

I’ve deleted twitter but I’m certain Romano, Ornstein, Hope & downie have all said 

Romano's been chatting about doors, and the other three are chiming in. It's all just opinions, not official stuff. Like Ornstein's take on selling Isak to fund transfers – the same Ornstein who said Isak was staying this summer.

 

Look, there's no official word from Newcastle about selling Isak once we get a replacement.

 

Liverpool asked, we said no.

 

Liverpool bid, we said no. No counter, no price. We went into the summer wanting a CM, CB, RW, CF, and GK. We got the RW and GK, and tried for a CF, but no luck.

 

It's total BS to say Liverpool bid once Jackson comes in.

 

Liverpool's being linked to Barcola. It's not as simple as you're making it out to be.

 

Liverpool won't wait for us. They gotta look out for themselves, just like we're waiting on Brentford and Wissa.

[tarie4]

2 minutes ago, gdm said:

If we haven’t why are we trying to sign one 

A striker was always on the shopping list this summer. Even with Isak happy in the squad. We still go for a striker mate. 

[gdm]

Just now, tarie4 said:

Romano's been chatting about doors, and the other three are chiming in. It's all just opinions, not official stuff. Like Ornstein's take on selling Isak to fund transfers – the same Ornstein who said Isak was staying this summer.

 

Look, there's no official word from Newcastle about selling Isak once we get a replacement.

 

Liverpool asked, we said no.

 

Liverpool bid, we said no. No counter, no price. We went into the summer wanting a CM, CB, RW, CF, and GK. We got the RW and GK, and tried for a CF, but no luck.

 

It's total BS to say Liverpool bid once Jackson comes in.

 

Liverpool's being linked to Barcola. It's not as simple as you're making it out to be.

 

Liverpool won't wait for us. They gotta look out for themselves, just like we're waiting on Brentford and Wissa.

again, I’m just looking at it logically if we don’t intent to sell Isak or don’t think Liverpool can afford it why are we spending 3 weeks trying to sign his replacement 

[gdm]

Just now, tarie4 said:

A striker was always on the shopping list this summer. Even with Isak happy in the squad. We still go for a striker mate. 

Agreed but pretty much every source said Šeško would have been viewed as an Isak replacement but it’s pointless discussing it as you don’t appear to believe the sources which is fine 

[Infinitely Content]

1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

Yeah there have been much worse situations than this. Rooney put in a transfer request when he was heavily linked with Man City then ended up at Man United for another 7 years.

 

The only one that still seems to get brought up as nearly happening is Gerrard to Chelsea. 

You're right in theory, but in reality Gerrard eventually choosing to stay at his boyhood Liverpool, a bigger club than us, and Rooney choosing to stay at Man United, one of three biggest clubs in the world (certainly at the time), feel like very different scenarios to me than Isak choosing to stay here. Both of them were likely in part swayed by the stature of their respective clubs at the time and the prospect of success and in Gerrard's case, captaincy. Whereas, to put it bluntly, I don't think Isak could care less about Newcastle United in regards to the feeling of being our player and any loyalty to the club.

Thankfully it doesn't really matter, because he will have to stay here if the club act as they should.

[WinstonFC]

3 minutes ago, gdm said:

If we haven’t why are we trying to sign one 

We were trying to sign one before Liverpools 'approach'. They were told  not for sale, we still hadnt signed one and they made a bid. Again they were told not for sale.

[tarie4]

8 minutes ago, gdm said:

again, I’m just looking at it logically if we don’t intent to sell Isak or don’t think Liverpool can afford it why are we spending 3 weeks trying to sign his replacement 

Again a cf was always on the list. When we went for JP why didnt the same sources say JP was a Isak replacement?

Why didnt Romano/Hope say this?

As i said. Its their opinions not fact. The club has never stated their position. 

 

We bid for Delap, then JP, then Ekitike. Why didn't anyone say, "These are Isak replacements" back then? The same sources "knew" Isak was leaving ages ago. Come on, it's obvious the story changed.

Media bs.

 

 

Edited August 7, 2025 by tarie4

[Kid Icarus]

7 minutes ago, Infinitely Content said:

You're right in theory, but in reality Gerrard eventually choosing to stay at his boyhood Liverpool, a bigger club than us, and Rooney choosing to stay at Man United, one of three biggest clubs in the world (certainly at the time), feel like very different scenarios to me than Isak choosing to stay here. Both of them were likely in part swayed by the stature of their respective clubs at the time and the prospect of success and in Gerrard's case, captaincy. Whereas, to put it bluntly, I don't think Isak could care less about Newcastle United in regards to the feeling of being our player and any loyalty to the club.

Thankfully it doesn't really matter, because he will have to stay here if the club act as they should.

They were just two examples to show how far down the line and seemingly irretrievable things can get with players before being turned around.

 

It's not even necessarily about staying. I don't want Isak here, but I'm sickened by us selling him to a supposed domestic rival. The likes of Coutinho, Suarez, Kane, Modric still got their moves away from Liverpool and Spurs, but crucially it was on the club's terms and in Suarez, Kane, and Modric's case, their moves to Arsenal, Man City, and Chelsea were blocked and they went abroad instead.

 

Further down the rung it still happens too if clubs decide that they're not selling. Just off the top of my head Morgan Gibbs White, Zaha.

 

 

Edited August 7, 2025 by Kid Icarus

[gdm]

4 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

Again a cf was always on the list. When we went for JP why didnt the same sources say JP was a Isak replacement?

Why didnt Romano/Hope say this?

As i said. Its their opinions not fact. The club has never stated their position. 

 

We went for delap, then JP and then Ekitike. At the time of said bids..why didnt the these are isak replacement come out. After all these same sources "knew" isak had decided to leave the club a long time ago. Mate. Look at it logically you can see the change in narrative.

 

Media bs.

 

 

 

Ok mate. I think it’s fanciful to think we are paying £70m on a Wilson replacement. When we still need to buy a centre half & midfielder. 

[Weezertron]

The only decent move we can make at this point in the window is deciding Isak can't move. 

 

Going the other direction is pissing away a generational player and a once in a lifetime transfer fee for a few bang average players. 

 

What a fucking shit 'rebuild' that would be. 

 

The club are a joke if we decide on that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2025 by Weezertron

[WinstonFC]

5 minutes ago, gdm said:

Ok mate. I think it’s fanciful to think we are paying £70m on a Wilson replacement. When we still need to buy a centre half & midfielder. 

We were willing to spend that on Ekitike before Liverpool even mentioned Isak. 

[Infinitely Content]

16 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

They were just two examples to show how far down the line and seemingly irretrievable things can get with players before being turned around.

 

It's not even necessarily about staying. I don't want Isak here, but I'm sickened by us selling him to a supposed domestic rival. The likes of Coutinho, Suarez, Kane, Modric still got their moves away from Liverpool and Spurs, but crucially it was on the club's terms and in Suarez, Kane, and Modric's case, their moves to Arsenal, Man City, and Chelsea were blocked and they went abroad instead.

Yeah I just don't get the feeling this one can be turned around in the way those two were, where their careers continued to flourish at those teams for many years. At best Isak would go through the motions as a professional for 6-12 months, likely exclusively for self-serving reasons.

I certainly am with you in not wanting him here though. I care about the romance and sentimentality of football above all else, both of which are already being dialled down season upon season. Trying to get behind a player like Isak next season will just mean further dampening of feeling and further cause to become apathetic.

I've an 18 year old Vakhtang Salia leading the line for me on Football Manager as proof of this 

 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2025 by Infinitely Content

[tarie4]

1 minute ago, gdm said:

Ok mate. I think it’s fanciful to think we are paying £70m on a Wilson replacement. When we still need to buy a centre half & midfielder. 

You're missing the whole picture, I think. The plan was to buy those players, get Isak to sign with a release clause and a deadline, like Bruno's.

 

That way, we'd be fine. The new strikers could spend the season with Howe, get up to speed, and then replace Isak.

 

Like I told you last night. If Isak was on the market this summer, why didn't we say yes when we bid for Ekitike and Liverpool asked about isak? We could've just gone for Ekitike as a replacement and sold Liverpool Isak. Liverpool only went in for Ekitike when we rejected their enquiring. 

 

Isak threw a fit a few days after we turned down Liverpool. You talk about logic, but you're clearly missing what actually happened, which doesn't fit your view.

 

If Isak was for sale, wouldn't we have Ekitike now, and Liverpool with Isak?

L

Can you explain that to me?

[Paully]

We need clarity on this asap mind. Sick of hearing about him! 
 

For me personally, as much as I love him as a player, he’s disrespected Eddie, his team-mates and our fans so I want rid. He's been on strike to force a move to Liverpool.

 

Get rid, Jackson, Wissa a CH and a CM with what we get for him. 
 

Even if he does stay, he’s not going to start a match until probably September so has totally derailed our season. 
 

Bridges burnt for me.

 

[gdm]

3 minutes ago, WinstonFC said:

We were willing to spend that on Ekitike before Liverpool even mentioned Isak. 

i think he was intended as an Isak replacement. I gave my theory on that last night 

[Weezertron]

The reckon the club definitely knew long before we did that isak wanted to go. 

[gdm]

8 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

You're missing the whole picture, I think. The plan was to buy those players, get Isak to sign with a release clause and a deadline, like Bruno's.

 

That way, we'd be fine. The new strikers could spend the season with Howe, get up to speed, and then replace Isak.

 

Like I told you last night. If Isak was on the market this summer, why didn't we say yes when we bid for Ekitike and Liverpool asked about isak? We could've just gone for Ekitike as a replacement and sold Liverpool Isak. Liverpool only went in for Ekitike when we rejected their enquiring. 

 

Isak threw a fit a few days after we turned down Liverpool. You talk about logic, but you're clearly missing what actually happened, which doesn't fit your view.

 

If Isak was for sale, wouldn't we have Ekitike now, and Liverpool with Isak?

L

Can you explain that to me?

Where are we getting the money to spend £55m on elanga £70m on Šeško and likely another £100m for defender and midfielder. No way we are spending £230m in one window 

 

Logic on Ekitike is we moved for him Liverpool wanted him & Isak it’s that simple. they decided to cut our legs off for Ekitike and are still going after Isak. It’s not gone how we planned but can you imagine the optics if we bowed down to Liverpool and said ok you win take Isak. They would also hold all the cards on price if we allowed that 

 

isak threw a fit way before we turned down Liverpool 
 

 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2025 by gdm

[gdm]

1 minute ago, Weezertron said:

The reckon the club definitely knew long before we did that isak wanted to go. 

This is the key info 

[Stottie]

12 minutes ago, gdm said:

Ok mate. I think it’s fanciful to think we are paying £70m on a Wilson replacement. When we still need to buy a centre half & midfielder. 

Callum Wilson as bought would deffo be 50M plus, likely more than Wissa due to no AFCON. Look at what we paid for Osula. If we want a younger Wilson, the price goes much higher. 

 

[r0cafella]

Just now, Stottie said:

Callum Wilson as bought would deffo be 50M plus, likely more than Wissa due to no AFCON. Look at what we paid for Osula. If we want a younger Wilson, the price goes much higher. 

 

Callum Wilson has a horrible injury record. 

[tarie4]

Just now, gdm said:

Where are we getting the money to spend £55m on elanga £70m on Šeško and likely another £100m for defender and midfielder. No way we are spending £230m in one window 

 

Logic on Ekitike is we moved for him Liverpool wanted him & Isak it’s that simple. they decided to cut our legs off for Ekitike and are still going after Isak

 

isak threw a fit way before we turned down Liverpool 
 

 

Lets let it play and revisit this later on. Have a good one mate 👍 

[gdm]

3 minutes ago, Stottie said:

Callum Wilson as bought would deffo be 50M plus, likely more than Wissa due to no AFCON. Look at what we paid for Osula. If we want a younger Wilson, the price goes much higher. 

 

Callum Wilson as bought was our no 1 striker.  Not really relevant 

[gdm]

3 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

Lets let it play and revisit this later on. Have a good one mate 👍 

Sure, as I say hope I’m wrong