Alexander Isak

[Dr.Spaceman]

Everton are absolutely bollocks and Brentford aren't, I'm not surprised. 

[The College Dropout]

No.. DCL is bad. He gets chances and misses them.

 

His general play isn't even impressive. Lad is not good.

[Sibierski]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

I don’t think people realise how bad DCL is.  They think he’s super injury prone - he’s not. He’s just shit. 43 PL appearances since the start of last Season. 9 goals.  

 

Brentford are too smart to sign DCL.  Signed Wissa,  Toney and Mbeumo for a combined £20m. Wissa and Mbeumo have 7 and 8 goals this season already. 
 

We need to be more like Brentford but with a bigger budget.  

Brentford one of those clubs people will still think in seasons to come are flawless with their transfers, when it’s not been that in recent windows.

 

Flekken £11m

Scahde £22m

Collins £23m

Thiago £30m

F. Carvallho £27.5m

van den Berg £25m

Nunes £10m

 

All I would say haven’t moved the needle for them. How can we get bigger than that here? 
 

Edit: Looking at Brentford further. All their top buys have really been when in Championship. Who have either moved on, going to move on, or into their 30s now and been strong players for them. Still relying on those key players. 
 

And the window before those players I’ve listed, Damsgaard £16m, Kane Lewis-Pottee £16m. We have this run of buys here, club would be in meltdown.

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 21:14 by Sibierski

[BonesJones]

Fuck selling that

[The College Dropout]

9 hours ago, Sibierski said:

Brentford one of those clubs people will still think in seasons to come are flawless with their transfers, when it’s not been that in recent windows.

 

Flekken £11m

Scahde £22m

Collins £23m

Thiago £30m

F. Carvallho £27.5m

van den Berg £25m

Nunes £10m

 

All I would say haven’t moved the needle for them. How can we get bigger than that here? 
 

Edit: Looking at Brentford further. All their top buys have really been when in Championship. Who have either moved on, going to move on, or into their 30s now and been strong players for them. Still relying on those key players. 
 

And the window before those players I’ve listed, Damsgaard £16m, Kane Lewis-Pottee £16m. We have this run of buys here, club would be in meltdown.

 

 

 

Brentford have the third lowest wage bill in the division.  Lower than Leicester and only above the other 2 promoted teams. Their squad cost in fees is 15th. They should be fighting relegation every season. But through transfers and great management they don’t.  

 

A lot of those are good players imo. The terrible GK aside most of them are 24 or under with room to improve.  But look at the macro cost of the squad in fees and wages it’s unarguable that Brentford spend their money wisely.  

[Sibierski]

33 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Brentford have the third lowest wage bill in the division.  Lower than Leicester and only above the other 2 promoted teams. Their squad cost in fees is 15th. They should be fighting relegation every season. But through transfers and great management they don’t.  

 

A lot of those are good players imo. The terrible GK aside most of them are 24 or under with room to improve.  But look at the macro cost of the squad in fees and wages it’s unarguable that Brentford spend their money wisely.  

Spend money wisely on wages, and in their early years good spending on players, but I’d say wages aside, their spending hasn’t been good. Those players may have room to grow because of age, but by large they’re not offering much to them and it’s the players from when in championship still key to them (Pinnock / Henry / Norgaard / Janelt / Mbeumo).

 

They also got rid of their academy for 7 seasons, which will mean playing catch up in future seasons and need to keep spending on squad filler as they lose players.

[TRon]

15 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

I don’t think people realise how bad DCL is.  They think he’s super injury prone - he’s not. He’s just shit. 43 PL appearances since the start of last Season. 9 goals.  

 

Brentford are too smart to sign DCL.  Signed Wissa,  Toney and Mbeumo for a combined £20m. Wissa and Mbeumo have 7 and 8 goals this season already. 
 

We need to be more like Brentford but with a bigger budget.  

 

The rumour was that Howe really rated him, and that was back when he was being quoted at £40m plus. It's not out of the question that at a lower price Howe might think he could do a Chris Wood type job as a target man alternative to Wilson for a relatively low fee.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I’d much rather play Osula than go anywhere near DCL. 
 

Also we shouldn’t discuss him every couple of weeks, it’s dire. My fault as well obvs. 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 12:52 by AyeDubbleYoo

[KaKa]

I don't know how many of you have friends that are Arsenal fans, but my God they are absolutely gagging for this fella 

 

I have been having the time of my life winding them up about it, especially after he scored against them. 

 

They had started convincing themselves he and Newcastle were going to have a bad season and so they'd get him for cheaper.

 

Been an absolute thrill having him come back into form along with us looking so much better of late, while Arsenal have been struggling.

 

They are all legit depressed now 

[Lush Vlad]

Just now, KaKa said:

I don't know how many of you have friends that are Arsenal fans, but my God they are absolutely gagging for this fella 

 

I have been having the time of my life winding them up about it, especially after he scored against them. 

 

They had started convincing themselves he and Newcastle were going to have a bad season and so they'd get him for cheaper.

 

Been an absolute thrill having him come back into form along with us looking so much better of late, while Arsenal have been struggling.

 

They are all legit depressed now 

 

My boss is and we were out on the beers yesterday.  Not sure he appreciated the Mikel Pulis/Artetadyce comments all day  

[mosstef]

6 minutes ago, KaKa said:

I don't know how many of you have friends that are Arsenal fans, but my God they are absolutely gagging for this fella 

 

I have been having the time of my life winding them up about it, especially after he scored against them. 

 

They had started convincing themselves he and Newcastle were going to have a bad season and so they'd get him for cheaper.

 

Been an absolute thrill having him come back into form along with us looking so much better of late, while Arsenal have been struggling.

 

They are all legit depressed now 

 

Always brings a smile to my face when I hear about depressed Arsenal supporters 

[KaKa]

2 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

 

My boss is and we were out on the beers yesterday.  Not sure he appreciated the Mikel Pulis/Artetadyce comments all day  

 

  

 

Fun times man.

 

They were linked with Isak so much prior to us signing him and absolutely bottled it. A lot of them claimed at the time he wasn't good enough, couldn't score in Spain etc.

 

It's so incredibly funny seeing their desperation now.

 

 

 

 

[JEToon]

I don’t think Calvert Lewin would be “cheap” I would expect if he is moving under freedom of contract he would want a very hefty wage and signing on bonus.

[kingxlnc]

They were linked so much with Bruno too. 
Haha. It's good to see they got Gabriel Jesus and Fabio Viera instead

 

 

[The College Dropout]

7 hours ago, Sibierski said:

Spend money wisely on wages, and in their early years good spending on players, but I’d say wages aside, their spending hasn’t been good. Those players may have room to grow because of age, but by large they’re not offering much to them and it’s the players from when in championship still key to them (Pinnock / Henry / Norgaard / Janelt / Mbeumo).

 

They also got rid of their academy for 7 seasons, which will mean playing catch up in future seasons and need to keep spending on squad filler as they lose players.

You can’t say ‘wages aside’. Wages are more important to success than transfer fees. Wages is what attracts players with proven track records of performing at the highest level. Real Madrid’s spend on transfers is not astronomical and behind a number of teams in Europe. But they are #1 in wages.
 

Brentford are spending by PL standards, lowly sums and can only offer bottom level PL wages so the players they sign cannot be of massive repute or have proven track records.  That should make them relegation candidates year in, year out.  As are the other teams paying such low wages.  
 

I use this same metric to judge us. Our squad cost and wages has us 7th/8th. Anything more is an overachievement.  Anything less is an underachievement. 

[Sibierski]

6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

You can’t say ‘wages aside’. Wages are more important to success than transfer fees. Wages is what attracts players with proven track records of performing at the highest level. Real Madrid’s spend on transfers is not astronomical and behind a number of teams in Europe. But they are #1 in wages.
 

Brentford are spending by PL standards, lowly sums and can only offer bottom level PL wages so the players they sign cannot be of massive repute or have proven track records.  That should make them relegation candidates year in, year out.  As are the other teams paying such low wages.  
 

I use this same metric to judge us. Our squad cost and wages has us 7th/8th. Anything more is an overachievement.  Anything less is an underachievement. 

 

Then how can we be more like Brentford but with a bigger budget?

 

Brentford have dropped a load of money on players that haven't really improved them. Wages are low, but money is still spent. What's that for us to aspire too? Hall/Tino are ones of Brentford style in recent years but better and bigger. If it's that, then sure. If not, then I'm confused to what we want to copy from Brentford when their current success is still about maximising the squad from 2018/19. Mbeumo is probably their last decent sellable asset too, after that, it's all their recent buys where they need them to step up to make money since they have no-one youth wise to integrate and sell, and likely a contributor to the lowly wages as more is needed to be spent on signing players for continuous depth.

[The College Dropout]

3 hours ago, Sibierski said:

 

Then how can we be more like Brentford but with a bigger budget?

 

Brentford have dropped a load of money on players that haven't really improved them. Wages are low, but money is still spent. What's that for us to aspire too? Hall/Tino are ones of Brentford style in recent years but better and bigger. If it's that, then sure. If not, then I'm confused to what we want to copy from Brentford when their current success is still about maximising the squad from 2018/19. Mbeumo is probably their last decent sellable asset too, after that, it's all their recent buys where they need them to step up to make money since they have no-one youth wise to integrate and sell, and likely a contributor to the lowly wages as more is needed to be spent on signing players for continuous depth.

By having a squad that consistently finishes multiple places above its wage grade (and its squad cost). Buying players that can improve over time and be worth more than we paid in fee and paying in salary. Being able to sell prized assets and not miss a beat.  If we can finish 2-4 places above our wage bill 4 out of the next 5 years we’ll have done brilliantly. 
 

I can’t emphasise enough how closely the league table mirrors the wage bill table. Most clubs are +- 2-3 spots year on year.  
 

Brentford have the 15th biggest squad spend. Overall they have not spent loads of money relative to the league. That angle is statistically false. 

[Erikse]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

By having a squad that consistently finishes multiple places above its wage grade (and its squad cost). Buying players that can improve over time and be worth more than we paid in fee and paying in salary. Being able to sell prized assets and not miss a beat.  If we can finish 2-4 places above our wage bill 4 out of the next 5 years we’ll have done brilliantly. 
 

I can’t emphasise enough how closely the league table mirrors the wage bill table. Most clubs are +- 2-3 spots year on year.  
 

Brentford have the 15th biggest squad spend. Overall they have not spent loads of money relative to the league. That angle is statistically false. 

 

They did finish 16th last season. They are scoring a lot currently, but only 1 team has conceded more. They may very well end up at around 15th again.

[Rod]

10 hours ago, KaKa said:

I don't know how many of you have friends that are Arsenal fans, but my God they are absolutely gagging for this fella 

 

I have been having the time of my life winding them up about it, especially after he scored against them. 

 

They had started convincing themselves he and Newcastle were going to have a bad season and so they'd get him for cheaper.

 

Been an absolute thrill having him come back into form along with us looking so much better of late, while Arsenal have been struggling.

 

They are all legit depressed now 

I honestly think we will be above Arsenal come the end of the season.

[KaKa]

44 minutes ago, Rod said:

I honestly think we will be above Arsenal come the end of the season.

 

With some luck with injuries it's definitely possible.

 

Love how we've looked since the tweaks tactically.

[TRon]

10 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

With some luck with injuries it's definitely possible.

 

Love how we've looked since the tweaks tactically.

 

 

Agree. Not sure we'll finish above Arsenal, but since the cup win against Chelsea it looks like we've got players in the right positions for how we want to play. For the first time all season I think CL qualification is a possibility.