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Just now, LionOfGosforth said:

 

Well you were rubbish against Wolves, dreadful at Spurs, half decent at Arsenal, utter tripe today. Missed the Forest game and it took a crazy comeback to win it. So how would you describe your games then?

 

So not utterly terrible in all of them? Why did you say that then? 

 

We were awful second half against Spurs. Far from awful first half and should have been ahead. Bruno Fernandes missed a sitter from 6 yards out which completely changes the game if it goes in. We were by far the better side first half. Fell apart in the second. 

 

Arsenal we were a whisker from winning the game and Garnacho was millimetres offside to make it 2-1. Every bit as good as them up until that point. 

 

We conceded twice early to Forest but absolutely battered them. 

 

Brighton's first goal was against the run of play today as well. Rashford hit the bar. And again a centimetre away from it being 1-1 with VAR ruling it out. 

 

Wolves is the only game we were properly dreadful. They should have battered us. 

 

We have been far from good, but nowhere near as bad as people are letting on. Especially with the amount of injuries we've had. 

 

Give it time. 

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7 minutes ago, Nine said:

That does not mean he is fit to play 90 PL minutes at all, hes also a young kid who only just arrived at a huge club in a new country so it could be careful man management as much as it is fitness related. Twisting about that substitution is just looking for an excuse to moan imo.

 

We were told he was fit weeks ago, but that we were giving him more time off to recover. Then he played against Arsenal, then twice more for Denmark. 

 

He was probably our best player. He should have been kept on. 

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1 minute ago, Froggy said:

 

So not utterly terrible in all of them? Why did you say that then? 

 

We were awful second half against Spurs. Far from awful first half and should have been ahead. Bruno Fernandes missed a sitter from 6 yards out which completely changes the game if it goes in. We were by far the better side first half. Fell apart in the second. 

 

Arsenal we were a whisker from winning the game and Garnacho was millimetres offside to make it 2-1. Every bit as good as them up until that point. 

 

We conceded twice early to Forest but absolutely battered them. 

 

Brighton's first goal was against the run of play today as well. Rashford hit the bar. And again a centimetre away from it being 1-1 with VAR ruling it out. 

 

Wolves is the only game we were properly dreadful. They should have battered us. 

 

We have been far from good, but nowhere near as bad as people are letting on. Especially with the amount of injuries we've had. 

 

Give it time. 

 

Because one half decent performance in 4 games is considered ok or good now? For a club with your expectations, it's a terrible effort. And you know fine well bringing Howe into the discussion is completely disingenuous and not based on anything or intended to promote good discussion at all. We're in the very beginning of a slow build towards sustained success and most would know and recognize that.

 

My initial comment was not based on 5 games either, you were quite poor for large swathes of last season too. Beaten comprehensively two seasons running by Brighton at home, we ran you out of town in convincing fashion, conceded 6 at City, 7 at Liverpool (most embarrassing result in living memory).

 

Without microscopically or forensically watching your performances and with a fan's layman eye, I simply and genuinely don't see the basis for optimism around Ten Hag at all.

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9 minutes ago, David Edgar said:

 


I said back when he signed that he only plays well in big games after winning it all for Real. Thought he was surprisingly decent in shit games last year, but he’ll regress to the mean this season and only perform in the big stage if they make it there.

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9 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said:

Because one half decent performance in 4 games is considered ok or good now?

 

Who said that? 

 

10 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said:

you were quite poor for large swathes of last season too

 

Not true. 

 

10 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said:

Beaten comprehensively two seasons running by Brighton at home, we ran you out of town in convincing fashion, conceded 6 at City, 7 at Liverpool (most embarrassing result in living memory).

 

And we played over 60 games, finishing above of three of the four teams you mentioned, beating another in a cup final and winning more silverware than all of them put together except City. 

 

A massive overreaction. 

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1 minute ago, Decky said:

Why are people arguing with Froggy about Man Utd when we're literally playing right now? :lol: He'll be having a right laugh if we lose this. 

 

I couldn't care less about Newcastle. :lol:

 

Need to come to terms with our own shit show before worrying about anyone else. 

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Just now, Froggy said:

 

Who said that? 

 

 

Not true. 

 

 

And we played over 60 games, finishing above of three of the four teams you mentioned, beating another in a cup final and winning more silverware than all of them put together except City. 

 

A massive overreaction. 

 

Me. Based on having good eyesight.

 

Very true and easily arguable all day long.

 

Fair point.

 

I don't think it's an overreaction at all but time will tell. Think he's a genuinely bad manager and poor fit.

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Have to say, I wasn't expecting much of Jhon Duran as a 19 year old (him, not me, obvs) but 3 goals already this season, in about 2 hours of football, and a belter today.

 

Very raw but I am starting to see why we paid 19m for him.

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13 minutes ago, Decky said:

Can we all just agree Man Utd are shite and Ten Haag is overrated and Hojlund is a waste of money?

 

Hojlund is going to be unreal to be fair. Very clear to see. He'll be fantastic for Real Madrid. 

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3 hours ago, TaylorJ_01 said:

Onana yet another player who's form has plummeted since moving to Man Utd. He looks quite hopeless.


Woah woah woah he’s class at passing and standing outside his box which as we know are the key skills required for being a PL keeper.

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