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1 hour ago, leffe186 said:


If the country is the UK then naah, Celtic-Rangers. In terms of deep-seated local intertwined enmity in England - maybe. Birmingham-Villa is pretty nasty but Villa have so often been literally in a different league. Bristol Rovers-City used to be a bit tasty IIRC, but again, at a lower level. Everton-Liverpool never seemed to have quite the same edge. Newcastle-Sunderland has the edge but the communities are less intertwined and they’re often at different levels. Likewise Millwall-Chelsea. Feel like I’m forgetting someone. Sheffield derby is fun. Feels like the South Yorkshire Police don’t know who to beat up, unlike when anybody else came to town.

I got punched in the mouth by one of South Yorkshire’s finest back in the day when we were both in the old second division. Tried to get his badge number, but apparently they used to swap them around on match says. 

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3 minutes ago, The Bonk said:

The North London Derby was amazing when Adebayour and Sol Campbell crossed enemy lines. Proper spicy back then. [emoji38]

 

Doubt we’ll ever see anything like that again.


I’ve never considered the North London derby spicy. [emoji38] definitely think it’s one of the better ones in terms of quality, usually guarantees goals at either end and they’re generally cracking games. 
 

but in terms of hatred/spicyness I wouldn’t put it up there with us and Sunderland, midlands derby etc. just a load of tories in the crowd chanting “Arsen-aww” or “come on you spurssss” with the occasional wanker sign chucked in. 

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1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said:


I’ve never considered the North London derby spicy. [emoji38] definitely think it’s one of the better ones in terms of quality, usually guarantees goals at either end and they’re generally cracking games. 
 

but in terms of hatred/spicyness I wouldn’t put it up there with us and Sunderland, midlands derby etc. just a load of tories in the crowd chanting “Arsen-aww” or “come on you spurssss” with the occasional wanker sign chucked in. 


Campbell was labeled “Judas” and got death threats, hatred to this day. It’s obviously fizzled since then, but there was nastiness from both sets of supporters.

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2 minutes ago, The Bonk said:


Campbell was labeled “Judas” and got death threats, hatred to this day. It’s obviously fizzled since then, but there was nastiness from both sets of supporters.


None of them carried out the death threats though so they’re all talk imo. 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:


I’ve never considered the North London derby spicy. [emoji38] definitely think it’s one of the better ones in terms of quality, usually guarantees goals at either end and they’re generally cracking games. 
 

but in terms of hatred/spicyness I wouldn’t put it up there with us and Sunderland, midlands derby etc. just a load of tories in the crowd chanting “Arsen-aww” or “come on you spurssss” with the occasional wanker sign chucked in. 


I mean, I grew up with it here, from the late 70s. Choosing my words carefully…I think you’re wrong. For a lot of reasons - but firstly, it’s very much not just about what happens in the ground, and even on the day. 
 

We all live together, intermingled, from day one. My school was 35% Spurs, 35% Arsenal, 25% glory-hunting cunts (Liverpool) and 5% other. At the time probably more Spurs but over time it probably changed. I don’t know where you grew up but if it was in or around Newcastle I’m guessing it wasn’t quite the same.

 

That leads to two things. One, we each have a little bit more understanding of the other. We basically live the same lives, families are mixed etc. But also two - it’s every fucking day. At school, at work, at play etc etc. Familiarity truly does breed contempt.

 

When I was a kid it was truly, truly nasty - in the ground, around the ground, everywhere. We’ve all seen a lot of people priced out of the game since Hillsborough…but we’re all still here. Just not necessarily sitting in a plastic seat singing “Guantanamera”.

 

It’s nasty and spicy. And the closer we are in standard the nastier and spicier it will get. You just might not see it on the Sky cameras.

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Looking forward to this game, easily the most entertaining derby, the games tend to always be really good, especially from a neutral point of view*

 

Despite the good start from Spurs I can't look past an Arsenal win, at home their record against Spurs is excellent 

 

*watch it be a 0-0 borefest after I've said this

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1 minute ago, leffe186 said:


I mean, I grew up with it here, from the late 70s. Choosing my words carefully…I think you’re wrong. For a lot of reasons - but firstly, it’s very much not just about what happens in the ground, and even on the day. 
 

We all live together, intermingled, from day one. My school was 35% Spurs, 35% Arsenal, 25% glory-hunting cunts (Liverpool) and 5% other. At the time probably more Spurs but over time it probably changed. I don’t know where you grew up but if it was in or around Newcastle I’m guessing it wasn’t quite the same.

 

That leads to two things. One, we each have a little bit more understanding of the other. We basically live the same lives, families are mixed etc. But also two - it’s every fucking day. At school, at work, at play etc etc. Familiarity truly does breed contempt.

 

When I was a kid it was truly, truly nasty - in the ground, around the ground, everywhere. We’ve all seen a lot of people priced out of the game since Hillsborough…but we’re all still here. Just not necessarily sitting in a plastic seat singing “Guantanamera”.

 

It’s nasty and spicy. And the closer we are in standard the nastier and spicier it will get. You just might not see it on the Sky cameras.


Only read the first paragraph so fair play if I’ve got it massively wrong. 

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