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11 hours ago, The Bonk said:

 

They lack identity, both as a club and fanbase. In the community that is English football, they're mostly irrelevant. 

 

On the surface, it appeared Viera was trying to build that, but ultimately it seemed to fizzle out as the fans didn't really rally around him. Since Howe has come here, he's galvanized the fanbase, players and boardroom. That's a huge part of our turnaround, the culture he's tried to instil from day 1. 

 

I agree with you, my statement was a bit silly, but the quality that keeps Palace in the league is mostly from their academy and catchment. Good on them for developing that player pipeline, but they've never really done anything of note with it. 

That’s a bit of a contradiction. 
 

The identity of the club is based on the catchment area (that is fairly unique in comparison to the whole of England) and their youth products.

 

Their identity is so strong that players that aren’t even from the youth ranks or the catchment area like Eze or Olise are considered typical Palace players. And they field more players from the wider area than any PL club. Not to mention  a lot of the football management people of the club are supporters, played for the club or from the area. 
 

Their limiting factor is that they are probably too London-centric and insular.  Southgate will be their next manager. It will be boring to watch.  They will have their usual mix of exciting young talent from London and experienced PL players.  
 

It will be more boring than it should be.  But to say Crystal Palace lack identity or are highly mismanaged - is just not true. You couldn’t name 20 better run clubs in England. 

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14 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

That’s a bit of a contradiction. 
 

The identity of the club is based on the catchment area (that is fairly unique in comparison to the whole of England) and their youth products.

 

Their identity is so strong that players that aren’t even from the youth ranks or the catchment area like Eze or Olise are considered typical Palace players. And they field more players from the wider area than any PL club. Not to mention  a lot of the football management people of the club are supporters, played for the club or from the area. 
 

Their limiting factor is that they are probably too London-centric and insular.  Southgate will be their next manager. It will be boring to watch.  They will have their usual mix of exciting young talent from London and experienced PL players.  
 

It will be more boring than it should be.  But to say Crystal Palace lack identity or are highly mismanaged - is just not true. You couldn’t name 20 better run clubs in England. 

 

Potter would have been class for them, but the whole Brighton rivalry thing may have been a factor.

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18 minutes ago, Astroblack said:

Palmer’s gonna sneak into the England squad ahead of Gordon. Can just see it happening. 

 

That would be crazy.

 

Gordon's performances and output have been Very good, and he gives the work rate Southgate values.

 

Be shocked if Gordon isn't in for the next round of games.

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3 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Potter would have been class for them, but the whole Brighton rivalry thing may have been a factor.


Potter would be a good fit for WHU. Always rumours of Moyes being out the door at West Ham. West Ham should be a lot better than they are given the attacking talent they have and I think Potter would unlock that. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Potter would have been class for them, but the whole Brighton rivalry thing may have been a factor.

Even that would be a lot of evolution for them. All of their semi successful managers have been super ‘pragmatic’ and a bit old school in approach. Holloway, Pulis, Pardew, Vieira, Hodgson.  Potter’s style of play would be very different for the club and its fans to handle if it isn’t successful from the jump.  They can be low scoring without the aimless passing in the back line.  

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