AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 The way they’ve explained VAR seems completely wrong. I had no idea how much the VAR official guides the on-field ref in situation like that Trossard goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Just now, Miggys First Goal said: Watching this, I'm wondering why they can't automatically turn on this audio when they're looking at decisions in-game. Let the fans hear this so they know what's going on. Because it's going to open another can of worms. I can't believe people are being this over it naive tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Utter ridiculous justifying that pen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 So what that highlights there is that the referee gives a dozen final warnings constantly throughout the process and doesn’t book anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, duo said: Re-referring - where do you draw the line I almost think they should just say that the ref and VAR work as a team constantly, and the ref can ask for a check of anything. Or be advised of a mistake by the VAR. If they did that, combined with clear communication to the fans on TV and in the stadium, it might be a more acceptable system. Edited May 15, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Because it's going to open another can of worms. I can't believe people are being this over it naive tbh. What’s naive about it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Webb is a typical copper like. Assertive and sounds officious, respected and trustworthy, but it's all a fascade for being absolutely full of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 The lack of a crowd noise from the referee’s mic as well as only a faint audio of the others players at best makes me believe this audio is created at a later date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Just now, Stifler said: The lack of a crowd noise from the referee’s mic as well as only a faint audio of the others players at best makes me believe this audio is created at a later date. Think you may have lost it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: What’s naive about it? On 22/03/2023 at 10:41, Kid Icarus said: Edited to get to the point So we get the refs mic'd up. The idea being that at least we get a layer of transparency and know what's going on. You don't think that, just like with VAR and the issues above, there are unintended consequences that could maybe make our curiosity being immediately satisfied not worth it as a benefit? 1) when they fuck up, we get to listen to them fucking up in real time. We get to hear them misunderstand and incorrectly apply the rules. We get to hear them being indecisive and unsure, we get to hear them confidently assert that the black that we can see with our own eyes is actually white - even more maddening. 2) nothing actually changes, so we're all sat there like Matthew McConaughey screaming through the bookcase in Interstellar when they fuck up. 3) referees and the VAR will know that for every big call they make, there'll be an expectation for them to get on the mic and communicate it with millions of people listening into their conversation in real time. Consciously or unconsciously, that will impact upon the referee's and the VAR's courage to make those big calls. Who's going to stand up and make the big call, then get on the mic knowing that them not just looking stupid, but sounding stupid might become a meme? - again leading to more non decisions that should be made. 4) An additional arbitrary layer of what constitutes a decision that should be communicated over the mics And probably other consequences that we haven't even considered. And for what? So that we know what the rationale behind a decision is in real time rather than later? Something that we've never explicitly known in cases like that anyway. Total waste of time imo and opens another can of worms. It's like we learned nothing from begging for VAR to come in. At least with VAR you can argue the case for the worth of the net benefit we get from it. With this the net benefit of immediately knowing the rationale behind a decision is barely worth it for all the additional problems it would cause. Edited May 15, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 They should release the footage with Klopp and the 4th official from the spurs game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Stifler said: The lack of a crowd noise from the referee’s mic as well as only a faint audio of the others players at best makes me believe this audio is created at a later date. Up there with Roswell and JFK assassination conspiracy theories this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 It's a total PR exercise - Jamie and Gary are giving him a far too easy ride. Been some shocking calls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Stadiums in the Premier League where the minimum attendance is 10k, and you can’t hear anyone in the crowd during a VAR check, aye right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 FIFA in corruption shock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Just now, duo said: It's a total PR exercise - Jamie and Gary are giving him a far too easy ride. Been some shocking calls. That’s because it’s all rehearsed earlier in the day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 minute ago, duo said: It's a total PR exercise - Jamie and Gary are giving him a far too easy ride. Been some shocking calls. Doesn’t sound like it worked very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Just now, Stifler said: Stadiums in the Premier League where the minimum attendance is 10k, and you can’t hear anyone in the crowd during a VAR check, aye right. It's just you not understanding how cardioid microphones work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Stifler said: Stadiums in the Premier League where the minimum attendance is 10k, and you can’t hear anyone in the crowd during a VAR check, aye right. Some mics are good at cutting out background noise though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Miggys First Goal said: Up there with Roswell and JFK assassination conspiracy theories this. Plenty of people believe those theories because in the Roswell one, they first said it was crashed UFO. In the 2nd the details relating to the Zapruda film, and how the magic bullet didn’t change direction is not publicised as much as they should be. People fill in the blanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Wish they’d had VAR for the JFK assassination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Wish they’d had VAR for the JFK assassination. Zapruda film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Very strong Leicester lineup on paper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 I have zero faith in Leicester. I’d trust Southampton more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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