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Just now, Sempiternal said:


You must  have been absolutely garbage in the air then, if you think that’s unnatural. His arm has to go somewhere. It’s not technically right at all. 

 

I actually was useless in the air to be fair. :lol:

 

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It's a pen.

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3 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

He means the Fred one on De Bruyne. It was a stonewall pen. 

 

Might be the one I was thinking of. Not sure as BBC haven't even been arsed enough to show it. 

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Just now, Beren said:

The rule is wrong, but by the rule it is a pen IMO.

Are you sure ? The bit about the unnatural position comes in and you could say his arm is in a natural position for jumping.

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Just now, Froggy said:

 

I actually was useless in the air to be fair. :lol:

 

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It's a pen.

LMAO. A screenshot with out any of the prior movement? Where he’s not even looking at the ball? Stonewall. Grealish a magician for magically adjusting the natural inclination of his arm 

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6 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

I actually was useless in the air to be fair. :lol:

 

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It's a pen.

 

I still don't think that qualifies as a pen with the supposed high bar on VAR intervention though. Referee saw it, hand is in quite natural position, it comes from a yard away and there were only defenders and a keeper in the vicinity where the ball was headed.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Froggy said:

Staggering amount of people don't know the penalty rules like. Grealish's hand was above his head in an unnatural position, and it changed the direction of the ball in an attacking movement. It's as black and white as you can get for a VAR check. Clear pen. 

 

Casemiro quite lucky. 

 

Stonewall pen on De Bruyne. Awful decision. 

 

Spectacular dive from Grealish to get AWB booked. 

 

His arm isn't in an unnatural position for a player post-jump.

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Just now, Froggy said:

Micah Richards saying not a red by Casemiro either and he's as biased as they come. 

 

Personally think he's lucky, but could be seen as harsh if he walked. 

Made me think of the Bruno one against Leicester, I held my breath over that, that night if I’m a Leicesters fan I’m raging same today if I’m a Man C fan I’m calling for a red all day long… think he was a lucky guy today 

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The problem is, how do you make a rule which doesn't allow players to purposely put their arm in the area where the ball can come, but doing it in a way so that it's difficult to decide whether it's deliberate or not? Without punishing some unlucky ones like this one.. They need a rule which can help them to be consistent aswell. Not easy.

 

 

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Grealish has his eyes closed almost the whole time, us jumping and turning, his arm is exactly where momentum takes it. He’s almost on top on the player. It’s a bad a decision as the one we got in the last minute at Spurs some years ago. You can’t be giving that as a penalty.

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1 minute ago, Erikse said:

The problem is, how do you make a rule which doesn't allow players to purposely put their arm in the area where the ball can come, but doing it in a way so that it's difficult to decide whether it's deliberate or not? Without punishing some unlucky ones like this one.. They need a rule that will help them be consistent aswell.

 

Lineker said it will be simplified whatever that means. 

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Just now, The Prophet said:

 

His arm isn't in an unnatural position for a player post-jump.

I swear do people who think that’s a pen, can they actually jump? You literally can’t make minute adjustments to your arm in the air to make it unnatural. I’ll pay someone 10k if they can prove what a natural position for his arm would be.

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1 minute ago, Erikse said:

The problem is, how do you make a rule which doesn't allow players to purposely put their arm in the area where the ball can come, but doing it in a way so that it's difficult to decide whether it's deliberate or not? Without punishing some unlucky ones like this one.. They need a rule which can help them to be consistent aswell. Not easy.

 

 

 

The literal ‘leap like a salmon’ - appendages pinned to your side.

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9 minutes ago, Froggy said:

Staggering amount of people don't know the penalty rules like. Grealish's hand was above his head in an unnatural position, and it changed the direction of the ball in an attacking movement. It's as black and white as you can get for a VAR check. Clear pen. 

 

Casemiro quite lucky. 

 

Stonewall pen on De Bruyne. Awful decision. 

 

Spectacular dive from Grealish to get AWB booked. 

Not to swim against the tide or anything, but re Casemiro. I think that's the definition of an orange card.

 

Should have been a yellow at least, but VAR can't intervene with yellows. And unless it was a clear straight red then, again, I don't think VAR can do much even if it's clear the ref couldn't have seen it properly.

 

Hang on, have I just become Peter Walton? Fuck my life. 

 

In that case, personally, I'd have given him two yellows and sent him off anyway - one for the foul, and the other for the playacting straight after. Phew.

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