black_n_white Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Just now, Miggys First Goal said: Think we’d absolutely boss the Conference League. If we are good enough to get into it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 4 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said: Crystal Palace 2 up v Fiorentina in a European QF and it’s not surprising, what a time to be alive My recent knowledge of Italian football isnt what it was. Haven't Fiotwntina been poor for a number of years and last season was a flash in the pan ? Also I'd expect most English middle table clubs to do Italian counterparts these days. Thats TV money for ya. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 4 minutes ago, madras said: My recent knowledge of Italian football isnt what it was. Haven't Fiotwntina been poor for a number of years and last season was a flash in the pan ? Also I'd expect most English middle table clubs to do Italian counterparts these days. Thats TV money for ya. Don’t really know tbh but I’d just think of them as a bigger club than Palace. But that’s what I mean about it not being surprising though. They’ve finished in the top 8 the last four seasons and been in the final of this 2 of the 4 times, semi last year as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 8 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: Think we’d absolutely boss the Conference League. Literally any PL club would be disgracing themselves by not winning it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 How on God's green earth is Bednarek only 29? I thought he was 32 about 5 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Forest game interesting here. Keeper went down, took a very slight knee to the back of his head and he’s made a meal of it. Ref has disallowed the goal and VAR disallowing it also. Keeper soft as shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 45 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: Think we’d absolutely boss the Conference League. The Papa Johns of Europe. Bet the club would charge us 50 bar a game too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I see Mainz are currently beating Strasbourg 2-0. Assumed the latter were one of the sides with any likelihood of stopping Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I see Mainz are currently beating Strasbourg 2-0. Assumed the latter were one of the sides with any likelihood of stopping Palace. Mainz have rocketed up the Fraudesliga since they changed manager 3-4 months back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Freiburg botting Vigo senseless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curva Sud Milano Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 50 minutes ago, madras said: My recent knowledge of Italian football isnt what it was. Haven't Fiotwntina been poor for a number of years and last season was a flash in the pan ? Also I'd expect most English middle table clubs to do Italian counterparts these days. Thats TV money for ya. Last year AC Milan earned €70m (€87m two years ago) from TV rights... I don't know the situation in the PL but I think each of your teams earns more, much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 20 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Watching the highlights there and I just can't help but find the decisions after 2-0 jarring like. Just seen far too much shenanigans to not have a conspirators mind. The second leg is going to be absolutely fucking shameless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 11 minutes ago, Curva Sud Milano said: Last year AC Milan earned €70m (€87m two years ago) from TV rights... I don't know the situation in the PL but I think each of your teams earns more, much more. Minimum payment from the Premier League works out at atleast €111m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 These Europa results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 6 minutes ago, Curva Sud Milano said: Last year AC Milan earned €70m (€87m two years ago) from TV rights... I don't know the situation in the PL but I think each of your teams earns more, much more. The distribution is broadly similar to Serie A, only with a vastly higher baseline. So when you got €87M (the second highest), Inter got €101M and the lowest amount was Frosinone at €31.3M. In contrast, last year Liverpool got about £175M while the smallest amount was Southampton with £109M. If you ignore the currency it’s a similar difference of about 70M, but with that huge baseline increase. Thus from another point of view, Inter got more than 3x as much as the smallest clubs, while Liverpool were a long way off getting even twice the amount Southampton did. The division in England is more equitable. I understand last year Italy used the following formula: 1. 50% of the total is divided equally among the 20 clubs (about €26.8 million each). 2. 22% is allocated based on social rooting, which takes into account average TV audience, stadium attendance (certified by SIAE), and minutes played by young players. 3. The remaining 28% is distributed according to sporting merit, which includes historical results, performance over the last five seasons, final league position, and points in the most recent season. If you’re rewarding a club like Inter with an extra €74M for “social rooting” and “sporting merit” compared to less than €5M for teams like Salernitana and Frosinone then that’s a significant difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 7 minutes ago, Yorkie said: These Europa results. It‘s faintly ironic that the Premier Lesgue has broken the Europa and Conference by actually doing the right thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Thankfully Strasbourg look they'll be going out the Conference. If they win it and Chelsea finished 9th in the PL, UEFA would likely allow Strasbourg to give Chelsea their Europa League place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curva Sud Milano Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 47 minutes ago, leffe186 said: The distribution is broadly similar to Serie A, only with a vastly higher baseline. So when you got €87M (the second highest), Inter got €101M and the lowest amount was Frosinone at €31.3M. In contrast, last year Liverpool got about £175M while the smallest amount was Southampton with £109M. If you ignore the currency it’s a similar difference of about 70M, but with that huge baseline increase. Thus from another point of view, Inter got more than 3x as much as the smallest clubs, while Liverpool were a long way off getting even twice the amount Southampton did. The division in England is more equitable. I understand last year Italy used the following formula: If you’re rewarding a club like Inter with an extra €74M for “social rooting” and “sporting merit” compared to less than €5M for teams like Salernitana and Frosinone then that’s a significant difference. Yep,your distribution is certainly fairer. I was referring to the huge gap between the various leagues.... it's normal and right that the PL has higher TV rights but seeing teams like Southampton earn much more than us is shocking (based on the fact that I imagine there are very few fans outside the city of Southampton, while AC Milan has millions of fans all over the world). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Obscene Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, Disco said: Freiburg botting Vigo senseless. we’ve been linked with one of their players and apparently he’s had a really good game today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 31 minutes ago, Curva Sud Milano said: Yep,your distribution is certainly fairer. I was referring to the huge gap between the various leagues.... it's normal and right that the PL has higher TV rights but seeing teams like Southampton earn much more than us is shocking (based on the fact that I imagine there are very few fans outside the city of Southampton, while AC Milan has millions of fans all over the world). There’s a couple of points there I guess. On a purely local level Southampton actually has a decent catchment area, and they typically get around 30K fans for home matches in our second division. In contrast only 7 Serie A sides have averaged over 28K this season with sides like Fiorentina, Atalanta and Parma falling way short which really surprised me. Do they have stadium issues? The Premier League has made a conscious choice to level the playing field a bit in this regard, certainly relative to, say, La Liga. We get frustrated with parity issues here but I’d much rather this than the Spanish system which is nominally similar to yours but results in Barca, Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid getting vastly more money than others. The Premier League has always been popular but has really built on that and you could argue that allocating more money to lower clubs has kept it more exciting - which might bolster its popularity. It’s not a mystery why Spain and Italy have lagged behind here, but I do think it’s a mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 12 minutes ago, Rafalove said: Obscene Incredible goal. For me one which doesn't get spoken about enough is Valentino Lazaro's for Monchengladbach - I don't know if it's just because it was in covid times, because it's easily the most sensational scorpion kick I've ever seen. The way the ball spins off his heel is legit a thing of beauty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 18 minutes ago, Infinitely Content said: Incredible goal. For me one which doesn't get spoken about enough is Valentino Lazaro's for Monchengladbach - I don't know if it's just because it was in covid times, because it's easily the most sensational scorpion kick I've ever seen. The way the ball spins off his heel is legit a thing of beauty. That is orgasmic, a criminally overlooked goal. But yeah, the fact that it was a covid game and ultimately a consolation goal will bury it in the history books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 2 hours ago, Fak said: How on God's green earth is Bednarek only 29? I thought he was 32 about 5 years ago. Most people think he looks about 30. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, Rafalove said: Obscene he the massive lad who was at Southampton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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