Kanji Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 That song was a bit too randomly trippy for a class compilation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Hadn’t seen that compilation before; fantastic. He was a little bit before my time a his peak (remember him going to Cosmos). He had everything, Messi & Ronaldo combined and just better than Maradona was (that’s saying something). Strong, tricky, pace, good in the air and amazing resilience. He’d have been unplayable in today game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 The problem with Pele is we dont have enough video of him playing and showcasing his skill. So, now we have some kid spouting garbage like CRonaldo/Messi or even Maradona as the better player than Pele. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 On 03/12/2022 at 14:56, oldtype said: Ali is probably on that tier as well. Was only thinking about team sports. Remains to be seen if Messi and Ronaldo stand the test of time in the public conscience. If someone told me when I was a kid that fat Ronaldo wouldn’t even be the most famous footballer named Ronaldo in twenty years, I wouldn’t have believed them. Those two are on another tier in terms of achievements, obviously, but there’s also a lot of recency bias. I highly doubt Messi and Ronaldo will be that highly regarded unless they win the world cup and play an important role in that. A good majority of football watchers don't care about club football or champions league. You have to deliver at a world cup to reach that all time great pedestal. I am not saying that is correct but that is the way it is for a decent majority. If Messi or Ronaldo do not win this world cup and do not score an iconic or important goal, forget Pele and Maradona, I feel they will be below Zidane in the global public conscience as time passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 hours ago, rgk_lfc said: I highly doubt Messi and Ronaldo will be that highly regarded unless they win the world cup and play an important role in that. A good majority of football watchers don't care about club football or champions league. You have to deliver at a world cup to reach that all time great pedestal. I am not saying that is correct but that is the way it is for a decent majority. If Messi or Ronaldo do not win this world cup and do not score an iconic or important goal, forget Pele and Maradona, I feel they will be below Zidane in the global public conscience as time passes. Not sure I agree with this at all. Kids these days are absolutely obsessed with Messi and Ronaldo. More so than international football and world cup trophies. They're the ones who carry the legacy on. Do kids these days really even know who Zidane is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 His daughter is denying he's on palliative care. Hoping the tabloids have got it wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 It seems that every world cup that comes around, Pele just has to somehow make it about him, eh. Selfish. <goes to hell, goes directly to hell, does not pass go> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Shearergol said: Not sure I agree with this at all. Kids these days are absolutely obsessed with Messi and Ronaldo. More so than international football and world cup trophies. They're the ones who carry the legacy on. Do kids these days really even know who Zidane is? Kids who follow club football, absolutely. But there is a huge contingent of folks in places like Asia who rarely watch club football but watch world cup football religiously. For whom, unless you deliver on the international stage, it is nothing. You go to the villages in India they know Pele and Maradona. They have no clue about Pele's and Maradona's achievements for Santos, the 1000 goals he scored, and Napoli. But they do know about Mexico 86 and Pele's achievements in the world cup. There is a romance associated with Pele's and Maradona's story which is missing from the Messi and CRonaldo narrative. By the way, it is not just with football. If you go to India's heartlands and talk to the regular folks, Dhoni is rated higher as a cricketer for his 92 not out in the world cup final than the 50000 runs which Kohli and Tendulkar have scored due to the impact. Of course, you wouldn't get that impression from India's social media or media outlets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 On 04/12/2022 at 11:23, huss9 said: really is a must watch. cruyff turns, ronaldo chops, knuckleballs, rabonas, bicycle kicks... the only thing he could never master was the Lauren Robert overhead backheel. Didn’t see the Roeder shuffle never mind the Beardsley shuffle ? Great montage ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, LFEE said: Didn’t see the Roeder shuffle never mind the Beardsley shuffle ? Great montage ?? Made in St James’ (ish). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Grim. Thought they said he was fine the other day... Gotta be an extra reason for Brazil to be pumped for this world cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cubaricho Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I had no idea he had only played for two clubs in his whole career. That’s amazing. I wish more modern players were like that instead of chasing trophies. But I guess the game is just different now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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