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3 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Can you imagine how smug Ange will be

He's a massive reason why I can't stand Spurs at the moment. Used to be fairly ambivalent towards them but fuck me, between him and that complete cunt "Madders", I'm all in on the hater train

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I think we’ll need a result either at Anfield, Emirates, Amex and Villa Park. 
 

I think we need a couple draws at least.  Last year we got 3 points from those iiirc?
 

And that’s assuming we beat Wham away and deal with everyone at home which hasn’t been the case this season. 

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16 minutes ago, SiLvOR said:

He's a massive reason why I can't stand Spurs at the moment. Used to be fairly ambivalent towards them but fuck me, between him and that complete cunt "Madders", I'm all in on the hater train

I’ve not got much against Ange - I just think he’s a bit fraudulent. The ‘I usually win a trophy in second season’ is ballsy.  They’ve been so bad that idea should be dead in the water. 
 

Same with Man U.  They shouldn’t be able to win any trophies this season. I think Fulham will do them in the FA Cup. It’s the Europa I think they might win.  

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You have good fixtures. Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City first 3 places. 

 

Then, i watched the fixtures and for me:

 

Newcastle: 67 points

Forest: 63

Chelsea: 62

Villa: 60

Bournemouth: 58

Brighton: 56

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12 minutes ago, jigen said:

You have good fixtures. Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City first 3 places. 

 

Then, i watched the fixtures and for me:

 

Newcastle: 67 points

Forest: 63

Chelsea: 62

Villa: 60

Bournemouth: 58

Brighton: 56

How many points if we had signed Cherki?

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23 minutes ago, jigen said:

You have good fixtures. Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City first 3 places. 

 

Then, i watched the fixtures and for me:

 

Newcastle: 67 points

Forest: 63

Chelsea: 62

Villa: 60

Bournemouth: 58

Brighton: 56

 

I know they've lost their last two, but I'd be stunned if Bournemouth finished nine points behind us come season's end.

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My prediction:

 

Liverpool away: Lost
West ham away: Draw
Brentford home: Win
Leicester away: Win
Man Utd home: Win
Palace home: Win
Villa away: Lost
Ipswich home: Win
Brighton away: Draw
Chelsea home: Win
Arsenal away: Lost
Everton home: Win

 

Tot. 67 points. 

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Just done a predictor for all the results and despite thinking all season (and pre-season) we woudn't get CL, we do, by a point from Chelsea, 2points from Brighton and 3points from Forest. 63points. Nice outcome but dreading the anxiety of that.

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4 hours ago, madras said:

I'm not so sure, yeah we are capable of beating Spurs, Arsenal and Man Utd in successive aways but can also turn in the Man City aways, Bournemouth and Fulhams at home.

 

It's getting close to looking at other clubs remaining fixtures time.

Top 8 will more than likely mean Europe. Very confident to can manage that 

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2 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

England will get 5 CL spots next season.

How many Europa and the other one ? and do we get one for the FA Cup and if the winner of that is in the champs league where does that place go to etc.

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1 minute ago, madras said:

How many Europa and the other one ? and do we get one for the FA Cup and if the winner of that is in the champs league where does that place go to etc.

 

5 CL, 2 EL and 1 ECL. No idea how the cups affect EL/ECL.

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3 minutes ago, madras said:

How many Europa and the other one ? and do we get one for the FA Cup and if the winner of that is in the champs league where does that place go to etc.

 

Oh, and an English club winning one of the European compeitions doesn't subtract a spot from the English league spots. There's dedicated "Defending Champion/Champion of the League Below" spots for CL/EL/ECL winners now.

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2 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

5 CL, 2 EL and 1 ECL. No idea how the cups affect EL/ECL.

I thought, could be wrong and can't be arsed to check, that the FA Cup got an EL place but if it's winners we're in CL it reverted to the next league placing. 

 

Don't the EL winners get a CL place as well ?

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Funnily enough this was posted on bbc

 

Who gets in Europe?published at 18:27 Greenwich Mean Time

18:27 GMT

There will be at least seven English teams playing in Europe next season, although that figure could rise to 11. However, that latter scenario is unlikely and would require Premier League sides winning every European competition in 2024-25 with certain teams finishing outside the top five.

Normally the top four go into the Champions League, with the fifth-placed side going into the Europa League. However, the Premier League is currently on course to earn one of two extra Champions League spots, meaning a top-five finish would be enough.

But if English sides win both the Champions League and Europa League (and they do not finish in the top five) that could mean seven Premier League teams would be in Europe's top club competition.

In normal circumstances, two English sides will be in the Europa League, but that will rise to three if Chelsea win the Conference League (and finish outside the top five), with another team from England then going into the Conference League.

So, for arguments sake, let's say no English team wins a European competition, but the Premier League gets an additional Champions League spot.

Then, as it stands, this is who would be playing in Europe next season.

Champions League: 1. Liverpool, 2. Arsenal, 3. Nottingham Forest, 4. Chelsea, 5. Manchester City.

Europa League: 6. Newcastle, 7. Bournemouth.

Conference League: 8. Brighton.

(If a team from outside the top seven wins the FA Cup, they would go into the Europa League, Bournemouth would drop into the Conference League with Brighton missing out).

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I think it's starting to be fair to assume that Man City will get top 5 at this point? They've purely been losing to top teams since that loss vs Villa back in december (they've played 16 games since). Only draw in 2025 was away to Brentford, and the rest are wins.

 

They still can't deal with the heavy hitters, but they take enough points against the rest.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Erikse said:

I think it's starting to be fair to assume that Man City will get top 5 at this point? They've purely been losing to top teams since that loss vs Villa back in december (they've played 16 games since). Only draw in 2025 was away to Brentford, and the rest are wins.

 

They still can't deal with the heavy hitters, but they take enough points against the rest.

 

 

 

 

They were always going to get top 5.

 

Liverpool, Arsenal and City are nailed on for top 5. Everything else is up for grabs.

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Loss against Liverpool was to be expected, we can still manage CL but we need to turn our performances around. Fortunately we have a break in PL games, and I'm hoping botman and Isak will be back next pl game.

 

I reckon we can get 5th if we:

 

Lose to Arsenal away - the hard game

 

Get 2 wins and 2 losses out of Vila away, Everton at home, West ham away, and Brighton away - the games we have historically struggled with but are by no means unwinnable.

 

Get draws from Chelsea at home, and Manu at home - games we could very well win but I don't feel comfortable enough calling. 

 

Beat Leicester away, Palace at home, Ipswich at home, and Brentford at home - games we should really in theory win.

 

I think that's the most realistic course of events I can see and would land us on 64 points which I'm hoping would be enough for 5th but the issue is were so inconsistent.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, t00nt00n313 said:

Loss against Liverpool was to be expected, we can still manage CL but we need to turn our performances around. Fortunately we have a break in PL games, and I'm hoping botman and Isak will be back next pl game.

 

I reckon we can get 5th if we:

 

Lose to Arsenal away - the hard game

 

Get 2 wins and 2 losses out of Vila away, Everton at home, West ham away, and Brighton away - the games we have historically struggled with but are by no means unwinnable.

 

Get draws from Chelsea at home, and Manu at home - games we could very well win but I don't feel comfortable enough calling. 

 

Beat Leicester away, Palace at home, Ipswich at home, and Brentford at home - games we should really in theory win.

 

I think that's the most realistic course of events I can see and would land us on 64 points which I'm hoping would be enough for 5th but the issue is were so inconsistent.

 

 

 

We need to beat Chelsea and Man U at home. 

I think 5th will need 66-68 points. We need to find a mini-run. Chelsea and Forest already have the points on the board. 
 

 

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Nottingham Forest-P27 Points 48 GD 11, Man City (H), Ipswich (A), Man U (H),Villa (A), Everton (H), Spurs (A), Brentford (H), Crystal Palace (A), Leicester City (H), West Ham  (A), Chelsea (H)
Manchester City-P27 Points 47 GD 16, Forest (A), Brighton (H), Leicester (H), United (A), Palace (H), Everton (A), Villa (H), Wolves (H), Southampton (A), Bournemouth (H), Fulham (A)
Chelsea-P27 Points 46 GD 16-Leicester (H), Arsenal (A), Spurs (H), Brentford (A), Ipswich (H), Fulham (A), Everton (H), Liverpool (H), Newcastle (A),  Man U (H), Forest (A)
Newcastle United-P27 Points 44 GD 8, -West Ham (H), Brentford (H), Leicester (A), Man U (H), Palace (H), Villa (A), Ipswich (H), Brighton (A), Chelsea (H), Arsenal (A), Everton (H)
Bournemouth-P27 Points 43 GD 13,Spurs (A), Brentford (H), Ipswich (H), West Ham (A), Fulham (H), Palace (A), United (H), Arsenal (A), Villa (H), City (A), Leicester (H)
Brighton P27 Points 43 GD 5, Fulham (H), City (A), Villa (H), Palace (A), Leicester (H), Brentford (A), West Ham (H), Newcastle (H), Wolves (A), Liverpool (H), Spurs (A)
Fulham P27 Points 42 GD-4, Brighton (A), Spurs (H), Arsenal (A), Liverpool (H), Bournemouth (A), Chelsea (H), Southampton (A), Villa (A), Everton (H), Brentford (A),Man City (H)
Aston Villa-P28 Points 42 GD-5,Brentford (A), Brighton (A), Forest (H), Southampton (A), Newcastle (H), City (A), Fulham (H), Bournemouth (A), Spurs (H), United (A)

 

 

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