johnny36 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I still think Man Utd & Spurs will have a say..Granted they have been terrible all season but Ange and Amorim will want to stop the rot. They wont want to be going into a major Final in negative fashion. Some of their fringe players will be wanting to impress and play in the final and also Ange and Amorim are probably fighting for their futures too Ange moreso Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Would rather Man City lose points next season, helping us to win the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRL Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Virgin Bet have Villa and Chelsea double just under evens if anyone wants an emotional hedge. Whack Forest in and it’s over 3s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 18 minutes ago, johnny36 said: I still think Man Utd & Spurs will have a say..Granted they have been terrible all season but Ange and Amorim will want to stop the rot. They wont want to be going into a major Final in negative fashion. Some of their fringe players will be wanting to impress and play in the final and also Ange and Amorim are probably fighting for their futures too Ange moreso Amorim will be in charge start of next season regardless. I hope you’re right though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 3 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Amorim will be in charge start of next season regardless. I hope you’re right though. If Amorim wins the Europa I can see him walking away. Clearly not enjoying himself, can say he won something and go off and join a normal club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 hours ago, Erikse said: I'm still having anxiety about those last 10 min of the Leicester 0-0 game 2 years ago. We were absolutely smashing them up until that point, and they had nothing. Last 10 min we decided to "be smart" by passing it around the back instead, and lost the ball there couple of times only to concede big chances. Pope had to make a crazy save in the end. That game was ridiculous. 78% possession, 23 shots (3 off the post), and 12 corners. They didn't have a shot until the 93rd minute and almost won it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ikon said: First of all I don’t think it will come to that but let’s say it does hypothetically . If we struggle to go a couple of goals up against Everton quite early on when we have to win, I don’t think I would survive watching us hanging on to a say 1-0 lead where we sit deep and struggle for control and getting out of our own third. It would kill me That's what scares me already about that game. I can see us go 1-0 up, and then invite them into our box in the last 30 or so. Would barely be able to watch that again. I do think we have a good shot at beating Arsenal though. I really hope we do. Just to remove any doubt. Edited May 13 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 2 hours ago, timeEd32 said: That game was ridiculous. 78% possession, 23 shots (3 off the post), and 12 corners. They didn't have a shot until the 93rd minute and almost won it. Yeah, for sure. If the game goes like that vs Everton and we simply have average luck instead of what happened that day, we will be atleast 3-0 up by the time we reach 80 min anyways. Edited May 13 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 hoping WHam get a draw or win against Forest, then Forest beat Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 30 minutes ago, huss9 said: hoping WHam get a draw or win against Forest, then Forest beat Chelsea. I can only see Forest beating Chelsea if they've got the win against West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I know in isolation they are all winnable games for our opponents, but to expect City, Chelsea, Villa and Forest to do as well as they all can from their remaining games isn’t as much of a ‘done deal’ as it seems. I bet if you were to do an acca for 2 city wins, 2 villa wins, a win each for Chelsea and forest, and whatever you want from the Chelsea/forest game, it would be at least 15/1. how many 15/1 bets are classed as bankers? Point is that whilst it will be twitchy until the end, we will probably end up with CL even if we don’t get 3 points from here on in. We only need 3 to guarantee it, so I’m sure 2 draws would be enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BermyToon Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Arsenal, City, Chelsea and Villa are all VERY LIKELY to get at least 69 points, so we would need one more win to guarantee top 5. If Villa drop points this Friday, then obviously we would need one point only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, Mazzy said: I can only see Forest beating Chelsea if they've got the win against West Ham. I agree with this, a draw against West Ham is only useful if Chelsea and Villa fail to win at home on Friday and those games are as close to being a done deal as you can get Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elma Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 From Oddschecker. I still can't understand how Chelsea are shorter than Villa for top five. For that to happen then Chelsea surely have to win both of their games (without a striker), and in my opinion their games are much harder than Villa's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Elma said: From Oddschecker. I still can't understand how Chelsea are shorter than Villa for top five. For that to happen then Chelsea surely have to win both of their games (without a striker), and in my opinion their games are much harder than Villa's. They both have to win two games, in neither case they’re difficult games on form. But if Villa do it they still might not qualify. Villa have also lost key players. Makes sense to me. Edited May 14 by Superior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 3 hours ago, BermyToon said: Arsenal, City, Chelsea and Villa are all VERY LIKELY to get at least 69 points, so we would need one more win to guarantee top 5. If Villa drop points this Friday, then obviously we would need one point only. I’m not sure Villa and Chelsea both winning both games is ‘very likely’. It could happen of course, but also probably won’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 European qualification discussions are like an "Indecisive Dave" sketch from the Fast show, imho 😂😂😂 Not saying who's more Dave like 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Happy to back 2 Chelsea wins and 2 Villa wins just to have compensation for last day stress levels. We will beat Everton either way and may even win at Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Elma said: From Oddschecker. I still can't understand how Chelsea are shorter than Villa for top five. For that to happen then Chelsea surely have to win both of their games (without a striker), and in my opinion their games are much harder than Villa's. Both have relatively winnable games but Chelsea have a miles better goal difference. Edited May 14 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Opta also have Chelsea as more likely to qualify. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 The GD advantage is why Chelsea are favourites Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 3 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I’m not sure Villa and Chelsea both winning both games is ‘very likely’. It could happen of course, but also probably won’t. Yeah its so silly, chances for that to happen according to the bookies atleast are going to be like 10-20%. Just placed a bet on Chelsea+Villa this friday where i will almost double my money if they both win. And those two games are by far easier than the two after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola14 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) finishing second with a trophy to celebrate this season would be a monumental achievement the only slight downside to that is people's expectations - it's unlikely we repeat that next season and then you get people questioning Howe's future at the club and all the usual shite I'm not expecting a title challenge next season and just worry Howe might become a victim of his own success balancing European football with domestic will be difficult Edited May 14 by Ginola14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, Displayname said: Yeah its so silly, chances for that to happen according to the bookies atleast are going to be like 10-20%. Just placed a bet on Chelsea+Villa this friday where i will almost double my money if they both win. And those two games are by far easier than the two after. I guess with so many teams for so many positions it’s hard for us to clearly understand our chances. But we do tend to assume every other team is going to collect loads of points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 33 minutes ago, Ginola14 said: finishing second with a trophy to celebrate this season would be a monumental achievement the only slight downside to that is people's expectations - it's unlikely we repeat that next season and then you get people questioning Howe's future at the club and all the usual shite I'm not expecting a title challenge next season and just worry Howe might become a victim of his own success balancing European football with domestic will be difficult If we get Champions League next season then it will be interesting to see how we approach the cup competitions. Winning the cup this season was incredible but to challenge long-term I'd sacrifice the cups early on to again qualify for the Champions League. Two consecutive seasons in the Champions League would transform the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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