SUPERTOON Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Varane and Dalot aren’t injured Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:06, SUPERTOON said: Varane and Dalot aren’t injured Expand Varane was on the bench and he starts Maguire and Evans, Christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:06, SUPERTOON said: Varane and Dalot aren’t injured Expand Dalot isn't the starter and Varane is indeed injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:09, 54 said: Varane was on the bench and he starts Maguire and Evans, Christ Expand Tactical reasons according to Ten Hag ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:09, 54 said: Varane was on the bench and he starts Maguire and Evans, Christ Expand Varane is our best and first choice centre back. Genuinely losing faith in a lot of posters on here if they think he hasn't started because of tactical reasons. Jonny Evans is fifth choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Aye, think we'll beat Man United 8-1 personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:16, Shak said: Aye, think we'll beat Man United 8-1 personally. Expand I wouldn't even be shocked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Aye mate, I just hope somehow you're able to at least field a team and don't have to forfeit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 17:00, Kanji said: If you’re judging anything on the results right now w/r/t to us you’re mad. We’re 5-7 points off where we should be but we’ve hard the hardest run of fixtures I’ve seen for us in 10 matches. Our next turn will be tough too. So surely there will be an easier run when we’re back to full strength Expand Don't think this should be underestimated either. I know the fixture list will eventually all even itself out and I'm not whinging but I'd argue we'll have played 23 matches from August to Dec 15th (15 PL, 6 CL & 2 LC) and I think only 4/5 of them could be considered 'easier' fixtures (Sheff U & Bournemouth away and Burnley & Palace home) every other game has been fairly/very difficult. The 8 Cup fixtures have all been against high quality teams and we've already played 8 of the other 12 teams in the current top 13. When the opposition is so consistently good then any rotation is likely to cost points. I'm not defending anything but the level of teams we've played hasn't led to us being able to rest bodies enough. As I say, I'm not moaning about it but difficult fixtures have to be considered - it will get easier but not for the next 6 weeks or so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 How many other PL clubs would swap their own manager for ten Hag? Can't be many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:20, The Butcher said: How many other PL clubs would swap their own manager for ten Hag? Can't be many. Expand None of the good ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:18, Shak said: Aye mate, I just hope somehow you're able to at least field a team and don't have to forfeit. Expand True. Hopefully their current plight will convince the owners to give Ten Hag some money to spend so he gets a fair crack, and doesn’t have to continue to operate on a shoestring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:21, SUPERTOON said: None of the good ones. Expand You think any of the good ones would swap for Howe? Pep, Klopp, Arteta, Ange, De Zerbi, Emery. None of those clubs with those managers would swap their manager for anyone IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Salty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:29, alexf said: Salty. Expand At what exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:24, Froggy said: You think any of the good ones would swap for Howe? Pep, Klopp, Arteta, Ange, De Zerbi, Emery. None of those clubs with those managers would swap their manager for anyone IMO. Expand Difference between Howe and Ten Hag is that Howes team got a clear pattern to their game. Im still not sure what Ten Hags philosophy is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRL Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:18, midds said: Don't think this should be underestimated either. I know the fixture list will eventually all even itself out and I'm not whinging but I'd argue we'll have played 23 matches from August to Dec 15th (15 PL, 6 CL & 2 LC) and I think only 4/5 of them could be considered 'easier' fixtures (Sheff U & Bournemouth away and Burnley & Palace home) every other game has been fairly/very difficult. The 8 Cup fixtures have all been against high quality teams and we've already played 8 of the other 12 teams in the current top 13. When the opposition is so consistently good then any rotation is likely to cost points. I'm not defending anything but the level of teams we've played hasn't led to us being able to rest bodies enough. As I say, I'm not moaning about it but difficult fixtures have to be considered - it will get easier but not for the next 6 weeks or so Expand Four away games post champions league in a row hasn’t helped either. If we are top 6/7 and within 5-8 points of the Top 5 at the turn of the year, I would be pleased, given the way this season has aligned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:32, nufc123 said: Difference between Howe and Ten Hag is that Howes team got a clear pattern to their game. Im still not sure what Ten Hags philosophy is. Expand Only if you're watching highlights and taking part in criticism without paying attention to our games. Very clear that Ten Hag's style is to push high up the pitch and press for middle and final third turnovers. We've been largely successful at that, but Rashford has been massively misfiring and having your entire defence and defensive midfielder injured means we've conceded far too many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:11, Froggy said: Varane is our best and first choice centre back. Genuinely losing faith in a lot of posters on here if they think he hasn't started because of tactical reasons. Jonny Evans is fifth choice. Expand Why wasn't he starting today then? I get that he played on Wednesday and came back from an injury recently, but that was a month ago, so surely he should be starting? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:45, 54 said: Why wasn't he starting today then? I get that he played on Wednesday and came back from an injury recently, but that was a month ago, so surely he should be starting? Expand Because he's never fit. Trust me. If Ten Hag was legitimately benching Varane for Evans and Maguire he'd be hounded out of the club. He loves Varane, and wanted Maguire gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 18:41, Froggy said: Only if you're watching highlights and taking part in criticism without paying attention to our games. Very clear that Ten Hag's style is to push high up the pitch and press for middle and final third turnovers. We've been largely successful at that, but Rashford has been massively misfiring and having your entire defence and defensive midfielder injured means we've conceded far too many. Expand To be honest, Sky Sports studio also said they have no idea what ManU are trying to do. And it has been over a year. You can't press with Maguire and Evans at cb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I think Sheffield United, Luton Town and maybe Bournemouth would have Ten Hag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Comparing Eddie to Ten Hag, look where we were when Eddie took over compared to where we are now then do the same with Ten Hag and Man United whilst also looking at the cost of each squad, it’s not even up for debate who the better manager is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Sunderland can have him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 19:23, gbandit said: Sunderland can have him Expand Be class that, prob take them down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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