The Europeometer™ (2024/25) - NUFC Qualify for Conference League (at least)

[bobbydazzla]

2 hours ago, Menace said:

We'll be fine

[Geordie Ahmed]

1 hour ago, astraguy said:

So if I've done this right

New max points -72! Gd 21

Chel- max points 72 gd 6

Forest max points 72 gd 12

Villa max points 69 gd 6

So 2 wins outta outta 3 and villa can't catch us, doesn't guarantee cl though 

 

As long as one of the wins is Chelsea then it will 

[Benwell Lad]

This thread is starting to keep me awake at night.

Keep looking in for someone to come up with conclusive proof that we qualify for CL but end up with half a dozen optimism/pessimism swings in five minutes.

 

Of course the bookies have us 1/4 to qualify and Forest and Villa odds against but that factors in Forest being 5/2 just to win tonight. If they do pull off a win it changes significantly in their eyes.

It's going to be an excruciating three weeks.

[bobbydazzla]

Are we the most pessimistic fans in the whole entire world?

 

Asking for a friend

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by bobbydazzla

[JigsawGoesToPieces]

We are only ahead of Chelsea on goals scored. 

 

If we dont beat Chelsea and we finish level on points and GD, Chelsea would finish above on head to head.

[Fak]

1 minute ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said:

We are only ahead of Chelsea on goals scored. 

 

If we dont beat Chelsea and we finish level on points and GD, Chelsea would finish above on head to head.

 

Thats the spirit. 

[SteV]

7 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said:

We are only ahead of Chelsea on goals scored. 

 

If we dont beat Chelsea and we finish level on points and GD, Chelsea would finish above on head to head.

No, we’d continue to be ahead of them on goals scored.

[Paully]

Palace will do us a favour tonight and we’ll beat Chelsea on Sunday - KEEMON

[Stifler]

46 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said:

We are only ahead of Chelsea on goals scored. 

 

If we dont beat Chelsea and we finish level on points and GD, Chelsea would finish above on head to head.

H2H is a last resort tie breaker in the U.K.

[JigsawGoesToPieces]

20 minutes ago, Stifler said:

H2H is a last resort tie breaker in the U.K.

 

Yeah

 

Points

GD

Goals Scored

Head 2 Head

 

What i said in my original post was if we have the same points and GD, potentially it could come down to head to head particularly with us having the more difficult remaining fixtures

 

 

Edited 8 hours ago by JigsawGoesToPieces

[bobbydazzla]

[SteV]

53 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said:

 

Yeah

 

Points

GD

Goals Scored

Head 2 Head

 

What i said in my original post was if we have the same points and GD, potentially it could come down to head to head particularly with us having the more difficult remaining fixtures

 

 

 

Same points, GD AND same goals scored before h2h comes into it.

 

But given we’re 4 goals ahead it would take a fairly odd set of results over the last two games for it to come down to that, so I wouldn’t fret.

[Elma]

3 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

 

As long as one of the wins is Chelsea then it will 

Exactly. As although Chelsea could still pass us on GD they'd have to beat Forest to do that, meaning the best Forest could get would be 69, and they'd have to overturn a nine goals difference. One of them could pass us but not both.

 

That may even improve tonight if Forest don't beat Palace. 

[Ginola14]

so hard to predict but I think there's a good chance ourselves, Chelsea, Forest and Villa all go into the last game on 66 points 

 

assuming that

 

we beat Chelsea and lose to Arse 

 

Chelsea lose to us and beat MU 

 

Forest lose to Palace, then beat Wham and Leicester 

 

Villa beat Bournemouth and Spurs 

 

above scenario is not ideal as final day could be excruciatingly stressful

 

would still back us to beat Everton at home which should be enough 

 

 

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Ginola14

[Leemond]

Need the same level of support the lads got at Wembley this Sunday. Its just as big of a game as the cup final was.

[WilliamPS]

16 minutes ago, Ginola14 said:

so hard to predict but I think there's a good chance ourselves, Chelsea, Forest and Villa all go into the last game on 66 points 

 

assuming that

 

we beat Chelsea and lose to Arse 

 

Chelsea lose to us and beat MU 

 

Forest lose to Palace, then beat Wham and Leicester 

 

Villa beat Bournemouth and Spurs 

 

above scenario is not ideal as final day could be excruciatingly stressful

 

would still back us to beat Everton at home which should be enough 

 

 

 

 

 

Be quite happy if this turned out true. Chelsea Forest play each other and Villa have a terrible goal difference, so it would be a great opportunity 

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

6 hours ago, bobbydazzla said:

Are we the most pessimistic fans in the whole entire world?

 

Asking for a friend

 

 

 

Weirdly I saw a thing with a few 40odd year old Man City fans and they are still like us, expecting bad things to happen despite the last decade plus of evidence to the contrary. So by my reckoning it might just be a genuine fan thing tbh.

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, Ginola14 said:

so hard to predict but I think there's a good chance ourselves, Chelsea, Forest and Villa all go into the last game on 66 points 

 

assuming that

 

we beat Chelsea and lose to Arse 

 

Chelsea lose to us and beat MU 

 

Forest lose to Palace, then beat Wham and Leicester 

 

Villa beat Bournemouth and Spurs 

 

above scenario is not ideal as final day could be excruciatingly stressful

 

would still back us to beat Everton at home which should be enough 

 

 

 

 

 

Id take this scenario now. 
 

Beat Chelsea and Everton at home to secure CL has always been likely anyway.  
 

Because of our GD we can be level on points going into the final game.  
 

What we don’t want is to need other results to go in our favour. 

[Geogaddi]

Beat Chelsea and we get top 5, don't beat them and it's going to be very hard, it's as simple as that . Always expected Chelsea to win yesterday so nothing has changed really with that result .

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Geogaddi

[ExiledGeordie]

1 minute ago, Geogaddi said:

Beat Chelsea and we get top 5, don't beat them and it's going to be very hard, it's as simple as that .

This is basically the score. Fail to beat Chelsea we’d have to beat Arsenal away instead an hope results go for us.

[Optimistic Nut]

We'd probably need to go to Arsenal and get a result if we don't beat them which isn't ideal. Could do with Arsenal knocking PSG out as painful and unlikely as that'll be, just to keep them distracted.

[ExiledGeordie]

4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

We'd probably need to go to Arsenal and get a result if we don't beat them which isn't ideal. Could do with Arsenal knocking PSG out as painful and unlikely as that'll be, just to keep them distracted.

Yes I get that point but equally Arsenal winning the champions league is a hideous one. I actually think m if they get knocked out there might be a bit of a hangover anyway. They’ll still qualify for CL so maybe they just be a bit flat in general with “season over” scenario.

[Stifler]

11 minutes ago, Geogaddi said:

Beat Chelsea and we get top 5, don't beat them and it's going to be very hard, it's as simple as that.

This is where I’m at.

I think we are more than capable of getting 3 points from our final 2 games, possibly 4, depending on which Arsenal turns up.

 

I’m just not convinced that we’ll beat Chelsea. It will be a hard game, if we had Joelinton I’d have a lot more faith.

[Ronaldo]

1 hour ago, Ginola14 said:

so hard to predict but I think there's a good chance ourselves, Chelsea, Forest and Villa all go into the last game on 66 points 

 

assuming that

 

we beat Chelsea and lose to Arse 

 

Chelsea lose to us and beat MU 

 

Forest lose to Palace, then beat Wham and Leicester 

 

Villa beat Bournemouth and Spurs 

 

above scenario is not ideal as final day could be excruciatingly stressful

 

would still back us to beat Everton at home which should be enough 

 

 

 

 

 

We’re just not losing away to Arsenal without something going drastically wrong or a huge slice of luck in their favour. 

[NSG]

Palace v Forest and Bournemouth v Villa are huge games.

 

If they could both avoid away wins then we could go into Sunday knowing a win would all but guarantee us top 5.