The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 10:27 Share Posted yesterday at 10:27 59 minutes ago, Erikse said: I agree, but Man Utd has proven to be a difficult team to beat for the top teams (except from us). I had some hopes if they didn't get to the final. It's wild to think about how many points 6th and especially 7th will get this season compared to other seasons. I didn't. Was always going to be a bonus. Liverpool winning the league and a good win at Fulham tilted my perspective on Chelsea. They've got a good chance of making it, I expected them to finish 6th/7th. We should beat them. But i expect they will still be in the race come GW38 with a win probably enough to secure it. 20 minutes ago, Vaj said: Bournemouth vs Villa game is huge for us. If Bournemouth can beat them then we should really finish above Villa regardless of the Chelsea game outcome. We need to beat Chelsea man. Not beating Chelsea opens the gates for a GW38 draw that would see both Forest & Chelsea qualify, which we need to avoid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted yesterday at 10:30 Share Posted yesterday at 10:30 I can smell it lads Bournemouth 2-1 Villa NUFC 2-0 Chelsea Forest 1-1 Leicester Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted yesterday at 10:37 Share Posted yesterday at 10:37 9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I didn't. Was always going to be a bonus. Liverpool winning the league and a good win at Fulham tilted my perspective on Chelsea. They've got a good chance of making it, I expected them to finish 6th/7th. We should beat them. But i expect they will still be in the race come GW38 with a win probably enough to secure it. We need to beat Chelsea man. Not beating Chelsea opens the gates for a GW38 draw that would see both Forest & Chelsea qualify, which we need to avoid. I agree that beating Chelsea is huge in terms of keeping it in our hands. However, if we do fail to win, we can still make it to where we need to be so can still hope that other teams slip up. Doesn't matter how we get there, as long as we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 10:42 Share Posted yesterday at 10:42 2 minutes ago, Vaj said: I agree that beating Chelsea is huge in terms of keeping it in our hands. However, if we do fail to win, we can still make it to where we need to be so can still hope that other teams slip up. Doesn't matter how we get there, as long as we do. The biggest threat would be a Forest-Chelsea draw that see's them both qualify with 68-69 points on the last day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted yesterday at 11:38 Share Posted yesterday at 11:38 54 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: The biggest threat would be a Forest-Chelsea draw that see's them both qualify with 68-69 points on the last day. Again I do agree but there is then also the possibility of Forest drawing at West Ham and then needing to win the final game to finish above us if we went on to beat Everton. Lots of different scenarios can play out. Hopefully we do our job anyway but it is far from over if we only draw on Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 12:00 Share Posted yesterday at 12:00 13 minutes ago, Vaj said: Again I do agree but there is then also the possibility of Forest drawing at West Ham and then needing to win the final game to finish above us if we went on to beat Everton. Lots of different scenarios can play out. Hopefully we do our job anyway but it is far from over if we only draw on Sunday. We'll have to see how the other results go. But we have the hardest GW37 fixture by a distance and we play last from the bunch. I expect 7th place will have 64 points minimum by 4pm of GW37 Saturday. That's massive pressure on us, if we are also on 64 points. For me it's been clear what we need to do to secure the CL from since the League Cup final. We've dropped points when I expected we might and we've won every game we needed to win. Chelsea & Villa have picked up the points they should've got in that time too so there's no massive margin for error. I thought we needed to beat Chelsea then and I've never changed my mind. I thought it might be the death knell for Chelsea, while it won't be that - it will be a hammer blow. You're right it's not over if we don't beat them. But I can't stand that mentality. It's a must-win. Always has been for me. I want the players thinking the same thing and I'm sure they will. I think we are readying Big Joe for precisely that reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 12:10 Share Posted yesterday at 12:10 https://theanalyst.com/2025/05/champions-league-qualification-race-man-city-newcastle-chelsea-nottingham-forest-aston-villa "To add a further worry, one of their most important players could be missing for these two games, as Joelinton is still struggling with a knee injury. When he missed a three-game sequence against Man City, Forest and Liverpool back in February, Newcastle conceded nine goals – 20% of their total for the whole season." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted yesterday at 12:15 Share Posted yesterday at 12:15 4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: https://theanalyst.com/2025/05/champions-league-qualification-race-man-city-newcastle-chelsea-nottingham-forest-aston-villa "To add a further worry, one of their most important players could be missing for these two games, as Joelinton is still struggling with a knee injury. When he missed a three-game sequence against Man City, Forest and Liverpool back in February, Newcastle conceded nine goals – 20% of their total for the whole season." Love a negative don't you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted yesterday at 12:24 Share Posted yesterday at 12:24 12 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: https://theanalyst.com/2025/05/champions-league-qualification-race-man-city-newcastle-chelsea-nottingham-forest-aston-villa "To add a further worry, one of their most important players could be missing for these two games, as Joelinton is still struggling with a knee injury. When he missed a three-game sequence against Man City, Forest and Liverpool back in February, Newcastle conceded nine goals – 20% of their total for the whole season." Feel like Man City away and Liverpool away is usually about 20% of our seasonal goal concession regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elma Posted yesterday at 13:02 Share Posted yesterday at 13:02 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: The biggest threat would be a Forest-Chelsea draw that see's them both qualify with 68-69 points on the last day. Provided we don't lose to Chelsea, we could avoid that with another point at Arsenal. If we could get to 68 with a final day win against Everton, then Forest would have to beat Chelsea on the final day and Chelsea wouldn't be able to rely on a draw either, depending on how many goals they can put past Man U a week today. Of course, if Villa win all three then in the above situation a Forest v Chelsea draw will be the only result that would get us over the line, provided we can put a few past Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 13:58 Share Posted yesterday at 13:58 1 hour ago, Scoot said: Love a negative don't you. Not at all. I'm more bulish than most about our chances of beating Chelsea. Just an interesting stat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 14:00 Share Posted yesterday at 14:00 55 minutes ago, Elma said: Provided we don't lose to Chelsea, we could avoid that with another point at Arsenal. If we could get to 68 with a final day win against Everton, then Forest would have to beat Chelsea on the final day and Chelsea wouldn't be able to rely on a draw either, depending on how many goals they can put past Man U a week today. Of course, if Villa win all three then in the above situation a Forest v Chelsea draw will be the only result that would get us over the line, provided we can put a few past Everton. I've more confidence in beating Chelsea at home than getting a point at the Emirates. Your scenario also leaves the door open for Villa potentially. Fuck that. Beat Chelsea and we have 2-swings at securing CL football, all in our hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted yesterday at 14:09 Share Posted yesterday at 14:09 (edited) 4 hours ago, The College Dropout said: I didn't. Was always going to be a bonus. Liverpool winning the league and a good win at Fulham tilted my perspective on Chelsea. They've got a good chance of making it, I expected them to finish 6th/7th. We should beat them. But i expect they will still be in the race come GW38 with a win probably enough to secure it. We need to beat Chelsea man. Not beating Chelsea opens the gates for a GW38 draw that would see both Forest & Chelsea qualify, which we need to avoid. I mean their game away game at Villa Park literally ended in a draw. This time around it's their last home game of the season. Man Utd have allways been good vs Villa. They beat them twice last season despite Villa finishing 4th. It's almost like the Bournemouth situation for us. Not saying Villa weren't favourites to win this game, but it wasn't as clear as you would think (without the final). Being mid to lower table didn't stop Man Utd from taking points off of Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea, and Villa this season. Edited yesterday at 14:53 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted yesterday at 15:17 Share Posted yesterday at 15:17 3 hours ago, The College Dropout said: https://theanalyst.com/2025/05/champions-league-qualification-race-man-city-newcastle-chelsea-nottingham-forest-aston-villa "To add a further worry, one of their most important players could be missing for these two games, as Joelinton is still struggling with a knee injury. When he missed a three-game sequence against Man City, Forest and Liverpool back in February, Newcastle conceded nine goals – 20% of their total for the whole season." In 3 of the hardest games like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted yesterday at 15:30 Share Posted yesterday at 15:30 We definitely shouldn't depart too much from previous badges and heritage. Could someone 'shop a seahorse and a magpie necking on with someone like Stevie Taylor having a tug in the background? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted yesterday at 15:30 Share Posted yesterday at 15:30 Wrong thread? Maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted yesterday at 15:57 Share Posted yesterday at 15:57 (edited) All permutations and worries are pointless , beat Chelsea and we get top 5, don't beat them and we wont. Really is as simple as that . Edited yesterday at 15:58 by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, Geogaddi said: All permutations and worries are pointless , beat Chelsea and we get top 5, don't beat them and we wont. Really is as simple as that . Not really. 4 points from our next 2 games will do just fine, however we get them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Villa game tonight is huge , if they win that we are going to need another 6 points to finish above them . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Villa game tonight is huge , if they win that we are going to need another 6 points to finish above them . We need 6 points anyway we can’t be concerned what other teams do if we don’t get our job done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Yeah tonight could turn things real ugly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 58 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said: Yeah tonight could turn things real ugly It's not like you to put a negative spin on things! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Villa shouldn’t matter to us at the end of the season. Uncomfortable if they catch up temporarily but if they finish ahead then we’ve really, really messed it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Ketsbaia said: Yeah tonight could turn things real ugly How? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Ketsbaia said: Yeah tonight could turn things real ugly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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