Ketsbaia Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Someone needs to stop Villa, like. This is going on far too long. Also... how the hell are Man United not like 11th or 12th?!?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 42 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said: Someone needs to stop Villa, like. This is going on far too long. Don't let @toon25 see this. He's fully converted now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, cubaricho said: Froggy you are the best WUM on here dude. I wish. Bruno Fernandes was literally the most creative player in the league last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Ketsbaia said: Also... how the hell are Man United not like 11th or 12th?!?! Because we've won 8 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Ketsbaia said: Someone needs to stop Villa, like. This is going on far too long. Also... how the hell are Man United not like 11th or 12th?!?! Because aside from City they've been playing relegation candidates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, Froggy said: Because we've won 8 games. Because biggest xG over-performance in the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Jagten said: Because biggest xG over-performance in the league I used the "expected" statistic as to why Bruno Fernandes was the best player in the league last year and was laughed at. Can't pick and choose when you want to use it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 hours ago, nemtizz said: Because aside from City they've been playing relegation candidates. Weird to omit the team that is literally top of the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Just now, Froggy said: Weird to omit the team that is literally top of the league. Fair point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, McDog said: Fair point. I try my best. Also worth noting that this clearly wonky line is why we didn't come away from the Emirates with three points: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, Froggy said: I used the "expected" statistic as to why Bruno Fernandes was the best player in the league last year and was laughed at. Can't pick and choose when you want to use it. Ah, I'm a sympathiser. Elite players will generally outperform their expected goals fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jagten said: Ah, I'm a sympathiser. Thank you, appreciate it. Anyway, enjoy hammering us on Saturday and then we'll see where we both end up in May. It's a long season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Froggy said: I used the "expected" statistic as to why Bruno Fernandes was the best player in the league last year and was laughed at. Can't pick and choose when you want to use it. I don’t believe xG is a useful stat personally so maybe that’s why I also don’t believe Fernandes was “the most creative player in the league” last season either. Edited November 28, 2023 by cubaricho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Froggy said: Because we've won 8 games. Yes but how? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Villa are an interesting one - very good team and wouldn't be surprised if they finished in or near the top 4. I do think though that the pressure will be on now. Probably I expected them to finish as part of the chasing pack, like a lot of others. But now they look a genuine threat a lot more teams will be looking at them much more seriously and that's when it starts to count. Long old season and when we made it last season we became pretty relentless. Not saying they can't do that as well, but this is where the real test for them starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Villa will be right up there, very good side with a very good manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: Villa will be right up there, very good side with a very good manager. They'll have a spell like Spurs have had at some point, we just need to stay within sort of 6-7 points while we have these injuries and capitalise when they do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: They'll have a spell like Spurs have had at some point, we just need to stay within sort of 6-7 points while we have these injuries and capitalise when they do. Absolutely couldn’t agree more but I’m sure we will too. Wouldn’t be surprised if we both finished top 5 personally. both ourselves and Villa are better than we get credit for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Villa also got demolished by us and Liverpool , winning at Spurs was impressive but I am interested to see how they do at home to the other good teams as they have only played Brighton so far out of the top 8 at home . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 They’ll clearly give everyone a game. The issue as has already been mentioned is what happens if they go on a run of three-four bad results. They’re playing with huge confidence which works well with their high risk strategy of a high line. However, if confidence dropped it could easily lead to some drubbings or clangers. I personally think they’ll finish top six but probably no higher than sixth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, gbandit said: They’ll clearly give everyone a game. The issue as has already been mentioned is what happens if they go on a run of three-four bad results. They’re playing with huge confidence which works well with their high risk strategy of a high line. However, if confidence dropped it could easily lead to some drubbings or clangers. I personally think they’ll finish top six but probably no higher than sixth They will be fine, I think the thing they have to watch out for is keeping Watkins fit. If he gets injured things could really slide for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 hours ago, cubaricho said: I don’t believe xG is a useful stat personally so maybe that’s why I also don’t believe Fernandes was “the most creative player in the league” last season either. I used it to reason why he was the best player in the league, not the most creative. I said he was the most creative because he was literally the most creative. That's fact and not debatable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 50 minutes ago, Rod said: Yes but how? We've scored more than our opponents Rod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 If Villa can maintain their consistency at home they should stay within touching distance of top 4 all season, as always though the common denominator will be down to luck with fitness and injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Rod coming out swinging, you love to see it. Unfortunately it’s a bit early in the day for Rod to be leathered. Come back this evening and show Froggy what you’re all about Rod Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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