timeEd32 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Europa League draw very intriguing. Liverpool can knock out Atalanta. One of Roma or Milan will be gone. And West Ham v Leverkusen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 The draws have changed the math with Germany and England now having higher max scores than Italy, though both can't hit their max since there are two head-to-head matchups. If either West Ham or Arsenal win I think it will be pretty much job done for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 6 hours ago, The College Dropout said: I like the Conference League. And yes any PL club in it has a great chance of winning it. For the likes of Villa and West Ham, it’s the only competition they are ever likely to be in where they will be favourites. Same for us - this decade at least. We’d have a bus parade if we won it. Of course it’s a serious cup. Its just a re worded Intertoto Cup,and who won that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 7 minutes ago, astraguy said: Its just a re worded Intertoto Cup,and who won that? Aye it's the reworded intertoto. Not worth our time because we are perennial winners of major trophies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Btw I think we finished 10th to qualify for the Fairs Cup... which obviously some kind of pre-intertoto cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 21 minutes ago, astraguy said: Its just a re worded Intertoto Cup,and who won that? It's nothing like the Intertoto Cup like. More Cup Winners Cup standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: 28 minutes ago, astraguy said: Its just a re worded Intertoto Cup,and who won that? It's nothing like the Intertoto Cup like. More Cup Winners Cup standard. Why do people keep saying this? The Intertoto Cup was a preliminary qualifier for the UEFA Cup contained entirely in pre-season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Why do people keep saying this? The Intertoto Cup was a preliminary qualifier for the UEFA Cup contained entirely in pre-season. This. None of these competitions are anything like the Intertoto Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Look. If no one else has the cojones to say it I will. I hope we forfeit our spot if we get the conference league. It's just an unnecessary distraction to getting in to the prettier parts of Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Europa Conference would be class. You'd get to the last 8 playing a fringe XI so could rest the A-listers so they're not playing twice a week, and the fringe players get important minutes throughout the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: Europa Conference would be class. You'd get to the last 8 playing a fringe XI so could rest the A-listers so they're not playing twice a week, and the fringe players get important minutes throughout the season. Totally agree. It's the perfect nursery pool for us IMO. Extra games but of a lower standard. Away to FCwhothefuck in Europe are exactly the sorts of games where Lascelles, Longstaff, Murphy can get a game. Save the class lads for the bread and butter of the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, STM said: Totally agree. It's the perfect nursery pool for us IMO. Extra games but of a lower standard. Away to FCwhothefuck in Europe are exactly the sorts of games where Lascelles, Longstaff, Murphy can get a game. Save the class lads for the bread and butter of the PL. I’m all for it, blood the team including the young uns and some squad players, and Eddie into 2 games a week, build our European co-efficient and hopefully break our duck and claim a trophy. This isn’t something to turn our noses up to. Knowing us we’d fuck it up though, West Ham win in 2023, Villa win in 2024 and then we shoot ourselves in the foot and miss out on a trophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 hours ago, STM said: Totally agree. It's the perfect nursery pool for us IMO. Extra games but of a lower standard. Away to FCwhothefuck in Europe are exactly the sorts of games where Lascelles, Longstaff, Murphy can get a game. Save the class lads for the bread and butter of the PL. And class away trips for the supporters too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 8 hours ago, astraguy said: Its just a re worded Intertoto Cup,and who won that? It isn’t like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 7 hours ago, wormy said: Look. If no one else has the cojones to say it I will. I hope we forfeit our spot if we get the conference league. It's just an unnecessary distraction to getting in to the prettier parts of Europe. Not only is this not the case, it even has the advantage of increasing the club’s coefficients which would mean that any future European Cup qualification would see more money paid in prizes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 It's a third tier tournament, just like the domestic Full Members cup back in the day. Someone said it was on par with the old Cup Winners Cup, which is bollocks as you actually had to win something in the first place to get into it. I wouldn't mind being in it but I'd use it as a platform to play the fringe players only. If we won I'd put in on par with our Texaco and Anglo Italian cup wins in the early 70s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 4 hours ago, Beth said: It's a third tier tournament, just like the domestic Full Members cup back in the day. Someone said it was on par with the old Cup Winners Cup, which is bollocks as you actually had to win something in the first place to get into it. I wouldn't mind being in it but I'd use it as a platform to play the fringe players only. If we won I'd put in on par with our Texaco and Anglo Italian cup wins in the early 70s. Look at the clubs in the latter years of the CWC. When Chelsea won it in one of the last years, they had the likes of Tromso...Stuttgart being one of the most difficult teams that year. Our one season in it, we'd just finished 13th. The very last CWC, was Lazio v Mallorca in the final. Their runs had been: LAZIO: (7th in Italian League) Lausanne-Sport (3rd in Swiss League) Partizan Belgrade (3rd in Yugoslavian League) Panionios (11th in Greek League) Chelsea (4th in English League) REAL MALLORCA: (5th in Spanish League) Hearts (3rd in Scottish League) Genk (2nd in Belgian League) Varteks (10th in Croatian League) Loko Moscow (3rd in Russian League) Most of those clubs would be in Euro Conference through league placings these days (3rd in the likes of the Scottish, Belgian, Swiss Leagues etc normally struggle to make the Europa League Proper and drop down into the Europa Conference for instance). Was so surprised it only needed 8 games to reach the final. Edited March 16 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 hours ago, Beth said: It's a third tier tournament, just like the domestic Full Members cup back in the day. Someone said it was on par with the old Cup Winners Cup, which is bollocks as you actually had to win something in the first place to get into it. I wouldn't mind being in it but I'd use it as a platform to play the fringe players only. If we won I'd put in on par with our Texaco and Anglo Italian cup wins in the early 70s. No, it’s more like a European League Cup. The Texaco Cup were never recognised competitions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Fuck it, it's a trophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 We should absolutely be wanting any European football. Fuck, even if just for Howe to get experience in European football and improve. Would also be our best chance of a trophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 7 hours ago, Beth said: It's a third tier tournament, just like the domestic Full Members cup back in the day. Someone said it was on par with the old Cup Winners Cup, which is bollocks as you actually had to win something in the first place to get into it. I wouldn't mind being in it but I'd use it as a platform to play the fringe players only. If we won I'd put in on par with our Texaco and Anglo Italian cup wins in the early 70s. As is the case for the Conference League. Qualification is based entirely on merit, i.e. domestic cup wins and league placing. That's the total opposite of the likes of the Anglo-Italian Cup, which featured mostly bottom half, second division and (for a few years) semi-pro sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Again we finished 10th to qualify for the Fairs Cup. So that doesn’t count either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 9 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: No, it’s more like a European League Cup. The Texaco Cup were never recognised competitions It's not though is it. CL = FA Cup EL = League Cup ECL= PapaJohns Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Beth said: It's not though is it. CL = FA Cup EL = League Cup ECL= PapaJohns Cup None of those competitions are equivalents of one another (unless you can point me to Maidstone United's Champions League opposite number...?) But in any case, the Papa Johns Cup is comprised of all teams from the third tier, fourth tier and Under-21 divisions. Participation is guaranteed. The Conference League is merit-based and comprised of domestic cup winners and First Division high finishers (e.g. Villa, Frankfurt, Fiorentina, etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, Beth said: It's not though is it. CL = FA Cup EL = League Cup ECL= PapaJohns Cup If you think that the European Cup is the European equivalent of the FA Cup, then there’s little more I can write. Bloody hell … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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