Anthony Gordon

[nufcjb]

Get in! Love the fact that the lad is ours and not from any other team. Would have been the sort of player I'd would hate us playing against but would want him here.

 

 

Edited October 23, 2024 by nufcjb

[Fezzle]

13 hours ago, timeEd32 said:

Good to know Gordon has more positivity about the team and the manager than much of this board. 

Almost as though a fair chunk on here enjoy talking negative shite

 

Also that video

 

 

Edited October 23, 2024 by Fezzle

[r0cafella]

6 minutes ago, Fezzle said:

Almost as though a fair chunk on here enjoy talking negative shite

 

Also that video

 

 

 

You can always engage with those you disagree with instead of dismissing points raised as negative shite. 

 

I think @HaydnNUFCin particular has written some excellent posts about his concerns. Things don't have to be tribal. 

[STM]

3 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

You can always engage with those you disagree with instead of dismissing points raised as negative shite. 

 

I think @HaydnNUFCin particular has written some excellent posts about his concerns. Things don't have to be tribal. 

 

That sounds like a good idea in theory but I've made several posts highlighting the ridiculousness of several posters who have continually blamed Howe for everything from injuries to transfer policy, the same people were doing the same thing the season we finished 4th.

 

These cowards start their posts with "I'm supportive of Howe but..." and then carry on with all the reasons they aren't supportive. 

 

It's the easiest thing in the world to be the most negative cunt in the room. It would be like me spending the last 4 days talking about the subs I didn't agree with on Saturday, and what? What would be the point?

 

He's still the best manager since SBR and I've yet to hear one viable alternative.

 

There's people who talk like (I'm convinced believe) they know more about this game than Eddie Howe. They don't. I suppose that's fine because it's a football forum and we are hear to chat, right? What would be the point otherwise? Well I guess there is a way of doing it that doesn't sound so mental.

[Fezzle]

15 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

You can always engage with those you disagree with instead of dismissing points raised as negative shite. 

 

I think @HaydnNUFCin particular has written some excellent posts about his concerns. Things don't have to be tribal. 

Im not addressing some peoples relentless crap, thats what ignore is for. Also why my participation in the football section is very limited now, to the point i stayed away for nearly a month. Also 'concerns' like Haydens are literally the oposite of what i commented on, but you knew that already.....

[Fezzle]

1 minute ago, STM said:

 

That sounds like a good idea in theory but I've made several posts highlighting the ridiculousness of several posters who have continually blamed Howe for everything from injuries to transfer policy, the same people were doing the same thing the season we finished 4th.

 

These cowards start their posts with "I'm supportive of Howe but..." and then carry on with all the reasons they aren't supportive. 

 

It's the easiest thing in the world to be the most negative cunt in the room. It would be like me spending the last 4 days talking about the subs I didn't agree with on Saturday, and what? What would be the point?

 

He's still the best manager since SBR and I've yet to hear one viable alternative.

 

There's people who talk like (I'm convinced believe) they know more about this game than Eddie Howe. They don't. I suppose that's fine because it's a football forum and we are hear to chat, right? What would be the point otherwise? Well I guess there is a way of doing it that doesn't sound so mental.

Said it better than me, will stick to chat until we do the quadruple. At least most will then be happy

[Holloway]

Splendid news. I almost like listening to this lad as much as I like watching him

[STM]

Just now, Fezzle said:

Im not addressing some peoples relentless crap, thats what ignore is for. Also why my participation in the football section is very limited now, to the point i stayed away for nearly a month. Also 'concerns' like Haydens are literally the oposite of what i commented on, but you knew that already.....

 

The forum is losing more and more of its more balanced members, who are fed up with the relentless drivel coming from certain people. We've even had a couple delete their accounts. It's a shame because the admins do a really good job but they can't choose who comes in.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, STM said:

 

That sounds like a good idea in theory but I've made several posts highlighting the ridiculousness of several posters who have continually blamed Howe for everything from injuries to transfer policy, the same people were doing the same thing the season we finished 4th.

 

These cowards start their posts with "I'm supportive of Howe but..." and then carry on with all the reasons they aren't supportive. 

 

It's the easiest thing in the world to be the most negative cunt in the room. It would be like me spending the last 4 days talking about the subs I didn't agree with on Saturday, and what? What would be the point?

 

He's still the best manager since SBR and I've yet to hear one viable alternative.

 

There's people who talk like (I'm convinced believe) they know more about this game than Eddie Howe. They don't. I suppose that's fine because it's a football forum and we are hear to chat, right? What would be the point otherwise? Well I guess there is a way of doing it that doesn't sound so mental.

In my experience of this place, those posters don't tend to last long as they generally aren't sincere. Sincere posters generally have nuanced opinions. 

 

it is possible to be supportive of someone whilst questioning someone's decision making too, of course Eddie knows more about football than any posters but this forum exists to promote discussion of all things NUFC and despite Eddie's superior knowledge he will still get things wrong. 

[r0cafella]

5 minutes ago, Fezzle said:

Im not addressing some peoples relentless crap, thats what ignore is for. Also why my participation in the football section is very limited now, to the point i stayed away for nearly a month. Also 'concerns' like Haydens are literally the oposite of what i commented on, but you knew that already.....

Absolutely if you feel a certain poster talks nothing but drivel or trolls just stick them on ignore and move on. Things can certainly get emotional at times on here with knee jerk reactions aplenty but the thought of being driven off this section because I disagree with someone's views on football is beyond me. 

[r0cafella]

And apologies to all for derailing this a bit. 

 

In regards to this contract I'm happy but a bit confused. Are we planning to give everyone who performs well for a year a new contract which makes them the highest earner? I was certain the stories of that initial contract being 3 and half years were nonsense but now I'm not sure anymore. 

[Dr Venkman]

8 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Absolutely if you feel a certain poster talks nothing but drivel or trolls just stick them on ignore and move on. Things can certainly get emotional at times on here with knee jerk reactions aplenty but the thought of being driven off this section because I disagree with someone's views on football is beyond me. 

I think it’s less about individual disagreements and more about the relentless tidal wave of shit, doom-mongering craic cloaked as analysis during a time when the prospects of the club are as good as they’ve been for many decades. There’s been quite an influx of energy vampires on this board recently.

 

 

Edited October 23, 2024 by Dr Venkman

[nufcjmc]

7 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

And apologies to all for derailing this a bit. 

 

In regards to this contract I'm happy but a bit confused. Are we planning to give everyone who performs well for a year a new contract which makes them the highest earner? I was certain the stories of that initial contract being 3 and half years were nonsense but now I'm not sure anymore. 

I get the worry the miggy purple patch extension was a mistake which contributed to the non existent new RW. 

 

However you need to pick players to build a side around. We aren't able to bat offers away for our players from everyone securing assets is key. 

 

As the club grows and new signings will  get higher wages you have to continue to keep pace for the better players. 

 

If he is rumoured to be our new top earner or at least on par with what say Isak is getting offered for his new deal I can understand the worry with every contract and signing it comes with an element of risk. If he goes onto have a great season this contract basically stops him being unsettled if we doesn't produce it this year a long contract length protects the asset from a "cheeky offer". 

 

 

Edited October 23, 2024 by nufcjmc

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said:

I think it’s less about individual disagreements and more about the relentless tidal wave of shit, doom-mongering craic cloaked as analysis during a time when the prospects of the club are as good as they’ve been for many decades. There’s been quite an influx of energy vampires on this board in recent times.

I see, I think I read most posts but I don't really see what you've described to that extent. Plenty of bad takes which is to be expected and events of the last 12 months or so have definitely knocked the wind out our sales though. 

[Heron]

14 hours ago, huss9 said:

red really suits him.

[nufcjmc]

2 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I see, I think I read most posts but I don't really see what you've described to that extent. Plenty of bad takes which is to be expected and events of the last 12 months or so have definitely knocked the wind out our sales though. 

I think what i read it's more about people having the same narrative just on different subjects so it all seems doom and gloom. Project is in the bin after board changes, project in the bin we haven't signed anyone  project in the bin no new sponsors, project in the bin stadium plans no longer imminent, project in the bin psr issues, project in the bin team not performing, project in the bin still got miggy/murphy/longstaff in and around first 11 etc etc. 

 

At the same time the people who say its not Ashley and we have come so far seems very rose tinted specs that you wash over any big issues as this all takes time and it's a blip. 

 

Certainly I admit we lose and my thoughts go negative but I suffer from clinical depression and my glass is always half full with a hole in it. 

 

I hope we all agree ultimately we want the team to succeed and do well even if how we get there is different. 

[Dr Venkman]

Just now, nufcjmc said:

I think what i read it's more about people having the same narrative just on different subjects so it all seems doom and gloom. Project is in the bin after board changes, project in the bin we haven't signed anyone  project in the bin no new sponsors, project in the bin stadium plans no longer imminent, project in the bin psr issues, project in the bin team not performing, project in the bin still got miggy/murphy/longstaff in and around first 11 etc etc.

 

[r0cafella]

Just now, nufcjmc said:

I think what i read it's more about people having the same narrative just on different subjects so it all seems doom and gloom. Project is in the bin after board changes, project in the bin we haven't signed anyone  project in the bin no new sponsors, project in the bin stadium plans no longer imminent, project in the bin psr issues, project in the bin team not performing, project in the bin still got miggy/murphy/longstaff in and around first 11 etc etc. 

 

At the same time the people who say its not Ashley and we have come so far seems very rose tinted specs that you wash over any big issues as this all takes time and it's a blip. 

 

Certainly I admit we lose and my thoughts go negative but I suffer from clinical depression and my glass is always half full with a hole in it. 

 

I hope we all agree ultimately we want the team to succeed and do well even if how we get there is different. 

Thanks for the insight! Yes I think such takes without any form of nuance or detail are pretty unhelpful and don't add much to the conversation. 

 

That being said, I'm sure we are all guilty of the odd flippant post myself included

 

I will also add that the club have themselves to blame as well for expectations which maybe considered elevated given past statements mind. 

[Heron]

15 hours ago, Jack27 said:

enjoy folks

Lush that last bit. Hits a very soft spot for me right now.

[Matt1892]

Great news, fully deserved too.

[nufcjmc]

39 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Thanks for the insight! Yes I think such takes without any form of nuance or detail are pretty unhelpful and don't add much to the conversation. 

 

That being said, I'm sure we are all guilty of the odd flippant post myself included

 

I will also add that the club have themselves to blame as well for expectations which maybe considered elevated given past statements mind. 

I loved Amanda but as a minor shareholder she had a bit of an issue in terms of maybe saying things that you shouldn't or heat of the moment. You could see how much she cared and was excited as most to see this succeed. I think right now we have a new management structure yes the other owners are here still but we have changed sporting director and due to Darren's health a new chief executive is coming. Added to the change in rules brought in place while we have been taken over I feel our approach has and will change due to the new people coming on board. 

 

I think the club has now made it clear to be a European side consistently is the aim what appears to have changed is how we do this and the speed in which it will happen. 

 

It's frustrating when you hear that we need to drive up commercial revenue but have yet to bring in a training ground or training kit sponsor.  It's frustrating when you hear at first we want to challenge for everything and  be the best but under the current climate don't appear to have a clear plan to do this other than be in Europe year on year. 

 

I never expected as PSR was real before the take over we could spend 100s of millions every window. We been spoilt getting champions league and being competitive against every side in the league this was bound to be difficult to maintain. The challenge now is how many years are we away from getting back into the champions league. 

 

I did worry slightly by the Gordon interview when he said champions league and trophy is the aim as he and a few others in the side feel like champions league players. Not sure we can match that ambition is it's  a requirement for them sticking around. 

 

Still would i rather aim high and be confident and fall short or be like the old days of the club not wanting Europe or cup runs as it hurts league form. I guess the answer is I want the former with more performances from the group to match that bold ambition. 

[Holmesy]

1 hour ago, Heron said:

Lush that last bit. Hits a very soft spot for me right now.

He's just an absolute credit to himself, his family and the club's that have shaped him. None of it feels forced or false. Just a genuinely good human being and a ruthless competitor.

You can't not like the guy.

[LFEE]

2 hours ago, Matt1892 said:

Great news, fully deserved too.

It is and it isn’t. Not a fan of improving contracts so quickly. Let’s see you do it for two back to back seasons first. Would tell all agents that when signing players. Do that and reward them handsomely.

[Theregulars]

Strange timing given how poor he's been this season. Hopefully it sorts him.

[Erikse]

Wait, I thought his head was in Liverpool and he couldn't wait to leave?