KetsbaiaIsBald Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Brunos miss was worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said: Brunos miss was worse No chance, on the volley is harder just running straight through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Alberto2005 said: No chance, on the volley is harder just running straight through. right in front of goal? to not even hit the target!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Craig Hope is a bit of a wanker these days, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said: right in front of goal? to not even hit the target!? Yeah he should have hit the target but it's still a more difficult chance imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 When you hear Hope talk, its not as bad as is headlines suggest. He's a hack at the end of the day. His job is to poke the bear. Dicks fuck pussies and assholes as the Team America saying went. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Aye, it's the wrong thread for it, but I feel he likes the smell of his own farts too much, to quote South Park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: Yeah he should have hit the target but it's still a more difficult chance imo. maybe... just ? Bruno missed that and messed up for their goal. If Gordon had done those two things he'd be getting destroyed right now. Bruno has learnt the right for the above to be ignored. Gordon hasn't earnt the right to miss his chance yet. I think we naturally judge platers to different levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said: maybe... just ? Bruno missed that and messed up for their goal. If Gordon had done those two things he'd be getting destroyed right now. Bruno has learnt the right for the above to be ignored. Gordon hasn't earnt the right to miss his chance yet. I think we naturally judge platers to different levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 I seem to remember Isak, in one of his early matches, missing a 1v1 which was arguably an easier chance and considerably more of a fluff. Gordon was involved in what big chances we managed to create in the first half, he'll have a lot to offer next season imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 On 30/04/2023 at 14:58, nufcjb said: Should have scored his chance. Prediction. Double figures next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Finally got round to watching the full match. He was our best player first half and a bit unlucky to come off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Finally got round to watching the full match. He was our best player first half and a bit unlucky to come off. Where can you watch full matches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 minute ago, jonny1403 said: Where can you watch full matches? Recorded it on Polish TV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 I'd keep starting him because that's exactly what he needs, like any player, to thrive. He's such a tidy player that loves to drive forward and I only want to see more of him. Assists, chances galore and hopefully the odd goal will follow soon enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 22 hours ago, Menace said: I have no doubt he will become a 15/20 G/A winger in the next 18 months. We will look back and see it as good business, but of course our fan base expects him to hit the ground running from the first touch of the ball. Surprised Howe's tenure has not showed people that patience is required for some players. This is more G/A than he’s got in his entire career. His age mate Olise, slapped that in a single Champo season as a teenager. 21 hours ago, Conjo said: Most of them were younger than Gordon is now is the only point I'm making. I'm not saying he won't turn into a good player for us, just that I think using his age as an excuse for him not hitting the ground running isn't a very good one. Aye. At his age 90% of good players have shown something somewhere at a professional level that they can produce. 21 hours ago, Ace said: Outside of Kane who we can all agree is a bit special. The rest of those players mentioned were playing in the lower leagues. If Gordon was in the championship he’d look like a superstar. Honestly. I would have liked to have seen that. It would’ve given me a lot more confidence in the lad. Iirc he’s got something like 11 professional G/A. Agree with Kaka that he’s very inexperienced despite his age. He doesn’t have a track record. so for me, he doesn’t pass the eye test. And there is no evidence he can produce. So I’ve been worried about him from day one. I think we got him because he’s younger and they thought he had a higher ceiling than someone like Jack Harrison. 2 footed, tenacious wide man. While he is tenacious and quick, I don’t think he has great stamina and doesn’t know how to press effectively imo. There are some ingredients that I like, tenacious, quick, pass and move, uses both feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) Just on the stamina note, he'll still have an Everton hangover from that. His conditioning will have been at the same levels as the team we faced the other night, who had only one half of football in them before falling apart when trying to keep up with us. Edited May 2, 2023 by 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, 80 said: Just on the stamina note, he'll still have an Everton hangover from that. His conditioning will have been at the same levels as the team we faced the other night, who had only one half of football in them before falling apart when trying to keep up with us. Good point. I did read somewhere that he’s had stamina issues before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: This is more G/A than he’s got in his entire career. His age mate Olise, slapped that in a single Champo season as a teenager. Aye. At his age 90% of good players have shown something somewhere at a professional level that they can produce. Honestly. I would have liked to have seen that. It would’ve given me a lot more confidence in the lad. Iirc he’s got something like 11 professional G/A. Agree with Kaka that he’s very inexperienced despite his age. He doesn’t have a track record. so for me, he doesn’t pass the eye test. And there is no evidence he can produce. So I’ve been worried about him from day one. I think we got him because he’s younger and they thought he had a higher ceiling than someone like Jack Harrison. 2 footed, tenacious wide man. While he is tenacious and quick, I don’t think he has great stamina and doesn’t know how to press effectively imo. There are some ingredients that I like, tenacious, quick, pass and move, uses both feet. His lack of stamina was evident at times on Saturday. Fingers crossed that will be addressed in pre season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 17 hours ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Prediction. Double figures next season. I like him, he's got a lot going for him, but I'm not sure he strikes the ball particularly well. Pretty sure when I watched a youtube compilation when we signed him most of his goals were tap ins. And there weren't that many of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Good point. I did read somewhere that he’s had stamina issues before. Iirc Howe had him on an extra fitness regime to get him up to speed back in February. Not sure if that's ongoing etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 give him a full pre-season here and he'll be absolutely fine. look at the state of Everton and who he's been working under and alongside! it'll take a while to get that stink off him. not sure he'll ever be a world-beater, but he has all the tools to be a very effective winger in Howe's system. if Murphy and Miggy can do it, this lad certainly can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 What do people expect Gordon to become? For his fee and age I would want a blue chip player for the future. Based on what I’ve seen. My ambitions are lower. He’s never had a purple patch in his career so I don’t know what that would look like. Much like Miggy, ultimately I’ll be happy if he proves to be worth the money we’ve paid and make it back when he’s sold. I don’t think he will ever have the quality to be a regular top 5 wide man. Would love to be proven wrong. I never thought Schar would look as good as he has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Just now, The College Dropout said: What do people expect Gordon to become? For his fee and age I would want a blue chip player for the future. Based on what I’ve seen. My ambitions are lower. He’s never had a purple patch in his career so I don’t know what that would look like. Much like Miggy, ultimately I’ll be happy if he proves to be worth the money we’ve paid and make it back when he’s sold. I don’t think he will ever have the quality to be a regular top 5 wide man. Would love to be proven wrong. I never thought Schar would look as good as he has. I think he's going to be a Milner, Barry, Lescott type that Man City had near the beginning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicente_14 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 I watched him very closely and he showed plenty of promise, some nice touches, good pace, and eager to drive forward, I think a work in progress and a player that 12 months from now will be of real value to the side once Eddie has really had time to develop him. His decision making seemed to be the thing letting him down, a few times Isak and Willock were less than impressed by his choices but this is something that will improve with elite coaching. One thing I was watching, was his body language and general demeanour, he didn't seem happy and often looked like he had the weight of the world on his shoulders. I think as fans we often take it for granted that a player arrives and should instantly be perfect, that's how it works on FM! We overlook the other factors that contribute to a player, such as moving away (yes, not a million miles from home), but still, a young lad moving away, to new surroundings having left his home town in slightly acrimonious circumstances must have an effect mentally, the hefty price tag, the eagerness to impress, there are many factors to this beyond just the obvious footballing ability. He needs some time, a full pre-season and once he is fully settled and more comfortable in his surroundings he will begin to flourish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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