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1 hour ago, danny said:

When that physio bent his knee and he screamed my heart dropped out of my arse

 

But there are only 3 hard matches left out of 10 manu spurs and westham

 

The likes of Luton, Bournemouth and Nottingham Forest have been incredibly difficult for us.

 

Every game left is a hard match.

 

As well as every away game just about so wouldn't expect much at all from those 5 away games.

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29 minutes ago, Displayname said:

How did he get injured?

Eddie said in the post match presser there wasn’t a specific incident that caused it, he just felt it come on and get gradually worse.

 

Watching on TV it looked like he pulled up chasing a ball towards the corner that Gusto cleared to touch after about 15 mins. Might have been feeling something before then like.

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1 hour ago, SteV said:

Eddie said in the post match presser there wasn’t a specific incident that caused it, he just felt it come on and get gradually worse.

 

Watching on TV it looked like he pulled up chasing a ball towards the corner that Gusto cleared to touch after about 15 mins. Might have been feeling something before then like.

 

He 100% went into the game feeling it. Either he didn't mention it to the staff or they told him to see how it went. You could tell from kick off he wasn't right.

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3 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Played far to much imo. Not going to say its because of that, but it wouldnt surprise me.

This, wasn’t miggy sent home from international’s last year because of muscle fatigue, it wouldn’t surprise me if it comes out later this week that he’s out for the season. 

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3 minutes ago, pubteam said:

And Gary Neville compared our injuries to man u and spurs, not even close mate.

I'd say they are pretty similar to be fair in terms of impactful players missing.

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5 minutes ago, pubteam said:

And Gary Neville compared our injuries to man u and spurs, not even close mate.

Yeah, I'm beyond sick of hearing "they've had injuries but..."

 

It's all a bit "but how was the rest of the play Mrs Lincoln?"

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2 hours ago, Joelinton7 said:

Injury is our identity 

 

Came here to say pretty much exactly the same thing.

 

Training with 100% intensity is fine if you're just playing 38 PL games and a domestic cup game here and there, and able to take a rest when other teams are playing in Europe. 

 

But with our CL commitments this season, I think many of us were quite rightly asking the question before the season started as to how Howe was going to approach this season as anyone could see training with and playing with 100% intensity every single time, with our full court press style, wasn't going to last. I'm not surprised at all with how bad it's been. Correlation does not mean causation, there's other factors as well of course, but playing nearly the same unchanged XI every game and not protecting players when given the opportunity is something I'm disappointed with Howe about. Using your full squad of players is basics at the high levels we're aiming for. There's definitely some aspects to squad management that Howe needs to go away and take stock of for next season.

 

There's a reason that the best teams in the country just don't simply out-run their opponents like we often did last season, because they can't do it every game with the schedules they have to keep. If we're going to mix it up with the big boys, we need a quality-focused approach rather than simply running teams off the park.

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2 hours ago, HawK said:

 

Came here to say pretty much exactly the same thing.

 

Training with 100% intensity is fine if you're just playing 38 PL games and a domestic cup game here and there, and able to take a rest when other teams are playing in Europe. 

 

But with our CL commitments this season, I think many of us were quite rightly asking the question before the season started as to how Howe was going to approach this season as anyone could see training with and playing with 100% intensity every single time, with our full court press style, wasn't going to last. I'm not surprised at all with how bad it's been. Correlation does not mean causation, there's other factors as well of course, but playing nearly the same unchanged XI every game and not protecting players when given the opportunity is something I'm disappointed with Howe about. Using your full squad of players is basics at the high levels we're aiming for. There's definitely some aspects to squad management that Howe needs to go away and take stock of for next season.

 

There's a reason that the best teams in the country just don't simply out-run their opponents like we often did last season, because they can't do it every game with the schedules they have to keep. If we're going to mix it up with the big boys, we need a quality-focused approach rather than simply running teams off the park.

Klopp did the same thing at Dortmund and Liverpool... with his ultra press, lung bursting playing style.

 

Both went off the rails when players were burnt out but he has managed to build a stronger squad that he can rotate or bring in quality youngsters.

 

We are not there yet with either the squad or the academy graduates

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3 hours ago, HawK said:

 

Came here to say pretty much exactly the same thing.

 

Training with 100% intensity is fine if you're just playing 38 PL games and a domestic cup game here and there, and able to take a rest when other teams are playing in Europe. 

 

But with our CL commitments this season, I think many of us were quite rightly asking the question before the season started as to how Howe was going to approach this season as anyone could see training with and playing with 100% intensity every single time, with our full court press style, wasn't going to last. I'm not surprised at all with how bad it's been. Correlation does not mean causation, there's other factors as well of course, but playing nearly the same unchanged XI every game and not protecting players when given the opportunity is something I'm disappointed with Howe about. Using your full squad of players is basics at the high levels we're aiming for. There's definitely some aspects to squad management that Howe needs to go away and take stock of for next season.

 

There's a reason that the best teams in the country just don't simply out-run their opponents like we often did last season, because they can't do it every game with the schedules they have to keep. If we're going to mix it up with the big boys, we need a quality-focused approach rather than simply running teams off the park.

Basically 1 domino fell in Barnes vs Sheff United, and then everything started collapsing coupled with Tonali's ban.

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4 hours ago, TRC said:

I'd say they are pretty similar to be fair in terms of impactful players missing.


Not sure I agree 

 

Tonali season 

Big Joe 2/3rds

Willock - 2/3rds

Botman - 3 months

Barnes - 5 months

Pope - 4 months 

Targett - 5 months

Anderson - 4 months 

Isak/Wilson - every other week

Gordon - 6 months 

 

it’s been relentless 

 

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58 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said:

Klopp did the same thing at Dortmund and Liverpool... with his ultra press, lung bursting playing style.

 

Both went off the rails when players were burnt out but he has managed to build a stronger squad that he can rotate or bring in quality youngsters.

 

We are not there yet with either the squad or the academy graduates

But going hand in hand with the high intensity press is an ability to keep the ball when it's won, we don't do that, we just don't have the quality. So the amount of out-of-possession running is multiplied by our lack of technical ability on the ball. Liverpool and Dortmund have and had much greater quality across their squad to retain the ball. 

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