Financial Fair Play / Profit & Sustainability - New APT Rules Approved by Premier League

[SUPERTOON]

 

[FloydianMag]

 

[et tu brute]

The winds are changing direction rather quickly
 

[r0cafella]

29 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

The winds are changing direction rather quickly
 

This is cole, Villa who also loathe these rules supporting another member who loathes these rules isn't shocking at all. 

 

The wind required is 14 votes to make more equitable rules. 

[The College Dropout]

Think all the clubs involved in FFP shenanigans with maybe Everton as an exception have owners that would pump money into clubs via inflated sponsorships if possible - no?

 

Forest

Chelsea

Us

Villa

Leicester

 

That would leave us 2 short of preventing crappy rules.   We’ll find out soon enough. 

[et tu brute]

17 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Think all the clubs involved in FFP shenanigans with maybe Everton as an exception have owners that would pump money into clubs via inflated sponsorships if possible - no?

 

Forest

Chelsea

Us

Villa

Leicester

 

That would leave us 2 short of preventing crappy rules.   We’ll find out soon enough. 

City

[Nucasol]

2 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

City

Don’t we only need 6 dissenters?

 

It’ll hopefully be us, City, Chelsea, Everton, Villa, Leicester and Forest. Back to the drawing board wanky red shirt cuntbags.

[lovejoy]

27 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Think all the clubs involved in FFP shenanigans with maybe Everton as an exception have owners that would pump money into clubs via inflated sponsorships if possible - no?

 

Forest

Chelsea

Us

Villa

Leicester

 

That would leave us 2 short of preventing crappy rules.   We’ll find out soon enough. 

Man City

[SUPERTOON]

Man Utd not be more likely to want to inflate sponsorship now ? Ornstein was on sky yesterday saying they have no money to spend in January due to FFP.

[TRon]

4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Man Utd not be more likely to want to inflate sponsorship now ? Ornstein was on sky yesterday saying they have no money to spend in January due to FFP.

 

 

I think they would rather cut their own balls off than give the go ahead to rule changes which would help other clubs to break their market stranglehold.

[et tu brute]

2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

This is cole, Villa who also loathe these rules supporting another member who loathes these rules isn't shocking at all. 

 

The wind required is 14 votes to make more equitable rules. 

The wind is ensuring these rules are not passed and the tribunal confirming that the rules are void. Then it's open season 

[r0cafella]

11 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

The wind is ensuring these rules are not passed and the tribunal confirming that the rules are void. Then it's open season 

Sounds great on paper I wouldn't be so sure personally. After all, the clubs who aren't in favour of lax financial regulation only have to draw up rules which are lawful and pass them. I've got no doubts this is what they will be attempting to do as we speak. 

[et tu brute]

58 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Sounds great on paper I wouldn't be so sure personally. After all, the clubs who aren't in favour of lax financial regulation only have to draw up rules which are lawful and pass them. I've got no doubts this is what they will be attempting to do as we speak. 

We will see on Friday, all you need is 7 clubs to say no and they won't be passed. According to reports a few weeks ago, more clubs were coming on board with regards to APT. If the tribunal state that the current rules are unlawful and the Premier League can't get their desperate attempt to pass new rules, then it's open season until new rules are passed. Man City have played a blinder here.

 

 

Edited November 19 by et tu brute

[Colos Short and Curlies]

2 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

Man Utd not be more likely to want to inflate sponsorship now ? Ornstein was on sky yesterday saying they have no money to spend in January due to FFP.

 

I suppose you could have Ineos pump millions into Man U and reduce their tax position, as long as Man U post taxable losses then its a win for Brexit Jim. 

 

The issue they have compared to others is that whilst Ratcliffe is part owner of Man U, its not done through Ineos directly so the ability to throw money into the club from his money generating engine is restricted

[The College Dropout]

The red tops will be against it.  These rules mean they will forever have a financial advantage of the likes of us and Villa for players and managers.  
 

Their owners are in it to make money. Not spend it.  
 

On some level this is a vanity project for PIF. The ends will justify the means. If our club becomes a global brand like Man City or Chelsea, it will be worth more than money to PIF.  

[duo]

Pep new contract = Man City getting zero sanction of 115 charges - imo

[NG32]

10 hours ago, duo said:

Pep new contract = Man City getting zero sanction of 115 charges - imo

Thats what i was thinkig this morning, City must be confident that they will win this case against the Premier League rules. 

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, NG32 said:

Thats what i was thinkig this morning, City must be confident that they will win this case against the Premier League rules. 

Rumours are he's minded to stay regardless so this doesn't give any indication of the outcome imo. 

[SUPERTOON]

10 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Rumours are he's minded to stay regardless so this doesn't give any indication of the outcome imo. 

Aye, but if the punishment is as bad as predicted there is no chance he manages a team not in the top level of football.

[r0cafella]

16 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Aye, but if the punishment is as bad as predicted there is no chance he manages a team not in the top level of football.

Who knows maybe this new deal has a break clause allowing him to walk away. 

[The College Dropout]

11 hours ago, duo said:

Pep new contract = Man City getting zero sanction of 115 charges - imo

It’s only a year.  Wasn’t his contract due to end this season? 
 

Could just have signed it to minimise speculation.  If it was a long term deal I think it would be more consequential. 

[SUPERTOON]

1 hour ago, r0cafella said:

Who knows maybe this new deal has a break clause allowing him to walk away. 

https://twitter.com/City_Xtra/status/1859184822003847178

 

No break clause according to that.

[duo]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

It’s only a year.  Wasn’t his contract due to end this season? 
 

Could just have signed it to minimise speculation.  If it was a long term deal I think it would be more consequential. 

2027 apparently 

[Terraloon]

24 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

https://twitter.com/City_Xtra/status/1859184822003847178

 

No break clause according to that.

If the “ rumours”  are correct he has signed for another year with an option of another year.

 

Looking realistically at the 115+ charges we certainly have a final resolution before the start of 25/26 season or more relevant until after the 25/26 PL annual general meeting.

 

We won’t know till probably Feb/March at the earliest the outcome of the initial IC ruling so add in the appeal process and  then in a blink of an eye you are almost certainly post the last game of the 24/25 season then I believe that that arbitration is a possibility. 
 

It’s too easy to pre judge the outcome but for me even if City are proven guilty of every charge the sanction will be points deduction and fines in 26/27 which of course we believe is the final guaranteed year of his soon to be announced squeaky new contract.

 

You can almost hear it now “ Winning x number of PL titles was wonderful but my greatest achievement was avoiding regulation despite a 40 ( delete and replace with whichever number you feel appropriate) point deduction 

[Jackie Broon]

41 minutes ago, Terraloon said:

If the “ rumours”  are correct he has signed for another year with an option of another year.

 

Looking realistically at the 115+ charges we certainly have a final resolution before the start of 25/26 season or more relevant until after the 25/26 PL annual general meeting.

 

We won’t know till probably Feb/March at the earliest the outcome of the initial IC ruling so add in the appeal process and  then in a blink of an eye you are almost certainly post the last game of the 24/25 season then I believe that that arbitration is a possibility. 
 

It’s too easy to pre judge the outcome but for me even if City are proven guilty of every charge the sanction will be points deduction and fines in 26/27 which of course we believe is the final guaranteed year of his soon to be announced squeaky new contract.

 

You can almost hear it now “ Winning x number of PL titles was wonderful but my greatest achievement was avoiding regulation despite a 40 ( delete and replace with whichever number you feel appropriate) point deduction 

 

I doubt the charges will stick, the PL's profit and sustainability rules were clearly badly drafted and full of holes, and the charges relate to before the amendments were brought in after our takeover to strengthen the disclosure and control over related party transactions.