Kid Icarus Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Kevin Maguire is currently on Loaded Mag talking about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 55 minutes ago, cubaricho said: And just for capping wages right? Not infrastructure and things like that? I think it'll be the same as the FFP calcluation which is essentially wages, transfers and agent's fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Curious what the number even looks like. What are we ballparking Sheff Utd gets in TV money this year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Hudson said: It would take a few years of holding our breaths and praying for the best but if us, United, Arsenal, Spurs resigned from the Prem and asked to join the EFL just before the next TV rights deal, then almost all of England's football problems could be solved. They are so unaware how happy that would make the entire PL That’s fully them. They can’t wait to fuck off. So it’s ok for them to spend a shit load, but not others, ok for other clubs to be given a limit on spending, but not them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 4 minutes ago, cubaricho said: Curious what the number even looks like. What are we ballparking Sheff Utd gets in TV money this year? Southampton got £103.6m last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Might be worth a listen. Anyone listen ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Anyone listen ? Yeah, nothing particularly groundbreaking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 We just need to really start pumping the sponsors to up our turnover. But other than sela and noon We seem to have been a bit slow on that front. so maybe it’s a route the club have deemed too obvious a piss take. compare manure list of partners: https://www.manutd.com/en/partners/global to ours: https://www.newcastleunited.com/club/partners/current-partners/ im not really sure why our training gear doesn’t have any sponsor at all. I bet manure are getting something meaningful for their kit sponsor - it’s not the same as their shirt sponsor. surely there are half a dozen off this list who could make us up an extra £50m minimum. Maybe we do think it’s too risky a strategy. https://www.pif.gov.sa/en/our-investments/our-portfolio/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 3 minutes ago, FLUMPO235 said: We just need to really start pumping the sponsors to up our turnover. But other than sela and noon We seem to have been a bit slow on that front. so maybe it’s a route the club have deemed too obvious a piss take. compare manure list of partners: https://www.manutd.com/en/partners/global to ours: https://www.newcastleunited.com/club/partners/current-partners/ im not really sure why our training gear doesn’t have any sponsor at all. I bet manure are getting something meaningful for their kit sponsor - it’s not the same as their shirt sponsor. surely there are half a dozen off this list who could make us up an extra £50m minimum. Maybe we do think it’s too risky a strategy. https://www.pif.gov.sa/en/our-investments/our-portfolio/ We’ve not been that slow when you look at the list of partners we’ve announced since the takeover. We’ve added a fair few. Rome wasn’t built in a day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Anyone listen ? Only listened to the first 10 mins, but the main points seemed to be: - not as good as previously thought for us - 70 or whatever cap will run alongside, new stuff doesn’t superseded - if we have pulled our finger out out new turnover will be 300m so 70% or whatever will be about 210m a year in transfers. That’s apparently better than it sounds (sounded pretty good to me anyway) as it is that amortisation, so you could buy 10 x 20m a year players im happy to say I’m no expert at all so that may not be quite right. Also only based off first 10 mins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 2 minutes ago, Jack27 said: We’ve not been that slow when you look at the list of partners we’ve announced since the takeover. We’ve added a fair few. Rome wasn’t built in a day That’s great news, I’m only going off what’s on our official page, where is the better list? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 11 minutes ago, FLUMPO235 said: Only listened to the first 10 mins, but the main points seemed to be: - not as good as previously thought for us - 70 or whatever cap will run alongside, new stuff doesn’t superseded - if we have pulled our finger out out new turnover will be 300m so 70% or whatever will be about 210m a year in transfers. That’s apparently better than it sounds (sounded pretty good to me anyway) as it is that amortisation, so you could buy 10 x 20m a year players im happy to say I’m no expert at all so that may not be quite right. Also only based off first 10 mins Won't that be 210m per year on transfers and wages? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey47 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Hudson said: It would take a few years of holding our breaths and praying for the best but if us, United, Arsenal, Spurs resigned from the Prem and asked to join the EFL just before the next TV rights deal, then almost all of England's football problems could be solved. They are so unaware how happy that would make the entire PL Hilarious when Man U fans talk about “none of it matters the damage has already been done” they seem to forget they did the same thing before Chelsea and Man City Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 minute ago, Thumbheed said: Won't that be 210m per year on transfers and wages? Ah might be. Can’t say I fully get all of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) 6 minutes ago, FLUMPO235 said: Ah might be. Can’t say I fully get all of this. Nah me neither tbh. Our current wages are 74% of revenue with a turnover of £250m. I therefore have no clue as to what any of this means. That's all from me. Cheers. Edited April 29 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Definitely includes wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 20 minutes ago, FLUMPO235 said: That’s great news, I’m only going off what’s on our official page, where is the better list? I don’t think we have a definitive list because the website is trash but from the top of my head I can think of: Adidas, Sela, Saudia, STC, Fenwick, Quidd, Inpost, monster, sportsbet, noon, straightline it all adds up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) Apologies if this has already been posted but according to Athletic this is wages + amortisation + agent fees. So as things stand that's currently at about 271m which is far short of the 4.5 of the revenue of the bottom placed club, so we actually have huge scope to spend on fees but our challenge becomes managing wages to within the 70% revenue threshold (currently sat at 74%) So if our revenue goes up to 320m this year, our wage bill is allowed to be at about 227m (last year's was about 185m) leaving about 200m per year for amortisation + agent fees? How far off am I? Edit: so the challenge is actually aligning with UEFA who have a hard cap of 85% at present (70% in 25/26) all in on wages+amortisation and fees meaning at present our scope for expenditure is about 90m in wages and amortisation. Still plenty of scope, I think. Edited April 29 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, cubaricho said: Curious what the number even looks like. What are we ballparking Sheff Utd gets in TV money this year? £103million Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 3 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: BBC take on it- https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cpegd3dy8j7o Quote “The spend cap will be a hard multiple, and the rumoured amount is five times that amount, which would basically mean a spend cap of approximately £500m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 minute ago, Thumbheed said: Apoligies if this has already been posted but according to Athletic this is wages + amortisation + agent fees. So as things stand that's currently at about 271m which is far short of the 4.5 of the revenue of the bottom placed club, so we actually have huge scope to spend on fees but our challenge becomes managing wages to within the 70% revenue threshold (currently sat at 74%) So if our revenue goes up to 320m this year, our wage bill is allowed to be at about 227m (last year's was about 185m) leaving about 200m per year for amortisation + agent fees? How far off am I? By the time this thing goes live we might have a revenue of 375m We are going to win the lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 44 minutes ago, FLUMPO235 said: We just need to really start pumping the sponsors to up our turnover. But other than sela and noon We seem to have been a bit slow on that front. so maybe it’s a route the club have deemed too obvious a piss take. compare manure list of partners: https://www.manutd.com/en/partners/global to ours: https://www.newcastleunited.com/club/partners/current-partners/ im not really sure why our training gear doesn’t have any sponsor at all. I bet manure are getting something meaningful for their kit sponsor - it’s not the same as their shirt sponsor. surely there are half a dozen off this list who could make us up an extra £50m minimum. Maybe we do think it’s too risky a strategy. https://www.pif.gov.sa/en/our-investments/our-portfolio/ How does one work out fair market value for an Official Percussive Therapy Device Partner? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: Apologies if this has already been posted but according to Athletic this is wages + amortisation + agent fees. So as things stand that's currently at about 271m which is far short of the 4.5 of the revenue of the bottom placed club, so we actually have huge scope to spend on fees but our challenge becomes managing wages to within the 70% revenue threshold (currently sat at 74%) So if our revenue goes up to 320m this year, our wage bill is allowed to be at about 227m (last year's was about 185m) leaving about 200m per year for amortisation + agent fees? How far off am I? It’s actually wages, amortisation of transfer fees and agents fees that needs to be at 70%, not just wages Edited April 29 by nufcnick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 7 minutes ago, nufcnick said: It’s actually wages, amortisation of transfer fees and agents fees that needs to be at 70%, not just wages Yeh, back to my original post earlier on - I don't have a clue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymac1966 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 2 hours ago, Wolfcastle said: I don't/didn't even want us to do a Man City/Chelsea (was happy doing what we were) but all this stuff is madness Really? So more years in the doldrums is appealing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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