r0cafella Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Have to disagree. Ashley was a bad owner, a super league rips up a century and a half of history and wrests clubs from their communities A super league only affects Uefa competition and as I've mentioned in pretty sure absolutely nothing would have changed for fans of those clubs who joined in. Realistic speaking football fans generally don't walk away from the clubs they support. Given they all pretty much signed up for this concept it goes to show they came to the same conclusion. Money is so deeply embedded into football and thirst for more knows zero boundaries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Fans rarely move from clubs to clubs. If they have to leave, they will simply quit football and find another interest/sports Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 2 hours ago, r0cafella said: A super league only affects Uefa competition and as I've mentioned in pretty sure absolutely nothing would have changed for fans of those clubs who joined in. Realistic speaking football fans generally don't walk away from the clubs they support. Given they all pretty much signed up for this concept it goes to show they came to the same conclusion. Money is so deeply embedded into football and thirst for more knows zero boundaries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 9 hours ago, Heron said: Yes. In short. The clubs owners would, but not the match going fans. Just my opinion like. They'd far rather see Man United vs Barcelona in New York with an audience, making their theoretical-twice-the-amount because of a more "premium" product than see Southampton versus Man United in front of actual, multi-generational, lifelong members of the communities they are actually exist to represent. Vile. The problem with this is, matches played between Man U and Barcelona played in New York are not going to generate the same atmosphere they would at Old Trafford or the Nou Camp. There's a reason why the PL is the most popular football league in the world, and a lot of it is down to atmosphere and the pace of the game. Take it out of England and you risk losing that. I still firmly believe the ESL wannabe clubs want to have their cake and eat it. No British club will want to lose their PL status so this is where the PL officials actually have some leverage if they spent less time and money fighting unnecessary legal battles and reminded the cartel clubs where their success has been nurtured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 6 minutes ago, TRon said: The problem with this is, matches played between Man U and Barcelona played in New York are not going to generate the same atmosphere they would at Old Trafford or the Nou Camp. There's a reason why the PL is the most popular football league in the world, and a lot of it is down to atmosphere and the pace of the game. Take it out of England and you risk losing that. I still firmly believe the ESL wannabe clubs want to have their cake and eat it. No British club will want to lose their PL status so this is where the PL officials actually have some leverage if they spent less time and money fighting unnecessary legal battles and reminded the cartel clubs where their success has been nurtured. Covid was the perfect proof of that. The game itself was different due to lack of atmosphere, they were like training games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 8 hours ago, r0cafella said: A super league only affects Uefa competition and as I've mentioned in pretty sure absolutely nothing would have changed for fans of those clubs who joined in. Realistic speaking football fans generally don't walk away from the clubs they support. Given they all pretty much signed up for this concept it goes to show they came to the same conclusion. Money is so deeply embedded into football and thirst for more knows zero boundaries. I agree, and I tend to with most of the things you write on here mate - just can’t agree re the Ashley vs ESL thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 11 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Have to disagree. Ashley was a bad owner, a super league rips up a century and a half of history and wrests clubs from their communities Yup, these clubs have benefited from the structure of the football pyramid and the culture thats has evolved over the last 100 + years and now they want to either disband it or devalue it by playing in a shameless and souless NFL franchise league, to feed the social media idiots. All for a bit more coin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Just to be clear when speaking about a super league in referring to the proposal of ditching Uefa not ditching the premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 If only they could have sold a player in the summer when his price was at his peak, might have to settle for a lower fee now. That arrogant Chairman needs his knuckles wrapped off the board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 I mean, on one hand you have a chairman trying to push for more out of a deal that’s not there, but at the other end you have another owner who is publicly, and actively trying to buy a league rival club, and drop them. I wouldn’t be too pleased if I was a Palace fan right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 13 hours ago, Ben said: If only they could have sold a player in the summer when his price was at his peak, might have to settle for a lower fee now. That arrogant Chairman needs his knuckles wrapped off the board. Ohh that’s a nasty money trail, wonder how they passed fit and proper owner test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 Just now, Hudson said: Ohh that’s a nasty money trail, wonder how they passed fit and proper owner test. USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸 The same way Burnley did with their shitty leveraged Mormon buyout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 UEFA should give them a ban from competitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 So they artificially increased their income by €270m and got a €500k fine? An interesting test of UEFAs teeth. Whether we like it or not, the punishments handed down to Everton and Forest certainly brought the majority of PL clubs into line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 1 hour ago, Keegans Export said: So they artificially increased their income by €270m and got a €500k fine? An interesting test of UEFAs teeth. Whether we like it or not, the punishments handed down to Everton and Forest certainly brought the majority of PL clubs into line. Yeah they are famous for just giving out fines tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 On 17/10/2024 at 06:33, Stifler said: I mean, on one hand you have a chairman trying to push for more out of a deal that’s not there, but at the other end you have another owner who is publicly, and actively trying to buy a league rival club, and drop them. I wouldn’t be too pleased if I was a Palace fan right now. Fuck Palace fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 3 minutes ago, Novocastrian said: Fuck Palace fans. Tbh they are spot on with that banner unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 4 minutes ago, Slim said: Tbh they are spot on with that banner unfortunately. Maybe if the Saudi's bought the Pittsburgh Penguins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Without trying to be hyperbolic, I kind of feel the U.K. Government is guilty of all the things on that banner with the possible exception of beheadings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 7 hours ago, Lotus said: Without trying to be hyperbolic, I kind of feel the U.K. Government is guilty of all the things on that banner with the possible exception of beheadings. We could replace beheading with "support genocide" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 10 hours ago, Lotus said: Without trying to be hyperbolic, I kind of feel the U.K. Government is guilty of all the things on that banner with the possible exception of beheadings. Google "A British Royal Marine holding the severed heads of a young man and woman who were accused of supporting the Communist Party of Malaya in 1952". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Terrymac1966 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 Saudis should be screwing this lot never mind City Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 (edited) While I'm all in favour of slagging off Masters, didn't they need 14 clubs to vote for all of these rules? Edited October 22 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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