The College Dropout Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 Selling the building of SJP will be worth a lot though surely. Or the leasehold. Even at FMV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Selling the building of SJP will be worth a lot though surely. Or the leasehold. Even at FMV. Not really in the context of the kind of money we'd need to raise to make a difference to PSR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 7 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Not really in the context of the kind of money we'd need to raise to make a difference to PSR. Training ground? Hotels?? Im sure there’s something we could do. Has to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 24 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Training ground? Hotels?? Im sure there’s something we could do. Has to be. We could sell a couple of bridges🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teslact Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 3 hours ago, The College Dropout said: To front load revenues so they can spend now? Barcelona have been doing this for some time. Selling off future revenue for revenue right here and now. They sold future rights so they could buy the likes of Lewa and Gundogan. They are insane. Just like Shepherd did to try and land Rooney but we ended up with the likes of Boumsong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 7 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Who did Man City take action against? It was a Tribunal, not a legal action in a court of law. We are still actually awaiting the Tribunals final report. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 Someone explain it to me please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 2 minutes ago, Fatwax said: Someone explain it to me please. No one really knows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 Just now, duo said: No one really knows Bet the Chelsea quants do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 If fair market value is gone let's get some fuck off big sponsorship going Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 I think it's clubs don't have to prove it's fmv anymore, the PL have to prove it isn't. Though I could be totally wrong ha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 3 minutes ago, duo said: I think it's clubs don't have to prove it's fmv anymore, the PL have to prove it isn't. Though I could be totally wrong ha That is how I understand it also, the onus of proof has been transferred from the clubs to the Premier League. I actually think that this is a big change in our favour, more than for most clubs, because of our rich Saudi business links. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 Prove to who ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 34 minutes ago, madras said: Prove to who ? Liverp……… and prove should be in ‘ ‘ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 We’re approaching no excuses territory if we don’t get some deals announced soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 9 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: We’re approaching no excuses territory if we don’t get some deals announced soon. Or at least get some knocked back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 Interesting that the FMV tests for sponsorship etc will still use an independent expert assesor but the tests for shareholder loans won't... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 16 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: Interesting that the FMV tests for sponsorship etc will still use an independent expert assesor but the tests for shareholder loans won't... Is that because Shareholder Loans would be subject to market rates of interest and impacted by a clubs credit rating/risk? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 7 hours ago, madras said: Prove to who ? A five man independent panel consisting of Daniel Levy, Steve Parrish, John Henry, Joel Glazer and Josh Kroenke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 5 hours ago, timeEd32 said: We’re approaching no excuses territory if we don’t get some deals announced soon. I think it's getting to a point that we have to do something otherwise the question might arise whether PIF will remain committed to a project which won't deliver a trophy winning side. I know it is probably sacrilege to go there, but for the Saudis it would probably be a lot cleaner to sell up, then spend their gazillions on buying out Man U instead. Not sure how it would work in the short term with them also being close to the PSR limit, but long term that wouldn't be an issue as they are already probably the biggest revenue generating machines. Ironic that FFP is geared to such a way that locks in the cartel advantage forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 6 hours ago, timeEd32 said: We’re approaching no excuses territory if we don’t get some deals announced soon. We have already gone past that tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 Since these new rules came into place, we have already renegotiated with inPost. I think it’s fair to assume that the club will be on it. I know a training kit/ground sponsor is annoying people, but these are top business people at the club, there will be a reason why they haven’t done it yet. It’s not we are under Ashley, and Charnley anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 Wonder if any potential Saudi based sponsors are waiting until the Saudi World Cup 2034 is supposedly confirmed today? Would potentially have big Saudi companies looking to get their names out in advance of that, and the PL would have less argument about big sponsors with that event in the future? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 28 minutes ago, TRon said: I think it's getting to a point that we have to do something otherwise the question might arise whether PIF will remain committed to a project which won't deliver a trophy winning side. I know it is probably sacrilege to go there, but for the Saudis it would probably be a lot cleaner to sell up, then spend their gazillions on buying out Man U instead. Not sure how it would work in the short term with them also being close to the PSR limit, but long term that wouldn't be an issue as they are already probably the biggest revenue generating machines. Ironic that FFP is geared to such a way that locks in the cartel advantage forever. Said it before, I haven’t seen any evidence to suggest they want to significantly invest to take us to where a lot are expecting outside of putting equity in on the day to day. Playing Devil’s Advocate, there are a few KSA teams in the Club World Cup next summer. How much would they need to invest in us to get us to that level? What is the point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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