Lewis Miley

[Ben]

Absolutely crackers to be saying Miley is not up to scratch, he'll benefit every day working the our current midfielders 

[Menace]

Howe literally sees him in training every day and has said he has the world in his hands - yet some on here are writing him off. I honestly don't know what to say at times...

 

 

Edited May 11 by Menace

[AdoptedGeordieFromPompey]

Some of the comments in this thread blow my mind. We are talking about a teenager who was thrust into the first team at 17 last season and held his own. He's had a serious injury that curtailed his summer conditioning and he therefore had no pre-season. Despite missing out on that time, you can see he's had a growth spurt and looks to be filling out nicely. He has a good touch, very good eye for a pass and has shown composure when presented with chances in front of goal. He looks more of an 8 than a 6 but he's still finding his feet.

 

I've spent this season watching Freddie Potts week in, week out and West Ham seem to think he's got a real chance to be a regular for them in a year or two. He's 21 and I'm telling you now, Lewis Miley is already twice the player he is. 

 

A loan to the Championship where very few teams play a front foot aggressive style like Newcastle might be good for him to get his legs as it were but it won't really help with his development. If he's going to play 20-25 games at Toon next year, he's far better hanging around and being part of the squad as the 4th or 5th choice midfielder. If a loan was the best option, loan him to a top European club outside of the big big boys. He'd probably be a starter week in, week out at a top Dutch or Portuguese club or even second tier Serie A, La Liga or Bundesliga. He'd learn far more there than playing for Leicester or whoever for a season. 

 

Kid has a real chance to be a EPL regular and play for his country. I think his floor is solid EPL player but his ceiling is top top drawer. Just because he's not the best player in the world today at 19 (and only just turned 19) doesn't mean he's missed the boat. He would probably be starting for Spurs or MU at the moment and that shows not only his potential but also where he is right now in his development and just how good Joelinton, Tonali and Bruno are in keeping him out of the first XI.

 

 

Edited May 11 by AdoptedGeordieFromPompey

[J7]

54 minutes ago, Menace said:

Howe literally sees him in training every day and has said he has the world in his hands - yet some on here are writing him off. I honestly don't know what to say at times...

 

 

 

What do you want a football forum to be? Just parroting what the manager says?

 

Howe is never going to criticise a player and will always praise them and rightfully so. We can have our own opinions. 
 

Personally, to me it looks like Miley is lacking a bit of confidence. He hides a bit and especially when he first came on, was just always in a position where he was never going to receive it. He clearly has a chance of being a class player for us in the future though.

[Rod]

3 hours ago, JonBez comesock said:

Jamie Mclens performance was better anything Miley has ever produced v Arsenal

 

0-0 

 

Many moons ago ….!

 

Matty Longstaff V Man United looked great too 

 

Miley reminds me of both 

 

I played with Jamie everyday in training and he was a good player but not good enough for the first team 

 

Miley will end up in the championship but might get a premier league move beforehand(do ok) before being benched ….and will drift down to championship 

 

Most premier league teams have similar youth players that will drift in , then drift out and have lots of ability (but not that X factor) 

 

 

 

You talk a load of sense.

[Optimistic Nut]

Same view as last week for me. Send him to a top Championship team, let him get 40 starts under his belt and get used to being one of the best players on the pitch. When he comes back, look to push for a role in the team. Get a loan/free to cover as 4-5th choice CM while he's away.

[Ellis H]

Loads essentially wrote off Anderson who very quickly became a key player in a team chasing champions league football. He was older and had almost certainly shown less for us.
 

Like Anderson, Miley needs games and lots of them.

[Lotus]

Btw, if the plan is to give Miley 20-25 starts next year I’d definitely think he should stay. If he’s going to make 20-25 appearances from the bench for a few minutes here and there I’d think he’d be better off going on loan. 
Anyway, we’ll see when we see. 
Hope for the starts obvs.

[80]

10 hours ago, JonBez comesock said:

Jamie Mclens performance was better anything Miley has ever produced v Arsenal

 

0-0 

 

Many moons ago ….!

Ha, that takes me back. Crazy what eventually became of him pretty shortly afterwards.

[timeEd32]

10 hours ago, joeyt said:

 

It's not a pefect comparison but they've both played the same amount of games in the Prem

 

Miley would beneift from a loan in the Championship but it doesn't look like we'll be able to do that

 

This isn't even true and even if it were it's grossly misleading.

 

Wharton has 31 PL starts with 2500 minutes played, plus another 800 minutes in domestic cups. He also had two Championship seasons at Miley's age accounting for another 3,000 minutes played.

 

Miley has half as many PL starts with 1500 minutes and also around 800 cup minutes (including CL). We're probably 12-18 months away from being able to make a fair comparison to current Wharton and he'll still be younger than Wharton is now.

[r0cafella]

In an ideal world he'd definitely be loaned out but sadly we don't live in that world.

 

longy looks to be done, and Willock should probably be moved on, if we do that and let Miley go out on loan we would need 3 central midfielders which I just don't see happening.

[Benwell Lad]

I wonder how many times Eddie Howe, the guy working with Miley and his development day on day, has to say he's not going anywhere before it sinks in.

Of course he's behind the BTJ trilogy, so are most PL midfielders  not just this 18 year old. He's arguably next in line.

Yes, he's not yet freely showing what he can do in the last third in his limited game time, but he comes on with clear instructions and carries them out very competently.

Yesterday the game was turning against us and they were breaking at will and dominating the game. He was brought on as an extra midfield body to try and break them up and that's what he did.

As a reminder of what he can do in the final third, even in his limited domestic game time, he has come up with three crucial goals, all at key moments in games, not the injury time 5th goal in a 5-0 win. He can pick out the killer pass when it's on, clearest example yet being the one he set up for Izak last season. He was pretty competent against PSG and Dortmund as well in big pressure games.

His time is coming and apart from the fact that he's developing quite nicely in our squad, the anticipated number of games next season means he will stay here.

[Sempiternal]

He’s a 10/AM and played there when he was an academy player. It’s unfortunate as we don’t use one, and his off the ball work is not really there to play the way we do. 

[Coffee_Johnny]

Forget the speculation on how he compares and how he will develop, that nut on Caicedo should get him an improved contract in itself. 

[Sempiternal]

Strong heed definitely a plus point. 

[80]

22 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Forget the speculation on how he compares and how he will develop, that nut on Caicedo should get him an improved contract in itself. 

Was funny how utterly unbothered he was in contrast

[Hanshithispantz]

 

This was Rodri on FIFA when he was 20. Now I'm not using FIFA scouts as some authority, but he obviously wasn't pulling up trees at Miley's age and even older.

 

I think Miley will play a similar role when he fills out too.

 

 

Edited May 12 by Hanshithispantz

[Danh1]

17 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I can’t agree with the comments giving him high praise nor criticism tbh.  Looked ok, nothing of note, game passed him by a wee bit, but there were little hints of the lad’s talent from time to time

This is it for me. Seems like there always needs to be an extreme opinion one way or the other. Not necessarily on here but with football in general, I’m probably guilty of it in some aspects 

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, Benwell Lad said:

I wonder how many times Eddie Howe, the guy working with Miley and his development day on day, has to say he's not going anywhere before it sinks in.

Of course he's behind the BTJ trilogy, so are most PL midfielders  not just this 18 year old. He's arguably next in line.

Yes, he's not yet freely showing what he can do in the last third in his limited game time, but he comes on with clear instructions and carries them out very competently.

Yesterday the game was turning against us and they were breaking at will and dominating the game. He was brought on as an extra midfield body to try and break them up and that's what he did.

As a reminder of what he can do in the final third, even in his limited domestic game time, he has come up with three crucial goals, all at key moments in games, not the injury time 5th goal in a 5-0 win. He can pick out the killer pass when it's on, clearest example yet being the one he set up for Izak last season. He was pretty competent against PSG and Dortmund as well in big pressure games.

His time is coming and apart from the fact that he's developing quite nicely in our squad, the anticipated number of games next season means he will stay here.

He's well off it in Eddie's own regard too though. That's not going to help his development.

 

He has the right team around him though. And a pre-season will do wonders. Hall learnt it quickly. Hall became an Eddie Howe player, Barnes too - by becoming that split second more aggressive in their play.

[Roids]

He's 19, not everyone is going to be Cesc or even Jude to a lesser extent. It's extremely hard to be ready as a CM at that age.

He clearly has talent, needs time to develop. More playing time/loan out (feeder club pls) would help massively.

[Boo Boy]

Miley should have had an assist yesterday until Barnes decided to have a first touch like a blacksmith

[Ikon]

Composed and cool and really helped us to keep the ball in possession. Never looked like a struggle for him to allow us to retain the ball. 

[The College Dropout]

Just now, Ikon said:

Composed and cool and really helped us to keep the ball in possession. Never looked like a struggle for him to allow us to retain the ball. 

He’s great at that.  But he needs to show more for me.  Neat and tidy on the ball that’s it. He’s a big lad now, sometimes run with it. 
 

Overall as you say composed on the ball. Helped tick things over. Didn’t make a Meaningful impact tho 

[Optimistic Nut]

Should be looking at Rice and thinking he could do that. It's why I think a season in The Championship where he's going to technically be one of the best in the league will give him a chance to gain the confidence to play like that. 

 

 

Edited May 18 by Optimistic Nut

[The College Dropout]

9 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Should be looking at Rice and thinking he could do that. It's why I think a season in The Championship where he's going to technically be one of the best in the league will give him a chance to gain the confidence to play like that. 

 

 

 

I need to see something different from him mentally. Maybe it will come one day.