Match Atmosphere

[SteV]

14 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

It’s worth remembering that (I think) your ticket opens any turnstile and you can freely walk around the whole ground once you’re in. 

Can anybody actually confirm this?

 

I’ve heard it numerous times, but never from someone who’s actually tried a different turnstile to what they’re supposed to.

 

Would be a very handy thing to know if it is true.

[bobbydazzla]

 

1 minute ago, SteV said:

Can anybody actually confirm this?

 

I’ve heard it numerous times, but never from someone who’s actually tried a different turnstile to what they’re supposed to.

 

Would be a very handy thing to know if it is true.

 

I’ve done it this season and got in fine

 

Used to do it with the old ticket scanners too 

 

Look for the shortest queue and just dive in 

[SteV]

1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

 

I’ve done it this season and got in fine

 

Used to do it with the old ticket scanners too 

 

Look for the shortest queue and just dive in 

?

 

Right, I’m gonna give it a go.

[Bellis80]

23 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I’ve still never queued to get in for more than about 2 minutes. 
 

It’s worth remembering that (I think) your ticket opens any turnstile and you can freely walk around the whole ground once you’re in. 
 

Guess it’s the top tier that has queues since you can’t walk up when inside? 

What time are you getting there? We walk up by the East stand and the Gallowgate corner and all of the East Stand and Leazes corner are massive queues.

 

East Stand always used to have a bit of a queue but never used to be a queue Leazes corner. Is now though and it’s getting worse every week rather than better.

[bobbydazzla]

Gallowgate end of the Milburn also has big queues. East side of Gallowgate is worse though 

 

Only part of ground I’ve been to this season where I wasn’t queuing for a minimum of 10-15 mins was Leazes East Stand corner 

 

And I’ve been getting there 30 mins before kick off 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2023 by bobbydazzla

[Whitley mag]

1 hour ago, NUFC91 said:

 

Exactly, why is this not highest on the agenda. If the owner has made a comment trust should be all over it pushing for further standing in leazes etc. It as an absolute no brainer yet trust seem to think otherwise?

They’re not to concerned about the riff raff from their seats in the Milburn.

[bobbydazzla]

6 minutes ago, SteV said:

?

 

Right, I’m gonna give it a go.

 

Biggest problem will be finding a small queue. Anywhere round the south end of the ground is heaving 

[Danh1]

I don’t get how the queues are so bad though. If you have your phone ready and press it against the correct part of the terminal thing then it’s a swift process.

I’ve made a conscious effort to get in early so never had to stand in one, thankfully. I know not everyone has that luxury of being to get in early mind.

 

 

Edited November 26, 2023 by Danh1

[bobbydazzla]

1 minute ago, Danh1 said:

I don’t get how the queues are so bad though. If you have your phone ready and press it against the correct part of the terminal thing then it’s a swift process.

I’ve made a conscious effort to get in early so never had to stand in one, thankfully.

 

 

 

Last 2 games I’ve been with 2 x different ST holders and their phone got a “no entry” scan. Absolutely no idea why 

 

So they try scanning a few more times, it’s keeps going red, then they have to get back through the queue and go round to box office to sort it out  

 

And I’ve also been with a lad who got “no entry” cos he’d bought his ticket off a tout 

 

All these little problems add up to big delays when multiplied by hundreds of people 

[TheGuv]

2 hours ago, madras said:

I'm paying £245.

 

Last season of the freeze.

My mate doesn’t have kids or owt. He’s just been in the family enclosure for years. No idea how’s it been allowed to happen 

[Danh1]

Just now, bobbydazzla said:

Last 2 games I’ve been with 2 x different ST holders and their phone got a “no entry” scan. Absolutely no idea why 

 

So they try scanning a few more times, it’s keeps going red, then they have to get back through the queue and go round to box office to sort it out  

 

And I’ve also been with a lad who got “no entry” cos he’d bought his ticket off a tout 

 

All these little problems add up to big delays when multiplied by hundreds of people 

Aye that is true. Didn’t realise that it was happen and ignorantly put it down to user error. 
 

 

[madras]

8 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

Last 2 games I’ve been with 2 x different ST holders and their phone got a “no entry” scan. Absolutely no idea why 

 

So they try scanning a few more times, it’s keeps going red, then they have to get back through the queue and go round to box office to sort it out  

 

And I’ve also been with a lad who got “no entry” cos he’d bought his ticket off a tout 

 

All these little problems add up to big delays when multiplied by hundreds of people 

Is it an NFC or bar code thing ? I have to turn off the NFC on my phone and use the bar code thing.

[Wallsendmag]

3 hours ago, Danh1 said:

Don’t suppose you were in the block right next to the away end)?

 

There was me, my mate and some lad with his son next to us having a go at getting an armosphere going whilst the picnic and blanket brigade sat there filming the match in complete silence. 

 

We were in that corner but not the block nearest the away end. We were Block LWC L7A. It was dire. We're up there for Milan and I'm not looking forward to it at all.

[madras]

10 minutes ago, TheGuv said:

My mate doesn’t have kids or owt. He’s just been in the family enclosure for years. No idea how’s it been allowed to happen 

Yeah there was always little pockets there. A couple of rows in fron of us were a group of 4 lads, proabably late 20s, when the family bit opened 

[Wallsendmag]

1 hour ago, OCOCOL said:

20 mins - you were lucky. I gave a mate my ST in the gallowgate and went in L7 with my son and step son - we queued for 40 mins to get in and missed kick off. I don’t know what the answer is but there were loads who’s queued longer than us. Stewarding was a shambles they should  have opened the gates - tempers we’re getting frayed and it will end in trouble one match I reckon 

 

My brother queued for 45 mins to get into the Leazes End, and ended up sacking the 1st half off and went to the Strawberry instead. Had a pint then went back at half time and got in.

[bobbydazzla]

2 minutes ago, madras said:

Is it an NFC or bar code thing ? I have to turn off the NFC on my phone and use the bar code thing.

Dunno, both of them were using their own ST‘s and had never had a no entry before 

 

I presume the 3rd lad who’d got a ticket from a tout had just been ripped off with a ticket link sent multiple times and it wasn’t a tech issue 

[Wallsendmag]

20 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

I don’t get how the queues are so bad though. If you have your phone ready and press it against the correct part of the terminal thing then it’s a swift process.

I’ve made a conscious effort to get in early so never had to stand in one, thankfully. I know not everyone has that luxury of being to get in early mind.

 

 

 

 

Too many people just can't grasp the technology. Woman in front of me was holding the email ticket confirmation on her phone up against the scanner and wondering why nothing was happening.

[SteV]

2 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Too many people just can't grasp the technology. Woman in front of me was holding the email ticket confirmation on her phone up against the scanner and wondering why nothing was happening.

You can take the horse to water…

 

Having said that, with the ballot system, you probably are going to get people who are going for the first time using digital tickets, so a little bit understandable.

 

Still mind, if it was my first time using it, I’d probably get there early.

[madras]

I've mentioned before, we can go in through either of 4 turnstiles. There's always huge queues at 3 and about a dozen people at the other. It's not always the same turnstile but the 3 and 1 thing still works, no idea why as everyone using those turnstiles can use any of the 4 

[bobbydazzla]

Unrelated to St James Park but at Wembley the queues at our end were huge, but there were a few turnstiles with no queue, so I used one and was in within a minute

 

Crowd behaviour is a strange thing 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2023 by bobbydazzla

[huss9]

11 minutes ago, madras said:

I've mentioned before, we can go in through either of 4 turnstiles. There's always huge queues at 3 and about a dozen people at the other. It's not always the same turnstile but the 3 and 1 thing still works, no idea why as everyone using those turnstiles can use any of the 4 

shush man. its our little secret.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Pata said:

Two thirds of the stadium is season tickets, feels a bit weird that the dialogue around atmosphere always only concentrates on the ballot tickets.

 

 

 

 

Spot on. Individual tickets should be adding to it rather than being responsible for it. 

[Greg]

11 hours ago, NUFC91 said:

Well hopefully they'll do something about it. Stadium relocations and more standing is a must.

 

@Greg good timing for trust to raise points of further standing with club surely following comments from the owner?

Agreed. Survey out to members today, goes wider in 48 hours. Then to club. 

[bealios]

Isn't it just because we're successful and we're expected to win all of our home games now, no matter the opposition? I haven't been to the Etihad, but I have been to a fair few games at Chelsea during peak-Abramhovic era, and the atmosphere was shite. Same at Arsenal. Wasn't impressed at Old Trafford either. 

We just have less games now where the expected result is anything other than win. Not a massive coincidence that the best atmospheres in last year and a half have been Arsenal, PSG, Man Utd etc.? All with supporting reasons - PSG, champions league, Man Utd - revenge, Arsenal - final game of season after staying up/they were a bunch of twats this year. I haven't done as many home games as I would like this year, but not sure what other games have had great atmospheres and which have been particularly bad? I do admit thought that watching the game yesterday on the TV/stream - it sounded pretty quiet. 

I would say that from a personal point of view, having been going to 35 years or so, I have had more games stick in the mind for atmosphere since takeover than any others. But that might be recency bias, it might just be relief. PSG was the best atmosphere I have experienced, Arsenal on the last day of season was great. Man Utd at home after the Cup Final. Spurs the week after the take-over (for the first 20 mins or so). The other Spurs game obviously. Brighton at home last year. But I thought Leicester on the last day was dreadful given the circumstances (but probably because of the circumstances).

 

I really think we're being a bit harsh on the atmosphere thing - are we any worse than Arsenal, Man U, City, Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool etc.? And I don't mean comparing it against when they play Newcastle (where it seems recently the crowd would be fired up because nobody likes us now). Is the Etihad a cauldron when they play Burnley at home?

 

I just think so many things contribute to it - a lot of it comes from perceived injustice - and being an underdog. I randomly remember a game during the Keegan years when we drew with Millwall 1 - 1, losing for most of the game, it was either near Christmas or New Year, and we equalised reasonably late on after having a bad run from the ref. - still remember it now, but probably because of what mood I was in that day, how much I had had to drink and what was going on in life at the time!

  

 

 

[OCOCOL]

2 hours ago, bealios said:

Isn't it just because we're successful and we're expected to win all of our home games now, no matter the opposition? I haven't been to the Etihad, but I have been to a fair few games at Chelsea during peak-Abramhovic era, and the atmosphere was shite. Same at Arsenal. Wasn't impressed at Old Trafford either. 

We just have less games now where the expected result is anything other than win. Not a massive coincidence that the best atmospheres in last year and a half have been Arsenal, PSG, Man Utd etc.? All with supporting reasons - PSG, champions league, Man Utd - revenge, Arsenal - final game of season after staying up/they were a bunch of twats this year. I haven't done as many home games as I would like this year, but not sure what other games have had great atmospheres and which have been particularly bad? I do admit thought that watching the game yesterday on the TV/stream - it sounded pretty quiet. 

I would say that from a personal point of view, having been going to 35 years or so, I have had more games stick in the mind for atmosphere since takeover than any others. But that might be recency bias, it might just be relief. PSG was the best atmosphere I have experienced, Arsenal on the last day of season was great. Man Utd at home after the Cup Final. Spurs the week after the take-over (for the first 20 mins or so). The other Spurs game obviously. Brighton at home last year. But I thought Leicester on the last day was dreadful given the circumstances (but probably because of the circumstances).

 

I really think we're being a bit harsh on the atmosphere thing - are we any worse than Arsenal, Man U, City, Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool etc.? And I don't mean comparing it against when they play Newcastle (where it seems recently the crowd would be fired up because nobody likes us now). Is the Etihad a cauldron when they play Burnley at home?

 

I just think so many things contribute to it - a lot of it comes from perceived injustice - and being an underdog. I randomly remember a game during the Keegan years when we drew with Millwall 1 - 1, losing for most of the game, it was either near Christmas or New Year, and we equalised reasonably late on after having a bad run from the ref. - still remember it now, but probably because of what mood I was in that day, how much I had had to drink and what was going on in life at the time!

  

 

 

Agree with all this - there’s a lot of revisionism in football but imho PSG was as good as the Barca / Tino game.

 

Other notable games for me were David Kelly v Pompey (most vital result in our recent history) and I think the “Rafa love in” v Tottenham - last home gone as we were relegated that season.