Match Atmosphere

[RodneyCisse]

Is part of the problem not that most tickets sold to members are people having to sit alone?

[Heron]

9 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said:

Ironically more people leave early when we are winning 4.0 up then when we are losing games...

 

It might piss me off being at the end of the row but I'm sure some people only watch 60/70 mins of the game.

 

Only pleasing thing is they missed the two goals after half time

I really don’t get the drink element.

 

Are folk really that desperate to have a pint at half time that they miss the match and then disappear early to be the first one at the bar?

 

I get it more folk leaving to beat traffic to get home (perhaps) but the whole desperation for a beer is just weird.

 

The 90minute match is almost always more like 70mins of actual football so you're already getting only like 78% of what you've paid for. To then miss a further 10mins then you may as well be pissing an extra £10/£15 in the wind...

 

And yet most fans complain about ticket pricing (or not being able to get a ticket).

 

 

Edited Sunday at 09:53 by Heron

[bobbydazzla]

44 minutes ago, Heron said:

Christmas Jumper?

 

 

 

That’s the gadgie  

[Sima]

1 hour ago, CallumG6 said:

I was in top side of Gallowgate near strawberry corner and the atmosphere was OKish. 
 

Was there much coming from Leazes? 

 

[bobbydazzla]

48 minutes ago, Heron said:

On the whole the atmosphere was embarrassing imo.

 

Saturday 3pm, winning 4-0 after an up and down season and not a peep from like 47k people. It's like folk just want there to be something to moan about (and ironically here I am moaning).

 

I don't actually understand it if I'm honest - if you want to see the football, then you most likely (despite SJP having a lot of great views of the game) will see a better angle on the tele (with replays, etc.).

 

If you're going for the atmosphere, then surely you help make an atmosphere as well as take in the atmosphere?

 

Why else would you be at the game?

 

 

 

Because the alternative is being dragged round the shops by their lass, culminating in being forced to sit outside the changing rooms at Marksies for 90 mins whilst she tries on a billion outfits ? 
 

So sitting grumbling at the match is marginally preferential 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 10:22 by bobbydazzla

[NUFCDoog]

I think in part it stems from people being at the match just so they can say "they were there" too.

 

It's deffo caught on more in recent years, not just with us, but with this sort of high and mighty "look at me, I'm at every match me, what a superfan" posted all over twitter and wherever else for the likes, this sort of bravado that everyone must know I'm at the match. In truth they're not really that bothered about contributing to the atmosphere or anything, they're there and have shown off to their followers so anything else is extra. See it all the time on their social media "mad one away day following Newcastle" and it's just them pissed up on a bus at 8am in the morning, coked out of their head by 1pm, barely conscious by 3pm, but they've looked cool on their socials, match itself means nothing to them.

 

Obviously atmosphere wasn't great before the social media revolution so it's not all down to that, but it's getting worse now with all the tik tok lot and the likes.

 

 

Edited Sunday at 10:27 by NUFCDoog

[Heron]

24 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

That’s the gadgie  

Hi 👋 😇 🤣

 

 

Edited Sunday at 10:34 by Heron

[RodneyCisse]

9 minutes ago, NUFCDoog said:

I think in part it stems from people being at the match just so they can say "they were there" too.

 

It's deffo caught on more in recent years, not just with us, but with this sort of high and mighty "look at me, I'm at every match me, what a superfan" posted all over twitter and wherever else for the likes, this sort of bravado that everyone must know I'm at the match. In truth they're not really that bothered about contributing to the atmosphere or anything, they're there and have shown off to their followers so anything else is extra.

 

Obviously atmosphere wasn't great before the social media revolution so it's not all down to that, but it's getting worse now with all the tik tok lot and the likes.

Without doubt this too, go to the match, get your photo taken.

[Heron]

13 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

Because the alternative is being dragged round the shops by their lass, culminating in being forced to sit outside the changing rooms at Marksies for 90 mins whilst she tries on a billion outfits ? 
 

So sitting grumbling at the match is marginally preferential 

 

 

 

[JEToon]

When I go I probably don’t offer that much to the atmosphere.

 

I go with my son he’s still young in terms football going and gets pretty overawed by seeing players he adores, wants to take it all in etc, he likes to talk about what he is watching and ask about shape of the game and talk about why players go where they do etc. 

 

Can be 101 reasons people just don’t go and sing like. 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 10:42 by JEToon

[AyeDubbleYoo]

One stand is corporate and children, one stand is retired people who’ve been going for 40 years, the rest is people sitting on their own because you can only buy single tickets. It’s going to be hard to get any kind of consistent atmosphere in a normal game. Especially an easy game. 
 

We need real action on the pitch to wind everyone up at the same time. 
 

I was near to the corner so it sounded like the atmosphere was decent to me. A few people in east stand joined in.

 

The main issue I have is people leaving 10 minutes before the end of each half. But I guess if you need the toilet and a drink it’s your only chance to get it done before the second half starts. 

[bobbydazzla]

11 minutes ago, Heron said:

Hi 👋 😇 🤣

 

 

 

You’ve got some set of pipes on you pal ! 

 

I was stood right beside you, usually I’m in that general area but a couple of rows lower down  

[Heron]

3 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

You’ve got some set of pipes on you pal ! 

 

I was stood right beside you, usually I’m in that general area but a couple of rows lower down  

I wouldn't care I was a bit croaky yesterday so wasnt at 100%

 

I probably irritate a lot of folk tbf.

[Rod]

34 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said:

Without doubt this too, go to the match, get your photo taken.

In all my time supporting The Toon, 30+ years as a season ticket holder, I think that my photo has been taken once.  That was at the Veltins Arena, Gelsinkirchen, Germany.

[Choppy Chop Chop]

This is not a new problem complaining about our home support has been going on since the demolition of the Leazes End. The worst I can remember was towards the end of Kevin Keegan's management. My season ticket at that time was in the Gallowgate corner. We were suddenly surrounded by strangers.   No idea were the regular lads disappeared to,  replaced by a load of wingeing Durham mags I moved the following season 

[Scoot]

12 minutes ago, Choppy Chop Chop said:

This is not a new problem complaining about our home support has been going on since the demolition of the Leazes End. The worst I can remember was towards the end of Kevin Keegan's management. My season ticket at that time was in the Gallowgate corner. We were suddenly surrounded by strangers.   No idea were the regular lads disappeared to,  replaced by a load of wingeing Durham mags I moved the following season 

 

Have I stumbled onto RTG by mistake! 

[Choppy Chop Chop]

Just now, Scoot said:

 

Have I stumbled onto RTG by mistake! 

hahahaha wondered if anyone would pick up on the `Durham Mags` slur, To be honest I've no idea where they were from 

[samptime29]

Interesting to see what it's like Wed. Important night game. 

[pedro111]

I was in the Gallowgate west corner yesterday and there's a group of blokes stood throughout the whole game trying to get the atmosphere going. Fair play to them. We just need more standing sections where it is made abundantly clear that if you are in that section you should be singing. We'll get there in the end like.

[Keegans Export]

1 hour ago, JEToon said:

When I go I probably don’t offer that much to the atmosphere.

 

I go with my son he’s still young in terms football going and gets pretty overawed by seeing players he adores, wants to take it all in etc, he likes to talk about what he is watching and ask about shape of the game and talk about why players go where they do etc. 

 

Can be 101 reasons people just don’t go and sing like. 

 

Absolutely right, the key thing is getting like-minded fans together, then hopefully everyone can get what they want out of the experience.

 

The answer of course (in terms of atmosphere) is to have a large, ideally safe-standing area as @pedro111 says above. Unfortunately the only way that can happen is turfing out a load of season ticket holders and I don't think the club will do that. 

[NUFC91]

It's all down to relocating the fans, all 4 stands are the same where you need one stand full of fans who want to make a difference. I also noticed yesterday just how old our support is becoming, lack of young lads.

 

This is what the trust and fan groups should be pushing not other shit that makes no difference.

[bobbydazzla]

14 minutes ago, NUFC91 said:

It's all down to relocating the fans, all 4 stands are the same where you need one stand full of fans who want to make a difference. I also noticed yesterday just how old our support is becoming, lack of young lads.

 

This is what the trust and fan groups should be pushing not other shit that makes no difference.

Where I often go in Gallowgate East Corner there’s a group of lads, late teens and early 20’s I’d guess, who stand in a group together and all know each other

 

They all sing and can be a bit daft, but come across like nice kids who are just passionate about supporting Newcastle and having a laugh with their pals at the match  
 

Feels like they’re a relic from a bygone era 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 12:12 by bobbydazzla

[TheGuv]

Utterly depressing reading the same comments most weeks. The Club don’t give a toss - any opportunity they did have to really take heed and try and change the atmosphere was in the summer of 2023. On a ground swell of good will at the end of that season, they could have done something radical. Perhaps 2 or 3 standing sections in different parts of the ground (as was discussed by plenty at the safe standing forum). Instead they used it as a box ticking exercise and took the easy option. 
 

As was said at the time, plenty in the SC wanted to be part of an atmosphere and not make it. How many would have moved to be a part of something if it was in the Leazes L4 corner? Or the top of the Gallowgate? Not as many as elected to stay of course. With arguably one of the best views in the ground with the closest access to most of the pubs.

 

I ate my own words in the first game of the 23-24 season against Villa. The SC sounded majestic. But as the novelty wore off, plenty of those who didn’t relocate also now make up the numbers in the SC, leaving the same lads to keep the atmosphere going in a 1500 section of a 50,000 stadium.

 

As mentioned before, further up, the rest of the stadium is made up of a lot of people who just want to say “I was there” and an increasingly ageing demographic in the lower bowl along with the country’s largest family enclosure (which was brought in under Ashley to fill seats). No tough decisions have been made on that section either. Under SBR the family enclosure was 500 seats. If you wanted to go as a kid you had to sit elsewhere. I did. I loved it. I learned all the songs as we were 4 rows from the top of L7 next to the then Toon Ultras. I actually wanted to go to the game. We’ve seen plenty of comments in here in the past of kids at the game in the family enclosure, more bothered about their phone than the game. I’ve also mentioned before that I have friends still in the FE with STs at the age of 31. They’ve been in there since they were 14. The Club clearly hasn’t checked their age in a while. Go figure…

 

Add in the mess of the memberships and it’s no wonder the atmosphere is shite. And will continue to get worse. 

 

Even if we we were to rebuild SJP or move the ground I could see them placating us with a minimalist gesture (like they did with the Strawberry Croner), wipe their hands saying job done. That’s it forever. Get used to it.
 

Silverstone and the like frankly don’t care as long as they’re bleeding the fans dry for the sake of ‘PSR’. 
 

I’m happy to be proved wrong - but everything the Club has done over the last 2 years gives me absolutely no faith that they’ll listen to supporter groups and come up with a viable solution. 

 

 

Edited Monday at 07:55 by TheGuv

[Big River]

you're absolutely right, the club don't give a toss. they had a meeting about "atmosphere" and the only thing they took from it was better wifi connectivity and a half-time quiz.

 

it was poor on Saturday. back of the gallowgate and didn't hear anything directed from the SC  which is a massive problem in itself, the acoustics are absolutely shocking. when something does eventually get going, it's always out of fucking time because of the acoustical vortex created by the ghost of the gallowgate pigeon.

 

it's embarrassing the amount of people who seemingly only go to stand outside the bogs, watch SSN and neck 5 bottles of fruity cider

[OpenC]

Agree with all of that but the timing issue is not so much acoustics as just the whole speed of sound is not very fast issue. No amount of stadium design will fix that, not as long as the stadium has to accommodate a football pitch anyway. Gallowgate fans will be well used to the half second or more delay between seeing the away fans bouncing and the roar reaching them

 

 

Edited Monday at 12:46 by OpenC