Yankuba Minteh (now playing for Brighton & Hove Albion)

[madras]

4 minutes ago, thomas said:

doesn't deadwood tend to move late window anyway, as opposed to early?

One man's deadwood is another man's star signing.

[Beth]

12 minutes ago, Holloway said:

Miggy is hardly deadwood like, he'll have suitors in the 15-20m bracket 

Maybe £15m from Saudi if we're lucky. He's 30 years old and on the decline.

[Holloway]

1 minute ago, Beth said:

Maybe £15m from Saudi if we're lucky. He's 30 years old and on the decline.

What do you see him fetching from a non Saudi club ?

[Beth]

1 minute ago, Holloway said:

What do you see him fetching from a non Saudi club ?

10-ish.

[Beth]

1 hour ago, Yorkie said:

 

Don't think it's about being 'hard up,' it's about what represents good business. If we can turn a humongous profit on an asset we've invested pennies in, it's going to be tempting and, sadly, exactly the sort of thing we should be doing in the backward world of PSR.

 

The order of which we sell players is barely relevant, especially when it's going to be a huge bonus if we can shift the likes of Almiron at all (for any meaningful fee). Murphy shouldn't come into it imo; he's far too useful to sell for a negligible fee. 

I see the reasoning of selling him for 40 to generate 120 in terms of FFP, but it's a horrific way to have to go on.

[Holloway]

3 minutes ago, Beth said:

10-ish.

Think you're undervaluing him, we'll soon find out ( if he agrees to fuck off )

[Jonas]

Part of the factor in signing these players will be the revenue of selling them on which has done well for Chelsea. Some will come back to haunt and some wont.

The feeder club factor caused by ffp/psr is in effect. Read that Villa may have to sell £60m worth of players this summer - even if untrue, just being plausible is a farce.

 

Its not like the club or any club can just pick who they want to off-load first, its no gage on a player or their understanding of relative players if we sell one player before another, its never been that way and especially now with these f*cking rules. Its not 'madness' if we sell Minteh before Murphy/Miggy.

 

 

Edited June 8, 2024 by Jonas

[Mazzy]

So we need to get some money in but we don't ideally want to lose Minteh to anyone let alone a PL club.

 

If Liverpool are willing to pay £40M or so then surely there's a club in Europe out there willing to pay a loan fee of let's say £4M, assuming ofcourse Howe doesn't think he's ready for the first team. 

 

Add that to whatever we get for Dubravka, Miggy and Wilson and that's our summer sorted. If only it were that easy.

[Beth]

5 minutes ago, Holloway said:

Think you're undervaluing him, we'll soon find out ( if he agrees to fuck off )

The problem is he plays in the postion that is most affected by age, wingers rely on pace and stamina and that's the first thing to drop off. That's why the likes of Giggs and Ronaldo became more central as they got older.

[Conjo]

8 minutes ago, Jonas said:

Part of the factor in signing these players will be the revenue of selling them on which has done well for Chelsea. Some will come back to haunt and some wont.

The feeder club factor caused by ffp/psr is in effect. Read that Villa may have to sell £60m worth of players this summer - even if untrue, just being plausible is a farce.

 

Its not like the club or any club can just pick who they want to off-load first, its no gage on a player or their understanding of relative players if we sell one player before another, its never been that way and especially now with these f*cking rules. Its not 'madness' if we sell Minteh before Murphy/Miggy.

 

Chelsea could have had Salah & De Bruyne through their entire careers and gone on to become an even greater club than they are (trophy wise). Arguably the two of the best players in the PL the last 10 years. Look at the state they are in now.

 

If Liverpool are prepared to pay that kind of money for a 19 year old Minteh, that tells me they see him as a potential replacement for Salah. Would be ridiculous to sell

 

Yes we may have to sell some talents to comply with FFP, but hope the club is wiser than selling the type of talent that could potentially be a generational one who has shown nothing but progress and playing regularl top league football since he moved to Europe 2 years ago.

[Shak]

40m would allow us to do a lot in terms of incomings this summer. We're clearly pretty tight on PSR and if the rumoured price is anywhere near true it's a lot of money for a player who is still a massive unknown.

 

Yes, there's a chance that he develops into a top class player and we'll be gutted we let him go, but if it allows us to be aggressive in the transfer market this summer then the rewards likely will be worth the small risk of that happening.

 

Selling Minteh now for 40m doesn't give us an extra 40m to work with this summer, it gives us 100m+ when you factor in how all the amortization garbage works.

 

With so much up in the air in terms of how PSR will work in years to come and the potential for PIF to be allowed to use their resources more freely, giving ourselves more wiggle room now seems like the way to go if it's a possibility.

[Conjo]

I'd rather take a points deduction than selling Minteh to Liverpool tbh  Not only because he is one of the most highly rated talents in the world, but because its Liverpool.

 

 

Edited June 8, 2024 by Conjo

[toon25]

Genuinely think he could be a breakout star for us next season 

[Pilko]

Surely we should be taking a look at him in pre-season before we cash in as a minimum? £40m might end up being a steal for them for all we know. He's arguably done more than Gordon had when we paid a similar fee for him.

[54]

I get that Miggys out put wasn't great last season, but I feel he being disrespected and being spoken unnecessarily harshly here

 

[Beth]

11 minutes ago, Pilko said:

Surely we should be taking a look at him in pre-season before we cash in as a minimum? £40m might end up being a steal for them for all we know. He's arguably done more than Gordon had when we paid a similar fee for him.

Karma dictates he would be a world beater after offloading Carroll to them for silly money all those years ago........

[Jonas]

12 minutes ago, Conjo said:

 

Chelsea could have had Salah & De Bruyne through their entire careers and gone on to become an even greater club than they are (trophy wise). Arguably the two of the best players in the PL the last 10 years. Look at the state they are in now.

 

If Liverpool are prepared to pay that kind of money for a 19 year old Minteh, that tells me they see him as a potential replacement for Salah. Would be ridiculous to sell

 

Yes we may have to sell some talents to comply with FFP, but hope the club is wiser than selling the type of talent that could potentially be a generational one who has shown nothing but progress and playing regularl top league football since he moved to Europe 2 years ago.

That's the most extreme potenital outcome and an unreasonbly sure prediction considering all the other possibilities.

 

[Maggies]

Weird one this… if we sell Minteh and keep Almiron then bad business.

 

If we sell Minteh and Almiron and get a world class right winger in then great business.

[Unbelievable]

FWIW my match-going Feyenoord supporting mate thinks 40m is a ridiculously high fee for what he calls a “headless chicken”. I’d normally be loath to sell our potential future stars to rival clubs, but considering FFP is sadly a reality we have to deal with and there being no guarantee Minteh will become a world beater I think letting him go is the safer option if it allows us to invest a multitude of that through the profit it generates.

 

On another note, I hope the club continue to keep their eye out for young promising players like this. We need to get good players before their fee becomes too high for us, and we need the transfer income through developing players.

 

Whatever we decide to do if a bid actually comes in, we can’t really lose if a young player we brought in for relative peanuts is worth a multitude of what we paid after one year out on loan.

[Holloway]

44 minutes ago, Beth said:

The problem is he plays in the postion that is most affected by age, wingers rely on pace and stamina and that's the first thing to drop off. That's why the likes of Giggs and Ronaldo became more central as they got older

He's still got bags of stamina man, his energy is his greatest asset in a set up like ours . Not all players succumb to age stereotypes, look at Walker still being rapid as fuck in his mid 30s 

[Conjo]

13 minutes ago, Jonas said:

That's the most extreme potenital outcome and an unreasonbly sure prediction considering all the other possibilities.

 

 

It's not a prediction. Not sure how many more "potential" clarifications I could possibly put in to make that clear like

[HaydnNUFC]

23 minutes ago, 54 said:

I get that Miggys out put wasn't great last season, but I feel he being disrespected and being spoken unnecessarily harshly here

 

 

It hasn't been great for his entire time at the club barring a purple patch in October 2022 which has been proven to be exactly that. And 6 assists in 5 and a half years, man.

 

He's going to turn 31 next season and isn't good enough. Runs his bollocks off every week but has extremely little technical quality. That's nowhere near enough for a club that wants to be consistently in Europe.

[Conjo]

4 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

FWIW my match-going Feyenoord supporting mate thinks 40m is a ridiculously high fee for what he calls a “headless chicken”.

 

Seems like your mate is living on the stereotype he got plastered with when he first arrived at Feyenoord, rather than actually looking at what he accomplished later on in the season.

[54]

Just now, HaydnNUFC said:

 

It hasn't been great for his entire time at the club barring a purple patch in October 2022 which has been proven to be exactly that. And 6 assists in 5 and a half years, man.

 

He's going to turn 31 next season and isn't good enough. Runs his bollocks off every week but has extremely little technical quality. That's nowhere near enough for a club that wants to be consistently in Europe.

Maybe so, but he still offers an absolute huge amount to the way we play, and our press, and think he is hugely disrespected by the fan base, he's the perfect player to come on to keep the energy up around the 60th minute imo.

 

Also that purple patch was like 3/4 months of a season, not just a month, and without it we wouldn't have qualified for the Champions League.

[PauloGeordio]

Slot said: “He certainly doesn’t lack self-confidence. His willingness to give everything is enormous. When we see his statistics, it is really impressive. Minteh ran more sprint meters against Ajax in an hour than many players in the two games. He is incredibly fast."

Feyenoord had reportedly been open to a second loan deal for the 19-year-old before Slot was linked to the Liverpool job. But he conceded the winger would likely be playing at a higher level next season.

He told Rondo in March: "If you are that fast, it is a huge weapon. One action and he is gone, then you will not catch up with him again.

"I think that his choices are already improving in the final phase. The bad thing for us is that if his choices become really good, he will probably no longer play for us.”