Yankuba Minteh (now playing for Brighton & Hove Albion)

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, midds said:

I'm just sayimg there's an element of risk regardless of whether we get him out of the door this week or keep him and take the hit. Personally I think I'd take the hit, see how he goes and then make an informed decision. It'll maybe cost us a few points but it's what I think I'd do - if others disagree then fair enough

 

I understand man. That's fair enough 

[SUPERTOON]

23 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

What happens if we go with this and plug him into the first team as our right winger option, and he goes out there and performs poorly? Massive risk to take, no?

Aye, but I can’t see him being any worse than Miggy.

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

I gave you a like right until that last sentence as I’m a huge fan of Barnes, in goals alone over 8 premier league seasons he’s averaged scoring in 25% of total games and I’m sure assists are good stats as well.  You talk about premiere league hardened and he’s a great example of that.

The transfer never made sense to me. He’s a good player. But he’s backup. If things go well… he’ll remain backup his entire career for us. 
 

We have loads of options at LW too. 
 

It’s not a serious suggestion anyway. I’m just a bit frustrated by how we’ve built the squad. It’s quality. But not coherent. 

[Gawalls]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Aye, but I can’t see him being any worse than Miggy.

Again - we need to be able to sell miggy, we can’t just keep saying no to sell all of the only players we’re both getting bids for and are wanting to go.

[Fezzle]

29 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

What he’s saying is it’s three years from July since we spent £144 million in first January transfer window so that comes back into play.

Nah he admitted after that's not what he means 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, Gawalls said:

Again - we need to be able to sell miggy, we can’t just keep saying no to sell all of the only players we’re both getting bids for and are wanting to go.

I’m not saying anything about keeping or selling him. I was replying to a post saying it’s a risk keeping him in case he performs poorly. I was saying even if he does I can’t see him being as bad as Miggy.

[Gawalls]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

The transfer never made sense to me. He’s a good player. But he’s backup. If things go well… he’ll remain backup his entire career for us. 
 

We have loads of options at LW too. 
 

It’s not a serious suggestion anyway. I’m just a bit frustrated by how we’ve built the squad. It’s quality. But not coherent. 

You need two for each position and he’s a very valid second choice. He’s got us a few goals from the bench last season and without checking im sure some were probably cementing a win or at least a result.  I live in Leicester and people down here all were gutted when they had to sell.

[The College Dropout]

Our problem is that we can’t sell dead wood or squad players. 
 

On FM you could get a few quid for Longstaff and Almiron. In real life - nobody wants them. 

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, Gawalls said:

You need two for each position and he’s a very valid second choice. He’s got us a few goals from the bench last season and without checking im sure some were probably cementing a win or at least a result.  I live in Leicester and people down here all were gutted when they had to sell.

We have 3 at LW. And 0 at RW. 

[Gawalls]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

Our problem is that we can’t sell dead wood or squad players. 
 

On FM you could get a few quid for Longstaff and Almiron. In real life - nobody wants them. 

And the ones we have loaned out won’t leave - it will get better but will take time. Newcastles money men will be some of the best around and if they say this has to happen then that’s fine by me

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

Our problem is that we can’t sell dead wood or squad players. 
 

On FM you could get a few quid for Longstaff and Almiron. In real life - nobody wants them. 

People would take them, just not at a fee we would deem acceptable imo.

[madras]

3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Our problem is that we can’t sell dead wood or squad players. 
 

On FM you could get a few quid for Longstaff and Almiron. In real life - nobody wants them. 

I reckon we'll receive fees for both before the window shuts. Our concerns may be a bit more immediate though.

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

People would take them, just not at a fee we would deem acceptable imo.

Neither would fetch as much as a 19 year old with 1 years experience in the Eredivisie.  I’m not sure they would fetch half.
 

both are late window panic buys too lol. 
 

that’s the problem. 

 

 

Edited June 23, 2024 by The College Dropout

[Jaqen]

The fact we were interested in Olise at £60m gives me a lot of hope we'll go big on a quality RW option this summer. 

[KaKa]

6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Aye, but I can’t see him being any worse than Miggy.

 

I understand man, but can we really operate by this premise?

 

Also we really need to aim for someone that we anticipate being very good on that right side, and not just better than Miggy, which might still not mean they're good enough.

 

Even on that left hand side, i think part of the reason we went for Barnes, was because although the club rated Gordon, there wasn't any certainty his progress would be so rapid, and so Barnes was a more guaranteed performer output wise. I think Gordon was more of an upside purchase. With Barnes injury early on and Gordon's breakthrough season it worked out differently though. 

[STM]

2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Our problem is that we can’t sell dead wood or squad players. 
 

On FM you could get a few quid for Longstaff and Almiron. In real life - nobody wants them. 

 

I think noone wants a Longstaff or Almiron that we are trying to sell right now, likely because they know that we after extra coin.

 

I reckon there would be plenty of takers, if the price was right. 

 

The issue is that nobody wants to pay north of 20m for either player and rightly so, you might get someone younger who might improve for that price. Anything less than 20m and Howe will see it as not worth selling, mainly because then he has to replace them and therefore we are in a stalemate. 

 

I know some would flog them for peanuts but it's not smart business.

 

What I suspect will happen, is that we will get lower offers, after we've done our main business and that will force us to really think about whether we'd rather have the money and take the risk.

 

Personally, if we get anything north of 15m for either, we might have to take it, even if it leaves us short. 

 

Who would pay 15m for Longstaff? Anyone who wants to stay in the PL and needs "solid". 

 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, KaKa said:

 

I understand man, but can we really operate by this premise?

 

Also we really need to aim for someone that we anticipate being very good on that right side, and not just better than Miggy, which might still not mean they're good enough.

 

Even on that left hand side, i think part of the reason we went for Barnes, was because although the club rated Gordon, there wasn't any certainty his progress would be so rapid, and so Barnes was a more guaranteed performer output wise. I think Gordon was more of an upside purchase. With Barnes injury early on and Gordon's breakthrough season it worked out differently though. 

It’s just frustrating that we are going to seemingly sell a really highly rated youngster whilst still having Miggy and Murphy. ( I know no one wants to buy them before @Gawalls mentions it).

 

 

[STM]

7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

People would take them, just not at a fee we would deem acceptable imo.

 

5 minutes ago, madras said:

I reckon we'll receive fees for both before the window shuts. Our concerns may be a bit more immediate though.

 

Funny, I've just made both these two points.

 

1. We will get bids before the window shuts.

 

2. The fees will be lower than what we currently want.

[macphisto]

I wonder if we're a little behind the times as a fan base? Are we not focusing too much on developing young players with a view to them becoming 1st team players rather than a way to generate income and get around FFP which is equally important to the club? We will make a significant profit on Minteh which is what we want. With this model, we have to accept that some players will move on and become great players; just part of our model as to generate high fees there has to be a "risk" of our young players becoming stars of the future. 

[KaKa]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

It’s just frustrating that we are going to seemingly sell a really highly rated youngster whilst still having Miggy and Murphy. ( I know no one wants to buy them before @Gawalls mentions it).

 

 

 

It's certainly frustrating but at least every other club is in the same boat.

 

I think eventually things are going to be changed too, because it's not a great environment for young players to be moved around like this as pure profit pawns.

 

[Matt1892]

7 minutes ago, Jaqen said:

The fact we were interested in Olise at £60m gives me a lot of hope we'll go big on a quality RW option this summer. 

Apparently his release clause is £45 million. 

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, macphisto said:

I wonder if we're a little behind the times as a fan base? Are we not focusing too much on developing young players with a view to them becoming 1st team players rather than a way to generate income and get around FFP which is equally important to the club? We will make a significant profit on Minteh which is what we want. With this model, we have to accept that some players will move on and become great players; just part of our model as to generate high fees there has to be a "risk" of our young players becoming stars of the future. 

 

Yeah, we're only now being run as a normal outfit and so we're still new to this sort of thing.

[duo]

Be gutted if we sell this lad - totally seems our solution for RW

[Sibierski]

6 hours ago, gdm said:

Coz it will sting having him on our books and he ends up brilliant. 

We should in years to come have many more come through. Guy has had one good season in a very weak league. More chance he’s just your average player long term then some superstar talent that won’t come again this decade.

[gdm]

Just now, Sibierski said:

We should in years to come have many more come through. Guy has had one good season in a very weak league. More chance he’s just your average player long term than some superstar talent that won’t come again this decade.

It’s complete guesswork on either side of argument but as it stands he’s shown he has real ability be it one season in the Dutch league or not