TheBrownBottle Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Good to see that some things don’t change at NUFC, with the manager having to answer questions that other senior figures at the club really should be answering re Tonali. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Mazzy said: Whose the absolute donut of a journalist who asked Howe "does Tonali love the game?". How does that guy have a job. I'm not sure being a reporter should even be a paid profession if that's the type of bollocks they ask. It’s a stupid question because Howe isn’t going answer in the negative, but it shouldn’t be assumed that all footballers love the game. David F Batty, for one, couldn’t be said to love it - but he wasn’t a bad midfielder as a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It’s a stupid question because Howe isn’t going answer in the negative, but it shouldn’t be assumed that all footballers love the game. David F Batty, for one, couldn’t be said to love it - but he wasn’t a bad midfielder as a result. Ben White doesn't watch any football because he actually doesn't like football. Same with Carlos Tevez. Crazy. Edited October 20, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Erikse said: Ben White doesn't watch any football because he doesn't actually like it. Crazy. Great example. It can seem odd - but some of them wouldn’t bother at all if they weren’t actually superb at playing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, relámpago blanco said: It'll be more than 3 months mate. I'm guessing 12 Yeah, wishful thinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Good to see that some things don’t change at NUFC, with the manager having to answer questions that other senior figures at the club really should be answering re Tonali. What exactly would you have them "answer"? There's nothing public. Nobody (probably including the owners) knows the facts until the facts are established at an investigation. And even if they did speak now, the owners speaking now would prejudice any such investigation. I get that you want news, we all do, but there's just none to give. Howe only spoke about it because he was forced to at the press conference, and even then he's just said Tonali will get lots of love and support. We still know nothing more, and nor should we. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Just now, Chris_R said: What exactly would you have them "answer"? There's nothing public. Nobody (probably including the owners) knows the facts until the facts are established at an investigation. And even if they did speak now, the owners speaking now would prejudice any such investigation. I get that you want news, we all do, but there's just none to give. Howe only spoke about it because he was forced to at the press conference, and even then he's just said Tonali will get lots of love and support. We still know nothing more, and nor should we. I take your point, though it would have made as much sense for the club to have an additional representative in there blocking questions re Tonali other than re selection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Dr Jinx said: Mike was capable and had us barely surviving on a shoestring down to a fine art, the thin skinned cunt. Fine art? He got us relegated twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 minute ago, GideonShandy said: Fine art? He got us relegated twice. ‘I only shot myself twice while playing Russian roulette’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, GideonShandy said: Fine art? He got us relegated twice. It should have been every season with the lack of investment and apparent trust in absolute fools. He got away with it so many times. Made an absolute mockery of the promoted clubs who would invest heavily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Erikse said: Ben White doesn't watch any football because he actually doesn't like football. Same with Carlos Tevez. Crazy. Isn't there a story that Ben White didn't know who Patrick Viera was as he never really watched football growing up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: Isn't there a story that Ben White didn't know who Patrick Viera was as he never really watched football growing up? Must be a bugger for him to mark someone " Right Ben, I want you to stick close to Anthony Gordon"......"Who boss ?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Chris_R said: What exactly would you have them "answer"? There's nothing public. Nobody (probably including the owners) knows the facts until the facts are established at an investigation. And even if they did speak now, the owners speaking now would prejudice any such investigation. I get that you want news, we all do, but there's just none to give. Howe only spoke about it because he was forced to at the press conference, and even then he's just said Tonali will get lots of love and support. We still know nothing more, and nor should we. The club has released a statement in support, Howe in his presser has reinforced it, don't see the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannybagoftudor Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 My feeling is that for fan base's forgiveness - Sandro needs to reach out to us and say sorry and he will do better. I know it sounds trite but I think an admission of guilt and an acceptance of his punishment would really cement him in our thoughts. The platitudes from Eddie and his agent are not enough - IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, cannybagoftudor said: My feeling is that for fan base's forgiveness - Sandro needs to reach out to us and say sorry and he will do better. I know it sounds trite but I think an admission of guilt and an acceptance of his punishment would really cement him in our thoughts. The platitudes from Eddie and his agent are not enough - IMHO. Can’t see that happening until theres a ban/resolution in place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 I don’t think forgiveness comes in until we are on the other side of this. Let’s see how it pans out - he’ll get a lengthy ban. If his first reaction isn’t to fly back to Italy and spend all his time there during the ban, and he shows his commitment on his return (I.e. no ‘I’m homesick’ requests to leave the club) then I’m all for full forgiveness. Until then, it is play it by ear time. Happy to give the lad the benefit of the doubt until then, but this has raised some serious questions about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I don’t think forgiveness comes in until we are on the other side of this. Let’s see how it pans out - he’ll get a lengthy ban. If his first reaction isn’t to fly back to Italy and spend all his time there during the ban, and he shows his commitment on his return (I.e. no ‘I’m homesick’ requests to leave the club) then I’m all for full forgiveness. Until then, it is play it by ear time. Happy to give the lad the benefit of the doubt until then, but this has raised some serious questions about him. God. After trying to be positive I just read this and realised that he also has the potensial to become one of the most hated men on Tyneside ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 38 minutes ago, Erikse said: God. After trying to be positive I just read this and realised that he also has the potensial to become one of the most hated men on Tyneside ever. I still hope not - I genuinely hope in a couple of years time this thread is a non-stop love-in re our superstar no.8. All outcomes are still on the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 4 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Great example. It can seem odd - but some of them wouldn’t bother at all if they weren’t actually superb at playing it. Assou-Ekotto always said he just saw it as a job and couldn't be bothered to watch or talk about football outside of his role in the team because it was like taking work home with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Eddie made the point that Sandro is young. That's something I feel I've lost sight of over the last few days. I know he's not that young by footballer standards, or young compared with many of the posters on here, but he's still young in terms of life experience and resources. It felt like a timely reminder from the great man to cut the lad a bit of slack. He's not committed a violent crime or (it seems) done anything that's actually corrupt. His life and/or career shouldn't be ruined by this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 42 minutes ago, BlueStar said: Assou-Ekotto always said he just saw it as a job and couldn't be bothered to watch or talk about football outside of his role in the team because it was like taking work home with him. No-one likes talking shop! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 8 hours ago, cannybagoftudor said: My feeling is that for fan base's forgiveness - Sandro needs to reach out to us and say sorry and he will do better. I know it sounds trite but I think an admission of guilt and an acceptance of his punishment would really cement him in our thoughts. The platitudes from Eddie and his agent are not enough - IMHO. He needs to learn how to say it first, at least when he comes back from his ban he’ll be all fluent in both English and Geordie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bally21 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 12 hours ago, Erikse said: Assuming he will be out for 12 months, lets try to look at it from the hyperpositive perspective: Lets say the spark was missing in the first months here because he had to leave Milan only due to these personal issues. Milan accepts our offer at a reasonable price, again only due to the circumstances. He gets a lot of love and support from the fans and the manager, which will give him tons of motivation to come back stronger, clear of the gambling addiction, and also wanting to repay the fans and the team + manager. In the short term it's a horrible signing in this case, but in the longer term we could end up with a hugely important player, which we possibly would never have gotten if it wasn't for this gambling issue. This is a lot of assumptions, just trying to see it from a different perspective. Obviously not ideal regardless, but there's still hope for a best case scenario if he gets suspended. Spot on. Could be the making of the lad as a Newcastle player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 This situ will place AC Milan into an unrecoverable position along with the Italian FA, further all Italian players are now going to be suspect , along with Italian transfers to clubs outside Italy well and truly collapsing, there's gonna be a massive fallout and I can see clubs elsewhere in Europe with Italian players going through them with a fine toothed combe. Milan may as well come clean about what they knew, things are going to get very sticky, wonder if his girlfriend has thought about ditching him and what did she know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 14 hours ago, Erikse said: Assuming he will be out for 12 months, lets try to look at it from the hyperpositive perspective: Lets say the spark was missing in the first months here because he had to leave Milan only due to these personal issues. Milan accepts our offer at a reasonable price, again only due to the circumstances. He gets a lot of love and support from the fans and the manager, which will give him tons of motivation to come back stronger, clear of the gambling addiction, and also wanting to repay the fans and the team + manager. In the short term it's a horrible signing in this case, but in the longer term we could end up with a hugely important player, which we possibly would never have gotten if it wasn't for this gambling issue. This is a lot of assumptions, just trying to see it from a different perspective. Obviously not ideal regardless, but there's still hope for a best case scenario if he gets suspended. I’m sure that’s the way the cloob and Eddie will look at it. Like Big Joe, Sandro rising from his own ashes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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