Menace Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 I'm still gutted about this tbh. He was really emotional when the crowd sung his name as well. Shame but I hope he comes back stronger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, duo said: I've gone through a rollercoaster of emotions since I first heard. From disbelief, to anger, to frustration, to disappointment. At the end of the day he ****ed up. He know's he ****ed up. He is only 23 - even after 12 months he has still most of his career ahead of him. Anger isn't going to achieve anything - all we can do is get behind the lad. Yep, he's one of us now. I've fucked up in my life enough to know people make mistakes and come through it. My major ones were in my late 20's and pretty much homeless through stupidity. I turned 30 and was pretty much homeless I think it's hard to remember exactly as I didn't have a smartphone as they were called then. Not because of gambling or addictions but just idiocy. Some people make stupid decisions, doesn't make you a cunt. I am doing a lot better now financially than I would have if I hadn't fucked up so much as once I got sorted I was so much hungrier to succeed, I'll happily work 12-14 hours a day now if I need to. I hope he comes back the same, a big point to prove. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Over the moon when we signed him, and having seen him play for Milan and even Brescia I've been frustrated with some of his performances. Really feel for him watching that video. Look forward to him returning better than ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Holmesy said: I just don’t agree it’s an Illness. I don’t agree that any addiction is. You have no choice if you get cancer and you absolutely cannot get rid of it through willpower and lifestyle changes. Same with pretty much every other genuine illness. The mere fact that you can stop being addicted to something if you make enough changes makes it not an illness. A character trait maybe, a weakness definitely but calling these things a disease just feels like an excuse. “It’s not my fault I lost the house through gambling, it’s an illness”. It kind of absolves them of responsibility for their actions. Maybe that’s harsh but I just can’t get on board with it. I have sympathy for them and I’m not suggesting it’s an easy thing to reverse but I just hate the rhetoric around it. You sound like a nice person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Not one for conspiracy theories.. But when everyone was thinking that Tonali was emotional about Ibra retiring, since he's a club legend, could he have known it was going to be his last game for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 52 minutes ago, STM said: Looks genuinely emotional. So proud of our fans for this. I slag them off plenty but I love them just as much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Ah, that video, man. If he had any doubt whether he was going to be supported, I think he got the answer. He’s one of us now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, Miggys First Goal said: Ah, that video, man. If he had any doubt whether he was going to be supported, I think he got the answer. He’s one of us now. I'll be honest I went from pissed to depressed when the news broke. He's 23 and clearly a good footballer with a whole career ahead of him. He royally fucked up, basically kicked the club in the nuts. That said, backing him like the good people of Newcastle did this afternoon is the right thing, on a human level and what would heaping scorn on him do? Very cool video and Trippier clearly backing his teammate like the leader he is. Awesome video and scenes at SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 There’s definitely something wrong with this picture. Tonali getting support from the crowd but having to walk past adverts for betting companies. Just the three on this one shot. It’s about time football ended it’s relationship with these companies and banned them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 In that video it’s clear to see his poker face needs some work though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Decky said: There’s definitely something wrong with this picture. Tonali getting support from the crowd but having to walk past adverts for betting companies. Just the three on this one shot. It’s about time football ended it’s relationship with these companies and banned them. There was a beer mat in my car the other day but it didn’t encourage me to drink drive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Good for you bro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, Gawalls said: There was a beer mat in my car the other day but it didn’t encourage me to drink drive. Why was it in your car? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, RS said: Why was it in your car? No idea, maybe let it there last time I was pissed 😊 moving my step daughters stuff out I reckon- maybe fell out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Howe has said it was his idea to have the player front and centre in front of the supporters and was pleased with the crowd's reaction. "It sort of came to me when we were doing our walk that I wanted him to be at the front, to see the love closer up," he said. "So it’s a big thank you from me to our supporters. That reception at the end was incredible and it was emotional. "Sandro is going through an incredibly emotional time and the supporters reacted how I hoped they would. I could feel the love between him and them and that will do him the world of good, he’ll feel much better. The hardest part is ahead, but it’s great for him to know he’s got the support of the senior management and the supporters, they’re the most important. He very much wanted to play and perform, for sure. There was no decision to make for me, I could see that from how he’s trained, so there wasn’t a part of me that went, “He’s not ready to play football”. it was just about introducing him at the right time, and I thought he did well after he came on. "Hopefully this is a step forward to him for moving forward in his life. He’s very level. Very rarely do you outwardly see the emotion, but you know it’s in there. He’s a private guy and keeps things in check really well. I’m sure he’s massively boosted by today." ❤️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 33 minutes ago, Gawalls said: In that video it’s clear to see his poker face needs some work though. it’s the only face he’s got. It’s like Blue Steel in Zoolander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: it’s the only face he’s got. It’s like Blue Steel in Zoolander Never seen zoolander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 The way everyone at the club has pulled around him has swayed my attitude towards it all. I think I was reacting abit harshly before thinking about how it would affect the clubs image, he's deceived us etc. Compared to what some of these other dickhead footballers get upto, it's a minor. Bans for gambling, but not for blatant abuse of your Mrs. (Greenwood). It's a funny old game. Seeing him in that video, with Trippier putting his arm round him made it clear as day for me. He hates fuckin Sunderland! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Howe has said it was his idea to have the player front and centre in front of the supporters and was pleased with the crowd's reaction. "It sort of came to me when we were doing our walk that I wanted him to be at the front, to see the love closer up," he said. "So it’s a big thank you from me to our supporters. That reception at the end was incredible and it was emotional. "Sandro is going through an incredibly emotional time and the supporters reacted how I hoped they would. I could feel the love between him and them and that will do him the world of good, he’ll feel much better. The hardest part is ahead, but it’s great for him to know he’s got the support of the senior management and the supporters, they’re the most important. He very much wanted to play and perform, for sure. There was no decision to make for me, I could see that from how he’s trained, so there wasn’t a part of me that went, “He’s not ready to play football”. it was just about introducing him at the right time, and I thought he did well after he came on. "Hopefully this is a step forward to him for moving forward in his life. He’s very level. Very rarely do you outwardly see the emotion, but you know it’s in there. He’s a private guy and keeps things in check really well. I’m sure he’s massively boosted by today." ❤️ "Murphy said after the players have rallied around Tonali and also praised the fans for the "great love" they showed him. "It shows what a family club we are," he said. "We've been supporting him all through the week and the fans showed great love for him today. Gordon added that it has been a hard time for Tonali, but his team-mates can only support him. "The fans today when Sandro came on and even before that were incredible," he said. "They always support their players. We can only support him, we understand it is a very difficult time for him and his family."" Love this too, whole club has his back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 If those closer than me to the situation have confidence in him, it makes it easier for me to respond in kind, certainly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 hours ago, relámpago blanco said: Yep, he's one of us now. I've fucked up in my life enough to know people make mistakes and come through it. My major ones were in my late 20's and pretty much homeless through stupidity. I turned 30 and was pretty much homeless I think it's hard to remember exactly as I didn't have a smartphone as they were called then. Not because of gambling or addictions but just idiocy. Some people make stupid decisions, doesn't make you a cunt. I am doing a lot better now financially than I would have if I hadn't fucked up so much as once I got sorted I was so much hungrier to succeed, I'll happily work 12-14 hours a day now if I need to. I hope he comes back the same, a big point to prove. You will be ok. You have the right mindset. Take care and good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Rod said: You will be ok. You have the right mindset. Take care and good luck. Yeah, I'm fine now, I have a great life that and thst was 10 years ago. Thank you though. Edited October 21, 2023 by relámpago blanco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 If Milan is his boyhood club, that clip is the moment he properly fell in love with this one. Eventually this kid is going to be great for us, he’ll walk over broken glass for this club when he has the opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Sandro is a Geordie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Reflecting on this some more. I'm starting to think that it is a bit messed up these lads are getting hit with long bans. The Toney one sort of felt the same. They obviously have a problem and need help to overcome it, but taking away the one distraction they have just doesn't feel like the right solution. Obviously if he was betting on anything that would call into question the integrity of the game like betting on his team to lose then yes a ban of some form would probably be needed but I just wonder the logic behind banning these guys for full seasons etc. I think the more this happens, there will be a change in perception of gambling and the punishments will change. Unfortunately for us and Tonali these sort of cases are still fairly new and he is likely going to be made an example of like Toney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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