54 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: The Mail reporting that the fee for this is actually £52 million. So thats €60m, others where reporting it was a €70m fee, maybe the €10m difference in the add-ons, and people reporting the higher fee was Milan's side trying to save face for selling their young starlet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 good article here from a statistical perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, Mahoneys Tache said: Beardsley was the rarest of beasts that had both. If he was South American or Italian or from anywhere but Benwell he’d have got more recognition than he did. *Longbenton Agree though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 3 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: HBA better than Robert? Sacrilege. (I’m also owld enough to have watched Ginola. And I’d have Robert in my XI ahead of him). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Those assists numbers look made up, think it was about half that for Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Yeah that's not accurate like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Those assists numbers look made up, think it was about half that for Robert I'm sure some places consider shots that have been tapped in from a rebound, or winning a pen as an assist. I'd not be surprised in the least if that takes him over 20. Might dust off the old Return of the Entertainers DVD tonight and count. Edited June 26, 2023 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 30 minutes ago, 54 said: So thats €60m, others where reporting it was a €70m fee, maybe the €10m difference in the add-ons, and people reporting the higher fee was Milan's side trying to save face for selling their young starlet? Some where reporting as high as £70/€80 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 33 minutes ago, Jonas said: . Too right. As good at tackling as he was nut-megging, scorer of worldies, creator supreme whilst having a 'water-carriers' work ethic. As highly rated as he is, it doesn't seem enough when you think about it. By far the best player I have ever seen in person (Beardsley). As you say, he had everything, even to the end of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, Dr. TC said: By far the best player I have ever seen in person (Beardsley). As you say, he had everything, even to the end of his career. Week in week out also. Very rarely had anything close to an off game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 hour ago, LFEE said: Week in week out also. Very rarely had anything close to an off game. Think Tonali will develop a shimmy that puts defenders on the deck? I had also forgotten his total mastery of the chip shot until now - maybe that's what Murphy was trying to emulate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dr. TC said: Think Tonali will develop a shimmy that puts defenders on the deck? I had also forgotten his total mastery of the chip shot until now - maybe that's what Murphy was trying to emulate. He deserved better pitches and better nets. He'd be so good in the modern game, literally looks and moves like Messi at 3:46 Edited June 26, 2023 by Mountain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 I think he's probably up there as one of the most underrated players of all time tbh. Whether it's Premier League, English, or just players in general, he was incredibly naturally gifted but also incredibly clever. He never got the plaudits he deserved even before he came out as a daft racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 This cunt signed yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, Dr. TC said: Think Tonali will develop a shimmy that puts defenders on the deck? I had also forgotten his total mastery of the chip shot until now - maybe that's what Murphy was trying to emulate. Always loved that goal against the scruffs, NYD 1985, 25 yards just passes it left footed into the bottom corner. Genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: He never got the plaudits he deserved even before he came out as a daft racist. Met him once at Central Station, he was with his wife. Was dead canny enough to take a photo. For context, I myself am Asian/Brown. So I have some level of hope he was just more of an ignorant byproduct of his time rather than a hateful man. (Not excusing it, like). Edited June 26, 2023 by Amir_9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I think he's probably up there as one of the most underrated players of all time tbh. Whether it's Premier League, English, or just players in general, he was incredibly naturally gifted but also incredibly clever. He never got the plaudits he deserved even before he came out as a daft racist. I like him even more now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 I assume we're waiting until 1st July then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: I assume we're waiting until 1st July then. I think so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I assume we're waiting until 1st July then. I would say that’s where the smart money is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, Mountain said: He deserved better pitches and better nets. He'd be so good in the modern game, literally looks and moves like Messi at 3:46 He'd be unreal in Howe's system as an inside left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 6 hours ago, Jonas said: When were talking about productivity I think were forgetting Ginola/Gillespie's constant supply to Ferdinand being the most prominent feature of our attacking in those days. Every time either had the ball on the flank it was a threat. Too right. As good at tackling as he was nut-megging, scorer of worldies, creator supreme whilst having a 'water-carriers' work ethic. As highly rated as he is, it doesn't seem enough when you think about it. It's easy to forget Gillespie, as he was pretty much a one trick pony. Worked at the time but he'd be easily neutralised now. HBA could do everything Ginola could do and more, but Robert had that cannon of a left that even Hatem didn't come close to. There's not many south paws in premier league time that have come close to the power and accuracy he was capable of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pormag Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Ginola wasn't that good, he only scored 6 goals i think. Ben Arfa was better but Robert was the best of the french left wingers for proper end product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Potentially unpopular opinion but it was Ben Arfa who failed Pardew, not the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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