WinstonFC Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Holmesy said: How do most people get rid of addictions? Through willpower and lifestyle changes, including therapy. Can you do that with cancer, parkinsons, MD etc? That’s why I hate the labelling! Your reading of my original post was me saying ‘they should just stop doing it and use some willpower’. Read it again, that’s not what I said. Lifestyle changes includes moving away from temptation, changing routines, losing friends etc. That’s arguably more important, but willpower is a huge part of overcoming addiction. Cancer, Parkinsons and MD arent curable. Addictions are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 33 minutes ago, Holmesy said: I completely understand how chemicals affect brain function. Ok, let’s use your argument - depression, anxiety, bipolar - all mental health illnesses where the sufferer has no element of choice, all centre around brain chemical delivery and disfunction. Addiction is the only so called ‘illness’ where there is an element of choice so I think it’s insulting to people with other contracted or inherited diseases when that comparison is made. I'm a recovering alcoholic and if a cancer patient said to me they were insulted I call my alcoholism an illness I'd tell them to STFU. Funnily enough, none of them have. I'm not sure that conversation has ever happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Hey everyone let's play illness top trumps! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, Tiresias said: Hey everyone let's play illness top trumps! I’ve got a shit elbow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 43 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: Thanks for providing your expert analysis He is right though you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tiresias said: Hey everyone let's play illness top trumps! Somehow, someone is way ahead of you https://www.presentindicative.com/products/deadly-disease-trumps#:~:text=A classic 'top trumps'-,instructions in a neat box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Holmesy said: How do most people get rid of addictions? Through willpower and lifestyle changes, including therapy. Can you do that with cancer, parkinsons, MD etc? That’s why I hate the labelling! Your reading of my original post was me saying ‘they should just stop doing it and use some willpower’. Read it again, that’s not what I said. Lifestyle changes includes moving away from temptation, changing routines, losing friends etc. That’s arguably more important, but willpower is a huge part of overcoming addiction. Therapy is considered a type of medical treatment btw. Hence = illness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, FLUMPO235 said: 100%, it’s like people who are dyslexic, ffs just learn to spell. or people with depression, just lighten up and pull yourself together. if I keep going I might get to a condition you or someone in your family suffers from. we can all disagree on footballing and many other things, but the arrogance of you to decided the whole medical profession and decades of research are wrong… Jesus wept, you really are a rancid, pathetic individual. Whoa there, calm down man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rod said: He is right though you know. Just need Beth to complete this little trio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, Shearergol said: Just need Beth to complete this little trio Whatever that means. Is that you trying to be humorous? Because you're not very good at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 This thread's taken some powerful turns the last week or so. Keep at it gents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, Rod said: Whatever that means. Is that you trying to be humorous? Because you're not very good at it. Don’t think so. Just not surprising seeing who is posting these opinions. Because things used to be better in your day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Rod said: He is right though you know. Antidepressants are certainly overprescribed, but is that the medical associations or more on individual doctors? Big difference to make. Edited October 21, 2023 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, Shearergol said: Don’t think so. Just not surprising seeing who is posting these opinions. Because things used to be better in your day. A little bit better (humorous I mean). So I know nowt because I'm in my sixties? Is that what you are implying? Even funnier would have been to call me an old fart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said: Antidepressants are certainly overprescribed, but is that the medical associations or more on individual doctors? Big difference to make. Now that is a sensible post. A post that makes you think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Rod said: A little bit better (humorous I mean). So I know nowt because I'm in my sixties? Is that what you are implying? Even funnier would have been to call me an old fart. No, I’m not claiming you “know nowt” because it’s all opinion isn’t it, not fact. We just have differing opinions, nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: No, I’m not claiming you “know nowt” because it’s all opinion isn’t it, not fact. We just have differing opinions, nothing more. "Because things used to be better in your day". I have a smart phone, tablet and all that you know. I even have a Kindle. You see that's humour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: I love these! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Delighted with the reception he got from the crowd today. Neat and tidy when he came on as well, nothing too much to do really. Wouldn't mind seeing him start against Dortmund alongside Bruno and Longstaff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, Tiresias said: Hey everyone let's play illness top trumps! Busted disc at L5-S1 that still gives me sciatica three years later. Makes me glad to be alive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hhtoon said: So.....how did Sandro do today? Won a grand on an NUFC 4-0 home win Edited October 21, 2023 by NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, NUFC said: Won a grand on an NUFC 4-0 home win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Looks genuinely emotional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) He does. Edited October 21, 2023 by duo fair point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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