SUPERTOON Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Palace wanting 50 million for Andersen, think we can rule that one out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Reading between the lines it could be a legit ploy to overpay for Liverpools castoffs, then come in for our assets at inflated prices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon88 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: If we really are constrained by FFP, I wouldn’t necessarily expect LW and RB to be the 2 position we target next. There’s more money, it’s just these are the deals that are active right now. ASM has always been seen as the key to unlocking the rest of the window. Him sold, allows Barnes & Livramento to come in and our accounts look good, as has been stated by Matt. We then target LB & CB. Transfers are about timing as well. A LB might be a priority, but transfers don’t always come in order, due to a number of reasons. Anderson, like Brennan Johnson, we won’t be targetting. PL prices are ridiculous, hence why we’ve targeted Championship clubs for Barnes & Livramento. Edited July 16, 2023 by Toon88 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) FFP is only an issue if we buy poorly. I could see why Maxi staying or going would determine us going for Barnes as they would be competing for the same position, but we could spend another 60m sorting our defence out and not be in danger of breaking FFP. I just cannot see how Maxi effects that. If we can get them at our price you would imagine we will, regardless of any sales. EDIT: We'll sign Livramento (if we're after him) when Southampton break on the price. Edited July 16, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: If we really are constrained by FFP, I wouldn’t necessarily expect LW and RB to be the 2 position we target next. It is potentially both, that we have money earmarked for certain positions but didn’t expect Barnes to be available and to move for Livramento this summer. Selling ASM helps with FFP for both, plus you wouldn’t sign Barnes with ASM still here. We had the money for Tonali and was still looking at the Hungarian guy that went to Liverpool, so potentially money is still there if we can find the right player to play on the right. Edited July 16, 2023 by Matt1892 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, Tiotes Witch Doctor said: LB and CB should be absolute priorities, even if we just got those we would still be competitive next season, but without 1 or 2 more attacking players, particularly RW I think we will struggle to compete on all fronts. We should be looking to offload: Maxi 30-40 mil Lascelles 10-15 mil Darlow 5 mil Obviously the likes of Hendrick and Lewis should just be given away to clear the wage bill at this point. Maxi - £50 Dubravka, Lascelles, Darlow, Lewis - £25m for the lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Maxi - £50 Dubravka, Lascelles, Darlow, Lewis - £25m for the lot. We can’t lose Dubs and Darlow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Plus you're not getting £25 million for that lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, ponsaelius said: Plus you're not getting £25 million for that lot Dubs + lascelles is easily £25m in this market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: We can’t lose Dubs and Darlow. Most clubs have one first-choice, a backup, then a third keeper who'll never play. Pope is clear number 1 and we've just given Karius and Gillespie deals. I doubt Dubravka and Darlow will stay. We might get £7m for Dubravka but can see Darlow being loaned again and us paying a chunk of the wage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We can’t lose Dubs and Darlow. we could lose Darlow and bring in a Scott Carson type for the Third choice. will dibs be happy sitting on the bench for another season if say Inter come in for him? At £15m for the 2 less £3-4m for the third choice it becomes a conversation point imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, BoSelecta said: Dubs + lascelles is easily £25m in this market. Genuine question because I've not really been monitoring any transfer activities that don't include us but what's that based on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, BoSelecta said: Dubs + lascelles is easily £25m in this market. I think Dubravka's failed Mancunian adventure rules out any sort of meaningful fee. You'd expect a small fee for Lascelles but we're in a very poor bargaining position for the likes of Lewis, Fraser, Darlow, Hayden etc because we've made it absolutely clear that they're expendable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Worth a watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Most clubs have one first-choice, a backup, then a third keeper who'll never play. Pope is clear number 1 and we've just given Karius and Gillespie deals. I doubt Dubravka and Darlow will stay. We might get £7m for Dubravka but can see Darlow being loaned again and us paying a chunk of the wage. Would you feel comfortable if Pope got injured, relying on Karius for any length of time ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BoSelecta said: Dubs + lascelles is easily £25m in this market. It isn't like. Dubravka is an injury prone 34 year old goalie and Lascelles has a year left on his deal. Just because it's what you want it to be doesn't mean that's what it is. If we could get £25 million for those two they'd already be long, long gone. Time and time again it is clear we more or less can't give our fringe players away because they're crap and yet people think it's football manager. If we could sell people like that we wouldn't be considered cashing in on a genuine asset like Maxi. Edited July 16, 2023 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Would you feel comfortable if Pope got injured, relying on Karius for any length of time ? Doesn't matter what I feel, though I do like him. Those are the facts though unless we sell one of him and Gillespie which won't happen a month after they've just extended a contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Would you feel comfortable if Pope got injured, relying on Karius for any length of time ? Yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Doesn't matter what I feel, though I do like him. Those are the facts though unless we sell one of him and Gillespie which won't happen a month after they've just extended a contract. I don’t think Gillespie getting a new deal means anything tbh. Similar to Dummett getting a new deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) Every club in the land is dealing with FFP and financial controls. Players with potential or age on their side (and low wages) will continue to go for big money, but aging average players on big contracts you will just not be getting fees for anymore. Every single club has to operate in a landscape where players are financial assets to be bought and sold with the future in mind. It's honestly a bloody miracle that we had Forest give us money for Wood and a nominal fee for Shelvey in this market. Edited July 16, 2023 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 We should only be looking register 3 keepers, like. Not sure why we'd give him a contract to be u21 keeper? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: We should only be looking register 3 keepers, like. Not sure why we'd give him a contract to be u21 keeper? He’s very popular around the training ground and won’t be on much at all. Isn’t he home grown as well ? Not sure if that means much regarding registration. Edited July 16, 2023 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Quite strange how the Darlow rumours have just died, was linked to Bournemouth, Hull and Boro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, Nucasol said: Quite strange how the Darlow rumours have just died, was linked to Bournemouth, Hull and Boro. It’s the same every window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: It’s the same every window Another one we undoubtedly put on wages not befitting of his talent and resale value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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