Keegans Export Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, BoSelecta said: Dubs + lascelles is easily £25m in this market. Genuine question because I've not really been monitoring any transfer activities that don't include us but what's that based on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, BoSelecta said: Dubs + lascelles is easily £25m in this market. I think Dubravka's failed Mancunian adventure rules out any sort of meaningful fee. You'd expect a small fee for Lascelles but we're in a very poor bargaining position for the likes of Lewis, Fraser, Darlow, Hayden etc because we've made it absolutely clear that they're expendable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Worth a watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Most clubs have one first-choice, a backup, then a third keeper who'll never play. Pope is clear number 1 and we've just given Karius and Gillespie deals. I doubt Dubravka and Darlow will stay. We might get £7m for Dubravka but can see Darlow being loaned again and us paying a chunk of the wage. Would you feel comfortable if Pope got injured, relying on Karius for any length of time ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BoSelecta said: Dubs + lascelles is easily £25m in this market. It isn't like. Dubravka is an injury prone 34 year old goalie and Lascelles has a year left on his deal. Just because it's what you want it to be doesn't mean that's what it is. If we could get £25 million for those two they'd already be long, long gone. Time and time again it is clear we more or less can't give our fringe players away because they're crap and yet people think it's football manager. If we could sell people like that we wouldn't be considered cashing in on a genuine asset like Maxi. Edited July 16, 2023 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Would you feel comfortable if Pope got injured, relying on Karius for any length of time ? Doesn't matter what I feel, though I do like him. Those are the facts though unless we sell one of him and Gillespie which won't happen a month after they've just extended a contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Would you feel comfortable if Pope got injured, relying on Karius for any length of time ? Yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Doesn't matter what I feel, though I do like him. Those are the facts though unless we sell one of him and Gillespie which won't happen a month after they've just extended a contract. I don’t think Gillespie getting a new deal means anything tbh. Similar to Dummett getting a new deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) Every club in the land is dealing with FFP and financial controls. Players with potential or age on their side (and low wages) will continue to go for big money, but aging average players on big contracts you will just not be getting fees for anymore. Every single club has to operate in a landscape where players are financial assets to be bought and sold with the future in mind. It's honestly a bloody miracle that we had Forest give us money for Wood and a nominal fee for Shelvey in this market. Edited July 16, 2023 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 We should only be looking register 3 keepers, like. Not sure why we'd give him a contract to be u21 keeper? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: We should only be looking register 3 keepers, like. Not sure why we'd give him a contract to be u21 keeper? He’s very popular around the training ground and won’t be on much at all. Isn’t he home grown as well ? Not sure if that means much regarding registration. Edited July 16, 2023 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Quite strange how the Darlow rumours have just died, was linked to Bournemouth, Hull and Boro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, Nucasol said: Quite strange how the Darlow rumours have just died, was linked to Bournemouth, Hull and Boro. It’s the same every window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: It’s the same every window Another one we undoubtedly put on wages not befitting of his talent and resale value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: Worth a watch. Impressive, has quick feet for someone his size Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) If you were looking for a potential Schar replacement for the future, going off that he fits the bill perfectly, looks the perfect partner for Botman. Edited July 16, 2023 by Tiotes Witch Doctor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 37 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Plus you're not getting £25 million for that lot Not getting £2.5 million for that lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Dubravka is a really solid shot-stopper and Lascelles is a prime age no-nonsense centre back with plenty of Premier League experience, he seems great to have in the dressing room as well. They seem perfect for a promoted side but they can probably get better value (at least on paper) elsewhere. Forrest showed what you can buy for similar fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I know it shouldn’t but there’s a creeping element of frustration for me around this window. Need to keep reminding myself this is the new nufc and trust the new management team to do be doing things right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 There there must be a couple Saudi clubs in need of a keeper and another in need of an angry little Scotsman? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Premier League clubs are not stupid like they used to be. The likes of Brentford and Bournemouth etc might be small clubs but they're ran by serious people, data driven, solid sporting and business models. The days of clubs having no scouting network to speak of and just buying solid aging pros on big salaries to stay up is gone. I just can't see any market for Lascelles in this game. I like him and he's been a good pro for NUFC but he is not a modern PL defender and is a depreciating asset. A comparable player is maybe Conor Coady who Wolves managed to get £7 million for at the same age. But he's a better player, played multiple times for England, played far more football in recent years. And he's been signed by a Championship club looking to recruit for a specific promotion niche. Clubs will still see some value in an experienced solid defender in a dressing room, like Brentford picking up somebody like Ben Mee. But he was a free transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 59 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We can’t lose Dubs and Darlow. Why can’t we? We have just gave Gillespie & Karius new contracts. I know Gillespie’s is playing the system for the home grown rule but we can’t use up squad places with 4 keepers or is that normal? Do other PL clubs have 4 keepers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 56 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Would you feel comfortable if Pope got injured, relying on Karius for any length of time ? It’s not really up to us. Howe obviously does or he wouldn’t have offered him a new contract Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, gdm said: It’s not really up to us. Howe obviously does or he wouldn’t have offered him a new contract It’s a message board for opinions mate, everyone is free to express their own 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: It’s a message board for opinions mate, everyone is free to express their own 👍 Of course. Didn’t say you couldn’t. Point is everything points to Dubravka leaving so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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