The Prophet Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Gillespie, Karius, Dubravka, Dummett, Lascelles, Ritchie, Hayden, Hendrick, Miggy and Wilson out. GK, CB, RW and ST in. We thinking something like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Absolutely. Off the top of my head, can only think of Pep who tinkers a fair bit. easy for him to tinker with Walker, Dias, Stones, Ake, Akanji and Gvardiol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, The Prophet said: Gillespie, Karius, Dubravka, Dummett, Lascelles, Ritchie, Hayden, Hendrick, Miggy and Wilson out. GK, CB, RW and ST in. We thinking something like that? I don't think Gillespie will, he's like the nuclear button option for GK. I suspect Dummett might just hang around the U-Bend depending on numbers. Dubravka will be 100% gone IMO. The defenders don't trust him and he's making noises. Miggy and Wilson I reckon will go. Lascelles 50/50. That's how I see it anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I don't understand this clamour for a number 6. If all were fit we'd have seven CMs to choose from as it is, I'm sure Tonali would be able to play that role and even then Howe's midfield trio system is more like playing three number 8s with one of them filling in the 6 role if necessary. A new CB, RW and Striker are more important to bring in this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, Beth said: I don't understand this clamour for a number 6. If all were fit we'd have seven CMs to choose from as it is, I'm sure Tonali would be able to play that role and even then Howe's midfield trio system is more like playing three number 8s with one of them filling in the 6 role if necessary. A new CB, RW and Striker are more important to bring in this summer. I actually agree. However, I'd like the option of a traditional number 6. Even if its for specific games or moments. How that would work in terms of ins and outs, I'm not sure. I suspect Howe might be grooming Miley for that eventual role but that's just a guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Gillespie, Karius, Dubravka, Dummett, Lascelles, Ritchie, Hayden, Hendrick, Miggy and Wilson out. GK, CB, RW and ST in. We thinking something like that? If Karius and Gillespie were happy to stay I'd just bump them up to 2nd/3rd choice, let Dubravka go and make an U21 keeper 4th choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 We'd need a better backup keeper than Karius and Gillespie for Pope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Also not sure we'll get a RW and a striker, given they'll both cost a fair wedge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 14 minutes ago, joeyt said: We'd need a better backup keeper than Karius and Gillespie for Pope Dub is barely any better than Karius imo. How many teams have good back up keepers in the PL? Outside of City/Liverpool/Arsenal I can't think of any others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 There has to be a young goalkeeper with real potential knocking around Europe. Won't even cost alot either, if we do the job right. If we get into Europa/conference we can offer them plenty of games. Dubravka burned his bridges with his Man Utd stuff, IMO. Time to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 5 minutes ago, Beth said: Dub is barely any better than Karius imo. How many teams have good back up keepers in the PL? Outside of City/Liverpool/Arsenal I can't think of any others. We don't know how good Karius is though, the last we can judge him on was a pretty useless time at Liverpool and Gillespie is hopeless. At least Dubravka is an average enough Prem keeper There was talk that we needed to upgrade on Pope this summer anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 minutes ago, STM said: There has to be a young goalkeeper with real potential knocking around Europe. Won't even cost alot either, if we do the job right. If we get into Europa/conference we can offer them plenty of games. Dubravka burned his bridges with his Man Utd stuff, IMO. Time to move on. It's the keeper at Valencia that everyone wants I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, Beth said: Dub is barely any better than Karius imo. How many teams have good back up keepers in the PL? Outside of City/Liverpool/Arsenal I can't think of any others. West Ham, Palace, Chelsea, Man Utd, Brighton off the top of my head in addition to the ones you mentioned all have decent back up keepers or ones that they are trying to produce for the future Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, gbandit said: Tonali can replace Joelinton’s physical presence? Not sure I saw any evidence of that even though I rate Tonali and think he will be great for us I thought he looked like he had a good engine and likes putting his foot in, not identical to Joelinton in style but certainly a presence. At home to Liverpool he was everywhere and thought it went tits up when he went off to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I'd be looking for atleast 70 million for big jo like. There's not many like him about his power pace aggression physicality and even his eye for goal. Plus his commitment to the team billing can't replace that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 If we have to sell let Targett, miggy, Wilson, dubz, lascelles, Longstaff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, andycap said: I'd be looking for atleast 70 million for big jo like. There's not many like him about his power pace aggression physicality and even his eye for goal. Plus his commitment to the team billing can't replace that. 28 in the summer and about to enter the last year of his contract, no chance. We'd get about what we paid for him (and who would have thought that two years ago!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Joelinton is brilliant for our system but I don't think he'd be anywhere near as effective in most other sides. No team who can afford to spend £70m on a midfielder is spending it on him. His value to us is worth more than we'd get for him, unfortunately with FFP and his contract situation we'd be daft to not consider any offers we get for him. From a fans perspective I'd hate to see him go though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Think a dedicated number 6 is our most important requirement next season, followed very closely by a RW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) I’m just glad Eddie doesn’t see it the same way. More important would be a creative CM in a #10 ilk to feed Isak and the wide forwards and chip in with 8-10 goals. Edited February 12 by cubaricho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) I'd be happy to go with Karius as understudy. Though that's not factoring in another long term Pope injury and more a cup competition alternate. If the club can unearth a moderately priced find that would be fine too - am just a bit stingy with the ffp roadblock Edited February 12 by Jonas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 We would be lucky to get our money back on Joeinton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: We would be lucky to get our money back on Joeinton. Don’t agree but we would be foolish to sell him for less than £40m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Jo is a Brazilian international player now and he's better than casemiro nowadays. Lucky to get 40 million is bollocks. I think he worth about 60 million in today's market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, andycap said: Jo is a Brazilian international player now and he's better than casemiro nowadays. Lucky to get 40 million is bollocks. I think he worth about 60 million in today's market. Are you the same poster who said Almiron was worth £35-40m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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