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9 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:


Yeah. Not a chance he’d come here or that we could afford him. 

As a golden rule links that kaka posts are generally tenuous at best so i wouldnt worry. That one from Talbot suggests more reasons why we wouldnt be after him :lol:

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21 minutes ago, Fezzle said:

As a golden rule links that kaka posts are generally tenuous at best so i wouldnt worry. That one from Talbot suggests more reasons why we wouldnt be after him :lol:

 

I was on about Gyokeres.  You'd imagine if he keeps on, he'll have every top club in Europe after him.  

 

Kolo Muani, who knows.  

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1 minute ago, nufc123 said:

Maybe a stupid question, but is there any difference buying in January vs the summer in terms of financial rules?

 

I think the dealine for this 3 year period is still 30th of june?

 

 

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24 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

Maybe a stupid question, but is there any difference buying in January vs the summer in terms of financial rules?


The difference between January and June is wages spent (or saved if selling), plus a portion of amortization.

 

July 1 and after very different.

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32 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

Maybe a stupid question, but is there any difference buying in January vs the summer in terms of financial rules?

 

They'll have changed the rules a few times between now and January if the last week is anything to go by.

 

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7 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:


The difference between January and June is wages spent (or saved if selling), plus a portion of amortization.

 

July 1 and after very different.

But is that so much to be fearful of breaching the rules?

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too lazy to format

 

Newcastle target forward rather than Marc Guéhi in January

Club unlikely to renew interest in Crystal Palace captain as Sven Botman nears return — and have discussed leaving St James’ Park in a bid to increase revenue

November 15 2024, 11.46pm GMT

Newcastle tried to sign Guéhi in the summer but had several bids rejected by Crystal Palace

SEBASTIAN FREJ/MB MEDIA/GETTY IMAGES

The return of the Netherlands defender from an anterior cruciate ligament injury means that Newcastle may temper any interest in Marc Guéhi, whom they failed to sign despite protracted interest in the Crystal Palace centre back during the summer.

Botman, who signed for Newcastle for £35million in 2022, is set to begin light training, with an aim to possibly begin playing before the end of the year. Eddie Howe, the Newcastle head coach, believes that the 24-year-old will go on to be remembered as one of the best centre halves the Premier League has had. His return has caused the club to rethink and prioritise a right-sided forward, but any incoming deal would have to be absolutely right for the club in the medium and long term.

Newcastle could rekindle their interest in the Nottingham Forest winger Anthony Elanga, whom they failed to sign on the final day of the summer transfer window, but at a significantly reduced price to the £35million they were prepared to pay in August. Forest were not keen to sell at such a late stage without time to look for a replacement but are believed to be more receptive to an approach in January for the 22-year-old, who plays with Alexander Isak for Sweden.

Newcastle will not move for the 18-year-old Southampton wide man Tyler Dibling, whose form this season has generated much interest.

Newcastle could consider making a fresh approach for the Forest winger Elanga

MI NEWS/NURPHOTO/SHUTTERSTOCK

Botman’s return coincides with sources indicating that the club are “extremely conscious” of the limitations of PSR and do not want to make decisions that could “really damage” them next year.

There is still internal frustration over having to weaken the first-team squad at the end of June by selling players to avoid punishment. Newcastle do not have the complication of added fixtures in European football going into the new year, which is another indicator that it could be a quiet transfer window for them.

They may look to sell the likes of Miguel Almirón and Callum Wilson but have still to find any takers. Wilson is set to return against West Ham United on Monday for his first game this season having recovered from a back injury.

Newcastle had a further £35million injected into the club’s working capital this week by its owners, the Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund, via a single share. It means PIF has now injected nearly £338million in capital into the club for general running costs since the takeover in October 2021, more than the actual £305million sale price agreed with the former owner Mike Ashley.

Newcastle’s chief operating officer has said the club are “seriously” considering leaving St James’ Park

SCOTT HEPPELL/REUTERS

The club’s turnover was still just £250million in the most recent accounts, posted in June 2023, and in a further sign of how important PSR is and the need to increase turnover, the club’s chief operating officer, Brad Miller, spoke publicly of the possibility of leaving St James’ Park on Wednesday night.

Miller was speaking at a “We are United” event held at the Stack, a leisure hub and fanzone outside St James’ Park, to a group of about 2,000 supporters.

“As you have heard a lot, it is all about revenue and PSR,” he said. “We have to work hard to make sure we give as much money as possible to Paul [Mitchell, the director of football] and the football side in order to remain competitive on the field.

“A new stadium has the potential to earn a lot more, both on match days and non-match days. It is giving us an indication that we can actually contribute even more to the football club and football side if we had a new stadium.

“The first choice is if we stayed at St James’ we have the 52,000 seats already. It comes with significantly more money if we transform it and it will look amazing. That’s option one.

“Option two is if we were to move away, and not too far away as we aren’t going to stretch the elastic band to the point of breaking. We are looking at it seriously as it does have the potential to earn more than twice as much in terms of revenue, compared to a transformation of St James’ Park, and more seats, a lot more seats potentially.”

An informal show of hands among supporters at the event showed a majority in favour of leaving St James’ Park. Previously, in a feasibility study undertaken, 71 per cent of fans wanted to stay.

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6 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

too lazy to format

 

Newcastle target forward rather than Marc Guéhi in January

Club unlikely to renew interest in Crystal Palace captain as Sven Botman nears return — and have discussed leaving St James’ Park in a bid to increase revenue

November 15 2024, 11.46pm GMT

Newcastle tried to sign Guéhi in the summer but had several bids rejected by Crystal Palace

SEBASTIAN FREJ/MB MEDIA/GETTY IMAGES

The return of the Netherlands defender from an anterior cruciate ligament injury means that Newcastle may temper any interest in Marc Guéhi, whom they failed to sign despite protracted interest in the Crystal Palace centre back during the summer.

Botman, who signed for Newcastle for £35million in 2022, is set to begin light training, with an aim to possibly begin playing before the end of the year. Eddie Howe, the Newcastle head coach, believes that the 24-year-old will go on to be remembered as one of the best centre halves the Premier League has had. His return has caused the club to rethink and prioritise a right-sided forward, but any incoming deal would have to be absolutely right for the club in the medium and long term.

Newcastle could rekindle their interest in the Nottingham Forest winger Anthony Elanga, whom they failed to sign on the final day of the summer transfer window, but at a significantly reduced price to the £35million they were prepared to pay in August. Forest were not keen to sell at such a late stage without time to look for a replacement but are believed to be more receptive to an approach in January for the 22-year-old, who plays with Alexander Isak for Sweden.

Newcastle will not move for the 18-year-old Southampton wide man Tyler Dibling, whose form this season has generated much interest.

Newcastle could consider making a fresh approach for the Forest winger Elanga

MI NEWS/NURPHOTO/SHUTTERSTOCK

Botman’s return coincides with sources indicating that the club are “extremely conscious” of the limitations of PSR and do not want to make decisions that could “really damage” them next year.

There is still internal frustration over having to weaken the first-team squad at the end of June by selling players to avoid punishment. Newcastle do not have the complication of added fixtures in European football going into the new year, which is another indicator that it could be a quiet transfer window for them.

They may look to sell the likes of Miguel Almirón and Callum Wilson but have still to find any takers. Wilson is set to return against West Ham United on Monday for his first game this season having recovered from a back injury.

Newcastle had a further £35million injected into the club’s working capital this week by its owners, the Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund, via a single share. It means PIF has now injected nearly £338million in capital into the club for general running costs since the takeover in October 2021, more than the actual £305million sale price agreed with the former owner Mike Ashley.

Newcastle’s chief operating officer has said the club are “seriously” considering leaving St James’ Park

SCOTT HEPPELL/REUTERS

The club’s turnover was still just £250million in the most recent accounts, posted in June 2023, and in a further sign of how important PSR is and the need to increase turnover, the club’s chief operating officer, Brad Miller, spoke publicly of the possibility of leaving St James’ Park on Wednesday night.

Miller was speaking at a “We are United” event held at the Stack, a leisure hub and fanzone outside St James’ Park, to a group of about 2,000 supporters.

“As you have heard a lot, it is all about revenue and PSR,” he said. “We have to work hard to make sure we give as much money as possible to Paul [Mitchell, the director of football] and the football side in order to remain competitive on the field.

“A new stadium has the potential to earn a lot more, both on match days and non-match days. It is giving us an indication that we can actually contribute even more to the football club and football side if we had a new stadium.

“The first choice is if we stayed at St James’ we have the 52,000 seats already. It comes with significantly more money if we transform it and it will look amazing. That’s option one.

“Option two is if we were to move away, and not too far away as we aren’t going to stretch the elastic band to the point of breaking. We are looking at it seriously as it does have the potential to earn more than twice as much in terms of revenue, compared to a transformation of St James’ Park, and more seats, a lot more seats potentially.”

An informal show of hands among supporters at the event showed a majority in favour of leaving St James’ Park. Previously, in a feasibility study undertaken, 71 per cent of fans wanted to stay.

 

Thanks man. Appreciate that :thup:

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Honestly I dont know if I want a RW. I am open to us playing Gordon RW and Barnes LW for a few matches to see how it works. I think Barnes does the cut in from the left and shoot as an inside forward thing better than Gordon. I think Gordons play style is very well suited to being a more traditional winger who beats his man and gets to the byline. That cross for Isak the other match. I'd like to see him play RW. I want us to sign a world class CB. I'm not banking on Botman coming back and playing like he did in our top 4 season. I'd love it but im not expecting it. Also Schar isnt young. Burn is ideally a squad player. Kelly can be cover at LB and at CB. This team would look much better with a VERY good CB. Having a depth or developmental RW would be nice. If we spend big I think it should be a CB. Maybe one of the younger portugese ones. 

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3 minutes ago, Sufi said:

I think Gordons play style is very well suited to being a more traditional winger who beats his man and gets to the byline.

I would rather do this than buy Elanga who would be another right footed RW.  We have three right footed LW's in Gordon, Barnes, and Joelinton. If we spend on a RW, I think we need a left footed player who can cut inside because we are trying to get rid of Miggy. 

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How many minutes have we had with Gordon and Barnes on at the same time? Usually late in the second half when we are trailing. Would like to see us do it more from the start. Bruno Tonali Jow in mid from the start is another i want to see more of.

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14 minutes ago, Sufi said:

How many minutes have we had with Gordon and Barnes on at the same time? Usually late in the second half when we are trailing. Would like to see us do it more from the start. Bruno Tonali Jow in mid from the start is another i want to see more of.

They both started against Spurs and Fulham. I think maybe Barnes started RW vs Spurs.

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6 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

Tenuous links to Cherki again. Has played as a RW/LW but certainly not his most common position. I'm not sold on him in all honesty but he's an exciting player to watch that's for sure.



Been watching him for years. Was a football manager wonderkid. Very talented but I dont see him winning over Howe with his anemic workrate. Makes more sense as a 10 than as a winger for us. Eddie demands a lot from his wingers. I really cant imagine him being much help to the young fullback behind him if played on the wing. He's a "streets will never forget" type player though. Taraabt Ben Arfa etc. 

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27 minutes ago, Sufi said:

How many minutes have we had with Gordon and Barnes on at the same time? Usually late in the second half when we are trailing. Would like to see us do it more from the start. Bruno Tonali Jow in mid from the start is another i want to see more of.

 

Joelinton has done very well at LW lately, after struggling at CM. Honestly I still believe LW has been his best position ever since Howe came in. There are a few things that makes him a little less suited centrally, but ofcourse at times he has done a job for us there aswell.

 

 

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