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[Ikon]

Who would people pick between Bakayoko and Dibling to name two we’ve been linked with? I doubt Cherki is of the profile we are looking at unfortunately.

 

Personally my first pick would probably be Akliouche. Don’t see that one being possible in January though. Talented and very good footballing IQ. 
 

Between Dibling and Bakayoko I’m not sure really. Maybe Dibling as I think he might be better long term. Kolo-Muani might be a good option considering that we only have Isak and if he got injured we’d be fucked. 

 

 

Edited December 28, 2024 by Ikon

[BergenMagpie]

6 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

No-one is signing Dibling for his goal output, they’re signing for him for his level of composure, technical ability and footballing IQ at such a young age. 

 

The skill set you dream of working with to mould into the player you want whilst still learning. We spent £30m on Lewis Hall after 8 prem games, so Dibling for more is fair value since attackers usually carry more weight.

I mean he's undeniably talented, but cant see anyone taking a punt now for 50m. Who could afford this in this PSR landscape? At his age clubs would probably also want to see that his body doesn't turn to glass after his first injury

 

Also it feels like young defensive english players are usually linked with higher value moves than wingers

[The College Dropout]

8 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

Yup.

 

Saka and Mahrez are top tier and are the sort that work best for Arteta and Pep. They are great in tight spaces and are precision finishers and passes/crossers.

 

Sterling was also great at Man City due to his movement off the ball.

 

I think it's quite difficult finding players that will perform in that setup.

 

Salah and Palmer would. Not sure if Mbeumo and Bowen would though.

 

Equally the guys struggling for them at the moment, Martinelli, Doku and Savio would likely look very good playing out wide at Newcastle.

I agree with you. 
 

I think Bowen could make the step up. That left foot is cash money. He doesn’t need a transition or space to get it off. Similarly I think Barnes could do a job off the bench for any elite side for the same reason - that right foot is cash money at finishing. Bowen has more creativity though. I’m not sure on Mbeumo as Brentford are such a transition and direct attack based side.  I do love Mbeumo’s movement though. 
 

Martinelli I always doubted technically. But he doesn’t even have the box instincts I thought he might. That hunger and desire to always be at the far post moving. Doku and Savio just aren’t those types of players. Mbeumo and Bowen have that determination and instincts in the box. 
 

It’s why I don’t mind Gordon at 9. He’s got decent box movement and that determination to get the first touch in the box. It’s hard to teach that.  Rashford never had that, he liked everything to feet and then to show quality. But that quality would waver.  

[The College Dropout]

8 hours ago, BergenMagpie said:

They probably don't, his contract isn't up and he could, but that wasn't my point. 

 

I think he's too young and raw (only played 17 games at top level with only 1 goal) for anyone to pay such a "finished article" amount of money for him. Also, he'd might request a transfer if they go down. 50m would be a crazy gamble

Dibling went from Southampton youth academy to the spurs academy a few years ago. He didn’t like it and moved back within a year. He’s not putting in a transfer request like. He’s a proper wonderkid that’s had hype from a young age - we are not going to get him on the cheap. 
 

I expect him to do an Archie Gray. Spend a year getting regular championship football in what will likely be a winning team. Try to shine.  Try and get Southampton promoted. If Dibling shines and Southampton get promoted, stay another year.  If they don’t consider leaving. He may need further development time anyway. 
 

And Leeds only sold Gray because they needed the money too.  
 

The Champ is a great league to develop talent. I stand by it, if Southampton sell in the summer they’ll get £40m unless they have PSR issues like Leeds. 

[The College Dropout]

15 minutes ago, BergenMagpie said:

I mean he's undeniably talented, but cant see anyone taking a punt now for 50m. Who could afford this in this PSR landscape? At his age clubs would probably also want to see that his body doesn't turn to glass after his first injury

 

Also it feels like young defensive english players are usually linked with higher value moves than wingers

He also doesn’t need to move.  
 

if he was available for £30m a top 6 side + data boys (Brentford, Brighton) would buy him just for the value.  That pushes the price to £40m and that’s if they need to sell him.  He’ll be worth that same £40m next year. 
 

Re Brighton: I believe they only signed Minteh and Rutted because the value of the deals was so good vs risk.  If you look at their squad - they didn’t need another RW or 10.  But us and Leeds got ourselves into FFP issues and had to sell high potential players for a decent fee. We had a lot of interest at 30-40m for Minteh after 1 good season in the eredivisie. Southampton will know if Dibling could do similar next season. Unless forced - no need to sell for £30m this season. 

[The College Dropout]

23 minutes ago, Ikon said:

Who would people pick between Bakayoko and Dibling to name two we’ve been linked with? I doubt Cherki is of the profile we are looking at unfortunately.

 

Personally my first pick would probably be Akliouche. Don’t see that one being possible in January though. Talented and very good footballing IQ. 
 

Between Dibling and Bakayoko I’m not sure really. Maybe Dibling as I think he might be better long term. Kolo-Muani might be a good option considering that we only have Isak and if he got injured we’d be fucked. 

 

 

 

Kolo Muani plays for PSG. He was signed for €90m. He probably earns €200k per week.  
 

Why would he/we sign him to sit on the bench? 
 

Even if his wages are subsidised. He will not Join to sit on the bench. 
 

when we think about targets we should consider the targets existing wages and profile vs what we can offer. 

[STM]

37 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Wonder if we’d be open to a deal to a championship side who have a strong chance of going up. Like Leeds on loan with obligation to buy if they go up for £20m. 
 

Feels that would open up potential list of clubs to buy. 

 

He will have PL options because, believe it or not, he's not as our own fans seem to think.

[STM]

I think it's clear we won't be signing players already on big wages, we've never done that yet, so I doubt we will do it now.

 

It's also become less likely now we have Mitchell IMO.

[KaKa]

22 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I agree with you. 
 

I think Bowen could make the step up. That left foot is cash money. He doesn’t need a transition or space to get it off. Similarly I think Barnes could do a job off the bench for any elite side for the same reason - that right foot is cash money at finishing. Bowen has more creativity though. I’m not sure on Mbeumo as Brentford are such a transition and direct attack based side.  I do love Mbeumo’s movement though. 
 

Martinelli I always doubted technically. But he doesn’t even have the box instincts I thought he might. That hunger and desire to always be at the far post moving. Doku and Savio just aren’t those types of players. Mbeumo and Bowen have that determination and instincts in the box. 
 

It’s why I don’t mind Gordon at 9. He’s got decent box movement and that determination to get the first touch in the box. It’s hard to teach that.  Rashford never had that, he liked everything to feet and then to show quality. But that quality would waver.  

 

Yeah, it's interesting.

 

I agree on the quality of both Barnes and Bowen when striking the ball. However, I'm just not sure how good they'd be manipulating the tight spaces to get those off. It's the biggest issue when playing in those slower possession heavy sides that look to find gaps against low blocks.

[Ikon]

12 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Kolo Muani plays for PSG. He was signed for €90m. He probably earns €200k per week.  
 

Why would he/we sign him to sit on the bench? 
 

Even if his wages are subsidised. He will not Join to sit on the bench. 
 

when we think about targets we should consider the targets existing wages and profile vs what we can offer. 

You don’t say, my bad. I genuinely thought he played for Scunthorpe reserves and for free. 
 

Sit on the bench? You don’t think he would get ahead of Murphy? He has played out wide a lot.  Could also be rotated with Isak. 
 

I’ve mentioned before that he’s on around 200k at a guess. But IF it was possible financially then he wouldn’t be a bad choice on loan with an option to buy in the summer as he can play many positions. Especially if PSG were willing to pay some of his wages. 
 

Ideally not my first choice type as a RW but considering that we rely so heavily on Isak and that we won’t be able to buy both a striker and right sided player in January he might be an option to look at. Depending on his character and the financial side of it obviously. 
 

A young talented CB and him for example and it would look quite good squad wise. 

 

 

Edited December 28, 2024 by Ikon

[Matt1892]

If we are still looking for a right sided centre back then we should be looking at Zabarnyi from Bournemouth in January, before one of the top sides go in for him in the summer.

 

 

[Ikon]

3 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

If we are still looking for a right sided centre back then we should be looking at Zabarnyi from Bournemouth in January, before one of the top sides go in for him in the summer.

 

 

Expensive I’d guess. Buy one that hasn’t already shown PL quality. 

 

 

Edited December 28, 2024 by Ikon

[The College Dropout]

13 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Yeah, it's interesting.

 

I agree on the quality of both Barnes and Bowen when striking the ball. However, I'm just not sure how good they'd be manipulating the tight spaces to get those off. It's the biggest issue when playing in those slower possession heavy sides that look to find gaps against low blocks.

We’ve often used Barnes off the bench when chasing a game against a deep defence. And he’s managed to execute.  Barnes doesn’t need space, he just needs to get to his spots. And he can 1 touch finish. He’s got great tech that applies at the elite level.  
 

It’s his general play that is extremely limited.  From what I’ve seen of Bowen he’s got that elite tech but better work rate and all round play.  Liverpool were very hot on Bowen (and Barnes too at a point).  I think they both have an efficiency in the final third that translates against Lower blocks.  Barnes issue is that the rest of his game is just so limited. And Bowen has either been poorly advised or he’s happy to be a big fish in a small pond by signing a 6-year deal at 27. It’s rumoured to be 120-150k which isn’t even the super max deal I thought it was. 

[The College Dropout]

21 minutes ago, Ikon said:

You don’t say, my bad. I genuinely thought he played for Scunthorpe reserves and for free. 
 

Sit on the bench? You don’t think he would get ahead of Murphy? He has played out wide a lot.  Could also be rotated with Isak. 
 

I’ve mentioned before that he’s on around 200k at a guess. But IF it was possible financially then he wouldn’t be a bad choice on loan with an option to buy in the summer as he can play many positions. Especially if PSG were willing to pay some of his wages. 
 

Ideally not my first choice type as a RW but considering that we rely so heavily on Isak and that we won’t be able to buy both a striker and right sided player in January he might be an option to look at. Depending on his character and the financial side of it obviously. 
 

A young talented CB and him for example and it would look quite good squad wise. 

 

 

 

He’s not a RW though. He’s a striker. 
 

maybe I’m being too cynical but the idea feels too FM-tastic.  You get the out of favour superstar and you ham-fist him into your team where’s he’s ’accomplished’.  When in real life he’s never going to track a fullback ever again. And will inevitably join a Spanish or Italian CL club or if he’s unlucky - join Spurs. 
 

If he’s to join on loan - he’s not coming to chase fullbacks for Newcastle United. The French no. 9 position is up for grabs. 

 

 

Edited December 28, 2024 by The College Dropout

[SUPERTOON]

11 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

If we are still looking for a right sided centre back then we should be looking at Zabarnyi from Bournemouth in January, before one of the top sides go in for him in the summer.

 

 

PSG already in for him 

[Ikon]

7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

He’s not a RW though. He’s a striker. 
 

maybe I’m being too cynical but the idea feels too FM-tastic.  You get the out of favour superstar and you ham-fist him into your team where’s he’s ’accomplished’.  When in real life he’s never going to track a fullback ever again. And will inevitably join a Spanish or Italian CL club or if he’s unlucky - join Spurs. 
 

If he’s to join on loan - he’s not coming to chase fullbacks for Newcastle United. The French no. 9 position is up for grabs. 

 

 

 

I know his natural/main position is CF. Once again… not my ideal signing by any means. Whether he would be willing to come and play as a right sided forward and CF on quite a few occasions I don’t know obviously, neither do you. Might very well be that it’s not something he’s up to.
 

Just saying that it might be an option worth looking at at least considering that we only have one quality striker and also need a right sided player. 

[The College Dropout]

48 minutes ago, Ikon said:

I know his natural/main position is CF. Once again… not my ideal signing by any means. Whether he would be willing to come and play as a right sided forward and CF on quite a few occasions I don’t know obviously, neither do you. Might very well be that it’s not something he’s up to.
 

Just saying that it might be an option worth looking at at least considering that we only have one quality striker and also need a right sided player. 

Cool.  Just feels unrealistic to me and I’ve outlined why. 

[WilliamPS]

4 hours ago, ExiledGeordie said:

I wonder if Longstaff might go in January now that we have Miley? It would also make sense PSR wise. I don’t see Trippier going next month as we need his experience for the league. I think Barnes will probably go in the summer to get more football. 
 

A new RW and R CB next month like the Lens player would be the dream but I’d take a RW as a priority. 

Be a bananas move by Howe if Longstaff left in January. Willock has constant injury issues, Joelinton also picks up muscle injuries regularly. Joelinton, Bruno and Tonali pick up yellows like I pick up quality street. 
 

At the very least it would certainly end up with 3 CMs having to play full 90 minutes with no sub options, more likely it would involve some sort of emergency cover when 2 or 3 were out, all for a tiny sum. Longstaff should be given an extension, he works hard, follows team instructions and despite what some think is a decent PL midfielder, he’s pretty much the ideal squad backup.

[Alberto2005]

1 minute ago, WilliamPS said:

Be a bananas move by Howe if Longstaff left in January. Willock has constant injury issues, Joelinton also picks up muscle injuries regularly. Joelinton, Bruno and Tonali pick up yellows like I pick up quality street. 
 

At the very least it would certainly end up with 3 CMs having to play full 90 minutes with no sub options, more likely it would involve some sort of emergency cover when 2 or 3 were out, all for a tiny sum. Longstaff should be given an extension, he works hard, follows team instructions and despite what some think is a decent PL midfielder, he’s pretty much the ideal squad backup.

We have to sell someone for PSR, the likes of Almiron won't help much with that.

[Mazzy]

I think if any one of the midfielders were to leave it'll be Willock. Not that I can see which team would want him or what someone would even pay considering the form and injuries he's had over the last 2 seasons.

 

 

Edited December 28, 2024 by Mazzy

[The College Dropout]

If we can get good money it’s Longstaff. Willock is a good player. 

[NSG]

Think we could get through a few months without a replacement if he did go. Angel Gomes on a free would be a decent option.

[SteV]

2 hours ago, Matt1892 said:

If we are still looking for a right sided centre back then we should be looking at Zabarnyi from Bournemouth in January, before one of the top sides go in for him in the summer.

 

 

Bournemouth won’t be selling any centre-backs in January given their injuries.

[black_n_white]

I’m guessing we’d be in a better position come the summer if we don’t sign anyone in January? Or does it not work like that? Not suggesting we do mind.

[joeyt]

Quote

Newcastle are among the clubs showing interest in AC Milan's Fikayo Tomori with eyes on bringing the defender to the club in January, according to Gazzetta dello Sport in Italy.

 

The former Chelsea defender has found himself surplus to requirements at the San Siro with Milan boss Paulo Fonseca favouring other options at the back. 

The report suggests that Newcastle head the interest from the Premier League, while West Ham, Napoli and Juventus are also said to be targeting the centre-back. 

It is said that the former Chelsea defender could be available for £20m in January.

 

 

 

Edited December 28, 2024 by joeyt