McCormick Posted Wednesday at 13:15 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:15 The funny thing is Elanga would be doing numbers in other less physical leagues on the continent. Great work-rate, lightning speed, good weak foot; i get that many want someone with more technical ability but he’s an Eddie Howe winger through and through. You pay a premium for PL players because you know what they can do in this league. I’m not saying we should shell out 50m but anything less than 40m would be decent business imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Wednesday at 13:19 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:19 It's a shame that most of the top RW options are going to be left footed, because of the systems teams play. As having Murphy on the right and having him get to the line has massively helped stretch play and him and Isak have struck up a real understanding. Elanga is far better on his left than Murphy and will cut in and drift around more. But still has that mad pace to get past his man on the outside, as well. I'm not saying he is enough of an upgrade or worth the money. But I wouldn't mind us going with a right footer for that side. Isak certainly seems to enjoy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted Wednesday at 13:54 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:54 56 minutes ago, KingArthur said: Elanga is nowhere near 50 million player. I don't get why people are so into him. He doesn't have a good shot, isn't a great creator or dribbler. He is just fast. Nowhere near the player we need. Wouldn't be a starter for any big 6 team. I hope we are past this "let's buy 'proven EPL player for 50 million' and not a similar type player from the continent for half the price" -nonsense. Mitchell should do his job. I know this is has been said to death now... but people said the same (and worse) about Gordon. Honestly think Elanga is better/more effective now than Gordon was when we signed him from Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted Wednesday at 14:01 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:01 1 minute ago, sushimonster85 said: I know this is has been said to death now... but people said the same (and worse) about Gordon. Honestly think Elanga is better/more effective now than Gordon was when we signed him from Everton. People might have said something like that, but Gordon had 11 goals last season. I don't think Elanga will ever reach that kind of numbers. We need both of our wide players to score and assist. I just see nothing special in Elanga. Malen for example a much better player (I don't think he is the answer either) and going for a lot less. I think Elanga is not a big upgrade on Murphy. Even their G+A stats are pretty close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted Wednesday at 14:09 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:09 Tbf the only right wingers with more assists than Murphy in the league are Salah and Saka. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted Wednesday at 14:21 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:21 14 minutes ago, KingArthur said: People might have said something like that, but Gordon had 11 goals last season. I don't think Elanga will ever reach that kind of numbers. Gordon's last half season at Everton before moving in Jan: Games: 16 Goals: 3 Assists: 0 Elanga this season so far: Games: 21 Goals: 3 Assists: 5 And those numbers actually undersell Elanga, who is way more integral to how Forest play compared to Gordon at Everton. Don't think it's being crazy to suggest that with 18+ months of Howe Elanga could be producing in a similar way to Gordon. In terms of goal involvements this season he isn't far off already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted Wednesday at 14:26 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:26 Was quite impressed by elanga last night, took on the defender every time and won quite a few, also defended well until he ran completely out of steam near the end. still think we should aim higher than him. The player who really caught my eye was in the chelsea bournemouth game, the young Spanish defender Dean huijsen was really magic and has great passing ability. sure we were looking at him at some point. Would be a great buy to bring in and replace schar in a year´s time? Price might be a bit high now though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted Wednesday at 14:28 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:28 1 minute ago, buzza said: Was quite impressed by elanga last night, took on the defender every time and won quite a few, also defended well until he ran completely out of steam near the end. still think we should aim higher than him. The player who really caught my eye was in the chelsea bournemouth game, the young Spanish defender Dean huijsen was really magic and has great passing ability. sure we were looking at him at some point. Would be a great buy to bring in and replace schar in a year´s time? Price might be a bit high now though For what Elanga costs there are surely better options available in the summer for the same or less money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted Wednesday at 14:39 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:39 11 minutes ago, buzza said: Was quite impressed by elanga last night, took on the defender every time and won quite a few, also defended well until he ran completely out of steam near the end. still think we should aim higher than him. The player who really caught my eye was in the chelsea bournemouth game, the young Spanish defender Dean huijsen was really magic and has great passing ability. sure we were looking at him at some point. Would be a great buy to bring in and replace schar in a year´s time? Price might be a bit high now though Honestly for the fee that Huijsen went for, I csnt believe we didn't go for him I know we had our Guehi goggles on all summer, but he went for such a low fee, and seemed a low risk transfer too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted Wednesday at 14:46 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:46 23 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: Gordon's last half season at Everton before moving in Jan: Games: 16 Goals: 3 Assists: 0 Elanga this season so far: Games: 21 Goals: 3 Assists: 5 And those numbers actually undersell Elanga, who is way more integral to how Forest play compared to Gordon at Everton. Don't think it's being crazy to suggest that with 18+ months of Howe Elanga could be producing in a similar way to Gordon. In terms of goal involvements this season he isn't far off already. I only looked league games. I don't think Elanga is a bad player, but does he improve our XI massively? No he wouldn't.. And when we put 40-60 million on one player, he has to be a top top player. Mbeumo for ex. would be that. But I wouldn't buy from EPL rival. We are most likely going to be fleeced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Wednesday at 14:52 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:52 (edited) 51 minutes ago, KingArthur said: People might have said something like that, but Gordon had 11 goals last season. I don't think Elanga will ever reach that kind of numbers. We need both of our wide players to score and assist. Elanga had 5 goals and 9 assists in the Prem last season. He was only 21 years old. And that Forest team wasn't as good as it's been this season. Edited Wednesday at 14:53 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted Wednesday at 15:15 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:15 This is starting to sound like gooners talking about Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Wednesday at 15:25 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Wednesday at 15:44 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:44 25 minutes ago, Mahoneys Tache said: This is starting to sound like gooners talking about Isak. Is it? We actually enquired about Elanga in the summer and a few places reported we made a couple of bids. We have been genuinely linked a couple times, no? Not just social media influencer wankers on Sky and idiots like Merson and Deeney constantly banging on about Arsenal signing Isak. Is it also that unrealistic as a signing? Plus plenty on here seem to not want him, anyway. I doubt you'll find many Arsenal fans who don't want Isak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Wednesday at 15:53 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:53 Elanga is a good player and he'd be a good signing, depending on price. Right now Forest aren't likely sellers, Elanga is undoubtedly pretty happy and we aren't likely buyers at the price they would want. For 50m or whatever it would take, you are getting close to the price for Mbeumo and I'd rather fork out a touch more on a better player. Alternatively we could probably spend 40ish on Dibling, which would also be better value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted Wednesday at 16:35 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:35 40 minutes ago, STM said: Elanga is a good player and he'd be a good signing, depending on price. Right now Forest aren't likely sellers, Elanga is undoubtedly pretty happy and we aren't likely buyers at the price they would want. For 50m or whatever it would take, you are getting close to the price for Mbeumo and I'd rather fork out a touch more on a better player. Alternatively we could probably spend 40ish on Dibling, which would also be better value. My only issue with Dibling is whether he can hit the ground running particularly if we got champions league. Undoubtedly a great talent, anyway it’s an interesting discussion and to be fair we haven’t finished this season yet lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Wednesday at 17:42 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:42 1 hour ago, ExiledGeordie said: My only issue with Dibling is whether he can hit the ground running particularly if we got champions league. Undoubtedly a great talent, anyway it’s an interesting discussion and to be fair we haven’t finished this season yet lol Probably but we are a club that will have to gamble on players that need some development eg Lewis Hall and Minteh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted Wednesday at 18:22 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:22 3 hours ago, KaKa said: Elanga had 5 goals and 9 assists in the Prem last season. He was only 21 years old. And that Forest team wasn't as good as it's been this season. Well, then obviously he will get better numbers this season? His pace is pretty much the same this season (3+5 bit over half a season gone) I am again not saying he is not a good player, but he really is not a solution for our problems, especially if he ends up costing 50 million (which is more than Gordon cost) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Wednesday at 19:09 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:09 41 minutes ago, KingArthur said: Well, then obviously he will get better numbers this season? His pace is pretty much the same this season (3+5 bit over half a season gone) I am again not saying he is not a good player, but he really is not a solution for our problems, especially if he ends up costing 50 million (which is more than Gordon cost) Yeah, sure. You're entitled to your opinion on the matter. Everyone has their player preferences. He is a good player though, and would be well capable of getting really good numbers, especially in our team. But some people just want a different profile of player, which is fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Wednesday at 19:18 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:18 I don't think we sign anyone this window. Maybes a sale or two but that'll be it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted Wednesday at 19:22 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:22 4 hours ago, sushimonster85 said: Don't think it's being crazy to suggest that with 18+ months of Howe Eddie has worked wonders with players who up to that point were abysmally coached. A load of players he inherited had been coached by Bruce, Gordon was at the career graveyard that is Everton. Elanga has a competent manager so it’ll be a lot more what you see is what you get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted Wednesday at 22:05 Share Posted Wednesday at 22:05 How much would that Cunah go for ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted Wednesday at 22:19 Share Posted Wednesday at 22:19 40 or 50 million at todays rates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Wednesday at 22:20 Share Posted Wednesday at 22:20 More, I’d say. Didn’t he sign a new deal last season? Maybe if they go down. Which I don’t think they will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted Wednesday at 22:21 Share Posted Wednesday at 22:21 2 hours ago, WilliamPS said: Eddie has worked wonders with players who up to that point were abysmally coached. A load of players he inherited had been coached by Bruce, Gordon was at the career graveyard that is Everton. Elanga has a competent manager so it’ll be a lot more what you see is what you get. Gordon played under Ancelotti and Rafa at Everton... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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