SUPERTOON Posted Monday at 19:08 Share Posted Monday at 19:08 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Yes please. I'm sure I read earlier that the Almiron sale is necessary to ensure that we don't breach PSR. Not sure how that is possible when we haven’t made a first team signing in 18 months ? Would also go against what media are saying regarding us hoping to take advantage of clubs who may need to sell before the PSR deadline in June ? Edited Monday at 19:09 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted Monday at 19:09 Share Posted Monday at 19:09 The Hall money was last summer though wasn't it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted Monday at 19:11 Share Posted Monday at 19:11 And who knows how much the Greek cost Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted Monday at 19:22 Share Posted Monday at 19:22 We are currently at 68% in squad cost to revenue currently, if we qualify for Europe need to be at 70% for new rules from next season. We need to remove players from the wage bill to make room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted Monday at 19:26 Share Posted Monday at 19:26 2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: We are currently at 68% in squad cost to revenue currently, if we qualify for Europe need to be at 70% for new rules from next season. We need to remove players from the wage bill to make room. These rules are so fucking shit man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted Monday at 19:30 Share Posted Monday at 19:30 7 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: We are currently at 68% in squad cost to revenue currently, if we qualify for Europe need to be at 70% for new rules from next season. We need to remove players from the wage bill to make room. Or increase revenue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted Monday at 19:49 Share Posted Monday at 19:49 21 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: We are currently at 68% in squad cost to revenue currently, if we qualify for Europe need to be at 70% for new rules from next season. We need to remove players from the wage bill to make room. How many players currently on the payroll have contracts that expire in the summer? Lascelles, Wilson, Krafth, Schar. We’re about to sell Miggy, possibly Kelly before the window shuts and I wouldn’t be surprised if Longstaff is sold in the summer. Plus as others have said we may also increase our revenue too particularly if we qualify for European football. I don’t think it’s quite the doomsday situation you’re painting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted Monday at 20:00 Share Posted Monday at 20:00 9 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: How many players currently on the payroll have contracts that expire in the summer? Lascelles, Wilson, Krafth, Schar. We’re about to sell Miggy, possibly Kelly before the window shuts and I wouldn’t be surprised if Longstaff is sold in the summer. Plus as others have said we may also increase our revenue too particularly if we qualify for European football. I don’t think it’s quite the doomsday situation you’re painting I’m not painting any doomsday scenario they’re just being sensible, you can see by figures how close we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted Monday at 20:05 Share Posted Monday at 20:05 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: He looked a perfect Schär replacement in our game against them. Based on that game alone, he would be an excellent signing, much rather him than Guehi. Obviously it's just click bait bullshit, but still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Monday at 20:07 Share Posted Monday at 20:07 How good is his 70 yard diagonal passing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted Monday at 20:16 Share Posted Monday at 20:16 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Yes please. I'm sure I read earlier that the Almiron sale is necessary to ensure that we don't breach PSR. How? We were clear last week and haven’t spent a penny since osula. How tight can it be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Monday at 20:16 Share Posted Monday at 20:16 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: Not sure how that is possible when we haven’t made a first team signing in 18 months ? Would also go against what media are saying regarding us hoping to take advantage of clubs who may need to sell before the PSR deadline in June ? Without knowing the precise numbers, perhaps the annual amortisation is similar. We're still paying for players bought at the beginning of the takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Monday at 20:21 Share Posted Monday at 20:21 3 minutes ago, gdm said: How? We were clear last week and haven’t spent a penny since osula. How tight can it be? Speculating of course, but we could be paying a similar amount in annual transfer fees and wages to what we were last summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted Monday at 20:36 Share Posted Monday at 20:36 (edited) 1 hour ago, Whitley mag said: We are currently at 68% in squad cost to revenue currently, if we qualify for Europe need to be at 70% for new rules from next season. We need to remove players from the wage bill to make room. Have the new rules actually been voted in yet? The vote back in April was only 'in principle', and in June they voted to trial the squad cost rules this season. Also, we don't know the full details what the proposed rules are, I know it has been reported as including amortisation, but that seems bonkers and unworkable, pretty much every club would fail. In the UEFA rules the limit is just on wages and agent fees, not amortisation. So it would seem incredibly restrictive for the PL to restrict wages, agent fees and amortisation to 70% (or 85% if not in Europe). The PL press release in june that said "SCR will regulate on-pitch spend to a proportion (85 per cent) of a club’s football revenue and net profit/loss on player sales." I don't think that is the same thing as including amortisation. Edited Monday at 20:38 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Monday at 20:38 Share Posted Monday at 20:38 Did we not vote for this new version of rules, or was that something else ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted Monday at 20:47 Share Posted Monday at 20:47 8 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Did we not vote for this new version of rules, or was that something else ? Was it not a trial run of ‘anchoring? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted Monday at 20:56 Share Posted Monday at 20:56 (edited) 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: Did we not vote for this new version of rules, or was that something else ? We did, along with every other club back in April, but that was apparently just in principle and was reported as aligning with UEFA's rules. Edited Monday at 22:24 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Monday at 21:09 Share Posted Monday at 21:09 21 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: Was it not a trial run of ‘anchoring? Honestly no idea anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Monday at 21:18 Share Posted Monday at 21:18 41 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Have the new rules actually been voted in yet? The vote back in April was only 'in principle', and in June they voted to trial the squad cost rules this season. Also, we don't know the full details what the proposed rules are, I know it has been reported as including amortisation, but that seems bonkers and unworkable, pretty much every club would fail. In the UEFA rules the limit is just on wages and agent fees, not amortisation. So it would seem incredibly restrictive for the PL to restrict wages, agent fees and amortisation to 70% (or 85% if not in Europe). The PL press release in june that said "SCR will regulate on-pitch spend to a proportion (85 per cent) of a club’s football revenue and net profit/loss on player sales." I don't think that is the same thing as including amortisation. Net profit / loss is based on amortisation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted Monday at 21:23 Share Posted Monday at 21:23 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: Net profit / loss is based on amortisation Yes but "on player sales" is the important bit. For example a club buys a player for £20m on a 5 year contract. After one season his amortised value is £16m, the club sells him at the point for 24m, that is a net profit of £8m which is added to the turnover figure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted Monday at 21:32 Share Posted Monday at 21:32 Hmmm a bit of a Google search would suggest that amortisation is included in the scr for both UEFA and the premier league. It seems a tad unfair that you include it in your costs and then have to deduct any unamortized value from a transfer fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted Monday at 21:35 Share Posted Monday at 21:35 51 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Have the new rules actually been voted in yet? The vote back in April was only 'in principle', and in June they voted to trial the squad cost rules this season. Also, we don't know the full details what the proposed rules are, I know it has been reported as including amortisation, but that seems bonkers and unworkable, pretty much every club would fail. In the UEFA rules the limit is just on wages and agent fees, not amortisation. So it would seem incredibly restrictive for the PL to restrict wages, agent fees and amortisation to 70% (or 85% if not in Europe). The PL press release in june that said "SCR will regulate on-pitch spend to a proportion (85 per cent) of a club’s football revenue and net profit/loss on player sales." I don't think that is the same thing as including amortisation. Yes you’re right they’re to be trialled alongside current PSR rules from next season, but UEFA has the 70% in place I believe, so not sure if any club breaching it will fall foul if competing in Europe next season ? Not sure most reports i read said amortisation will be included and assessed yearly, as opposed to 3 year rolling period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted Monday at 21:37 Share Posted Monday at 21:37 (edited) If this Amor Tisation lad can play right wing then let’s just get him signed before the transfer window SLAMS SHUT Edited Monday at 21:38 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted Monday at 21:43 Share Posted Monday at 21:43 6 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: Hmmm a bit of a Google search would suggest that amortisation is included in the scr for both UEFA and the premier league. It seems a tad unfair that you include it in your costs and then have to deduct any unamortized value from a transfer fee. K.1.3 Amortisations/impairment of relevant persons’ costs are calculated from the licensee’s annual financial statements and/or interim financial statements as defined in Annex G. Annex G from UEFA rulebook for anyone who can understand and what the PL rules will trial. https://documents.uefa.com/r/UEFA-Club-Licensing-and-Financial-Sustainability-Regulations-2024/Annex-G-Accounting-requirements-for-the-preparation-of-financial-statements-Online Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted Monday at 21:49 Share Posted Monday at 21:49 Isn't football exciting, these days eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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