Colos Short and Curlies Posted Monday at 21:51 Share Posted Monday at 21:51 6 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: K.1.3 Amortisations/impairment of relevant persons’ costs are calculated from the licensee’s annual financial statements and/or interim financial statements as defined in Annex G. Annex G from UEFA rulebook for anyone who can understand and what the PL rules will trial. https://documents.uefa.com/r/UEFA-Club-Licensing-and-Financial-Sustainability-Regulations-2024/Annex-G-Accounting-requirements-for-the-preparation-of-financial-statements-Online It's basically transfer fee divided by length of contract with adjustments for new contracts or where there is a reason to devalue the player. The rest is accounting jargon that says follow the accounting rules Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted Monday at 21:54 Share Posted Monday at 21:54 10 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: K.1.3 Amortisations/impairment of relevant persons’ costs are calculated from the licensee’s annual financial statements and/or interim financial statements as defined in Annex G. Annex G from UEFA rulebook for anyone who can understand and what the PL rules will trial. https://documents.uefa.com/r/UEFA-Club-Licensing-and-Financial-Sustainability-Regulations-2024/Annex-G-Accounting-requirements-for-the-preparation-of-financial-statements-Online Just looking through that and seems that I was wrong and @Colos Short and Curlies is right, amortisation costs are included but, strangely, profit on player sales is over 36 months whereas everything else is over 12 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Monday at 21:56 Share Posted Monday at 21:56 Any rumours? No? Just more spreadsheet wankery. Every fucking thread, I swear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted Monday at 22:08 Share Posted Monday at 22:08 13 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Just looking through that and seems that I was wrong and @Colos Short and Curlies is right, amortisation costs are included but, strangely, profit on player sales is over 36 months whereas everything else is over 12 months. Sounds like nice and simple for the fans to follow what's going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted Monday at 22:14 Share Posted Monday at 22:14 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nobody said: Sounds like nice and simple for the fans to follow what's going on. It does make sense in a way.... Let's say you sell someone for £60m profit in June then if it was 1 year recognition you would lose it straight away. Spread it over 3 years and the club has a chance to recycle it into new signings. Still think it should be gross fee though and not profit. Maybe take any amortisation in the year you sell and the fee over 3, deterrent against flipping Edit, overall the scr are a lot easier to work out and give less room for Man U shenanigans Edited Monday at 22:15 by Colos Short and Curlies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumG6 Posted Monday at 22:21 Share Posted Monday at 22:21 Seeing all this talk of different UEFA rulings for amortisation just shows how fucking shite football has got (no slight against anyone here btw!) We used to discuss matches, performances, transfer talk and other stuff directly related to the game. Feel like I need to take an undergraduate degree in Law to understand the game nowadays, really is a bitter pill to swallow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted Monday at 23:45 Share Posted Monday at 23:45 1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said: Any rumours? No? Just more spreadsheet wankery. Every fucking thread, I swear. Agree. Too bad we don't have a thread specifically dedicated to this topic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted Tuesday at 01:07 Share Posted Tuesday at 01:07 3 hours ago, Lush Vlad said: Any rumours? No? Just more spreadsheet wankery. Every fucking thread, I swear. PSR Ultras strike again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted Tuesday at 05:36 Share Posted Tuesday at 05:36 You know the rules are shite when people know all about this stuff in depth. Football shouldn’t be talking about any of this, yet here we fucking are. Surrounded by spreadsheet hell instead of getting excited by the club recruiting the players we need. The only ones who should give a shit about book balancing is the CFO of the club and his finance team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted Tuesday at 07:07 Share Posted Tuesday at 07:07 (edited) 8 hours ago, CallumG6 said: Seeing all this talk of different UEFA rulings for amortisation just shows how fucking shite football has got (no slight against anyone here btw!) We used to discuss matches, performances, transfer talk and other stuff directly related to the game. Feel like I need to take an undergraduate degree in Law to understand the game nowadays, really is a bitter pill to swallow. A Law degree would be handy when it comes to discussing the ongoing APT rules hearing But if you really want to get involved in football discussions these days it’s actually PhD’s in Accountancy or Statistics (ideally both) that you need And an endless supply of ProPlus too Edited Tuesday at 07:10 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted Tuesday at 07:44 Share Posted Tuesday at 07:44 12 hours ago, Alberto2005 said: It's so boring. We must be in some PSR shit to not even able to get any kind of signing in this month given the last few windows. I can only assume both Mitchell and Howe are in agreement that the squad needs an overhaul, and unless an amazing opportunity comes available, it’s better waiting till summer when prices are more stable, can bring players in at a fresh start and it’s easier to move on a couple of players on top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted Tuesday at 08:30 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Tuesday at 08:34 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:34 Anyone know how we could afford to spent £89m on Guehi in the summer but now we've got nowt to spend? Makes no sense to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted Tuesday at 08:39 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:39 3 minutes ago, Fak said: Anyone know how we could afford to spent £89m on Guehi in the summer but now we've got nowt to spend? Makes no sense to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted Tuesday at 08:39 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:39 4 minutes ago, Fak said: Anyone know how we could afford to spent £89m on Guehi in the summer but now we've got nowt to spend? Makes no sense to me. We could spend it, but would have had to sell one of our top players before June 30th 2025 to comply with PSR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Tuesday at 08:40 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted Tuesday at 08:41 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:41 6 minutes ago, Fak said: Anyone know how we could afford to spent £89m on Guehi in the summer but now we've got nowt to spend? Makes no sense to me. According to local journos we were never as high as even 80m, hovered around 60 before walking away. And as others have said, if we'd have done that deal we likely would have had to generate it back and then some before June 2025. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Tuesday at 09:03 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:03 21 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: According to local journos we were never as high as even 80m, hovered around 60 before walking away. And as others have said, if we'd have done that deal we likely would have had to generate it back and then some before June 2025. No more than £55m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted Tuesday at 09:08 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:08 4 minutes ago, Shearergol said: No more than £55m Mr. Pigden? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted Tuesday at 11:00 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:00 What do you guys reckon? £60m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 11:03 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:03 1 minute ago, Erikse said: What do you guys reckon? £60m? It’s not happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted Tuesday at 11:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:06 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It’s not happening It's a joke haha. Satire towards the Arsenal fans about the Isak stuff. Edited Tuesday at 11:08 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyt Posted Tuesday at 11:08 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:08 Would be a decent cover for Murphy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted Tuesday at 11:09 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:09 I'm well up for us banging on about Saka in response to their concerted Isak effort tbh. I imagine their fans with have a proper hissy fit over it too, the hypocritical bellends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted Tuesday at 11:10 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:10 Just now, wormy said: I'm well up for us banging on about Saka in response to their concerted Isak effort tbh. I imagine their fans with have a proper hissy fit over it too, the hypocritical bellends. Love the replies, they're like "you can't afford him" etc. Oh, so being realistic is a thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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