The College Dropout Posted Monday at 07:42 Share Posted Monday at 07:42 Takeaway penalties and Murphy and Mbeumo’s G/A will be similar which is fine. It’s difficult to beat Murphy on that. But it’s his all round game that Murphy is weak. Mbeumo improves our ability to keep possession and is lethal in transition. I’m just not sure we need that profile of RW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted Monday at 07:43 Share Posted Monday at 07:43 Just now, The College Dropout said: £60m for Mbeumo is about right but could also be too expensive for us. Yeah, 60m is about right for a top-notch RW who'll make us better. Lots of people want Akliouche, for instance, but he's going for seventy million euros. A good winger in Europe will cost at least fifty million pounds, plus there's the settling-in period – it might work, it might not. It's a tough one, really, if you're Howe. Unless we take a chance on some unknown player, but that means Murphy starts at RW next season while we wait for this new guy to get going. Which could go either way. Tough one, again. With players like Bruno, Isak, and Tonali, we gotta push harder now, or they'll walk. I get why Howe wants Premier League-level talent like Mbeumo. As safe and sound as can be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted Monday at 07:44 Share Posted Monday at 07:44 Giving Mbuemo top wages will probably cost us millions more by having to bump up the rest of our purples to match Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted Monday at 07:47 Share Posted Monday at 07:47 1 minute ago, Ben said: Giving Mbuemo top wages will probably cost us millions more by having to bump up the rest of our purples to match Mbeumo earns about 45k a week, so I don't think fitting his wages into our budget will be an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted Monday at 07:47 Share Posted Monday at 07:47 The time to buy him was a few years ago. I’ve always thought that ultimately he’s now going to be too expensive for us, and quite likely we are being used to snuff out the likes of Man Utd who will throw £200k per week contract at him. I’ve banged on about it for quite a bit and a couple of years now, but I think Kubo would be perfect for us, and would likely cost a lot less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Monday at 07:52 Share Posted Monday at 07:52 7 minutes ago, tarie4 said: Yeah, 60m is about right for a top-notch RW who'll make us better. Lots of people want Akliouche, for instance, but he's going for seventy million euros. A good winger in Europe will cost at least fifty million pounds, plus there's the settling-in period – it might work, it might not. It's a tough one, really, if you're Howe. Unless we take a chance on some unknown player, but that means Murphy starts at RW next season while we wait for this new guy to get going. Which could go either way. Tough one, again. With players like Bruno, Isak, and Tonali, we gotta push harder now, or they'll walk. I get why Howe wants Premier League-level talent like Mbeumo. As safe and sound as can be. Settling in period is a bit of a myth. Which of our foreign signings needed a settling-in period? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted Monday at 07:53 Share Posted Monday at 07:53 It really depends on how much you trust Nickson. I just know that he has recommended Doue to the management and we chose Barnes instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted Monday at 07:54 Share Posted Monday at 07:54 Just now, The College Dropout said: Settling in period is a bit of a myth. Which of our foreign signings needed a settling-in period? Tonali was terrible to begin with. The year out gave him time to settle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Monday at 07:55 Share Posted Monday at 07:55 1 minute ago, Zero said: It really depends on how much you trust Nickson. I just know that he has recommended Doue to the management and we chose Barnes instead Where has this come from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted Monday at 07:57 Share Posted Monday at 07:57 Mbeumo scored five penalties last season meaning he scored fifteen goalscoring opportunities along with seven assists. We’ll be idiots if we don’t go in for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted Monday at 07:57 Share Posted Monday at 07:57 Trafford in. Pope to Leeds’s today’s talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Monday at 07:58 Share Posted Monday at 07:58 1 minute ago, tarie4 said: Tonali was terrible to begin with. The year out gave him time to settle. I don’t think he was terrible. That was a tactical thing mainly which will be the same for any signing. In any case, he had about 2 months playing time, and another 2 months when he came back before hitting top form. Isak, Botman, Bruno all hit the ground running. Especially Isak and Botman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Monday at 07:59 Share Posted Monday at 07:59 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Where has this come from? Idiots on twitter who make things up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Monday at 08:03 Share Posted Monday at 08:03 9 minutes ago, Zero said: It really depends on how much you trust Nickson. I just know that he has recommended Doue to the management and we chose Barnes instead I very much doubt there was ever a choice between Barnes or a 17yo from a different league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted Monday at 08:05 Share Posted Monday at 08:05 9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Where has this come from? Most likely we didn't "choose" Barnes... These stories mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted Monday at 08:15 Share Posted Monday at 08:15 30 minutes ago, tarie4 said: With players like Bruno, Isak, and Tonali, we gotta push harder now, or they'll walk. I see this sentiment get peddled daily but …? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted Monday at 08:17 Share Posted Monday at 08:17 22 minutes ago, tarie4 said: Tonali was terrible to begin with. The year out gave him time to settle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted Monday at 08:18 Share Posted Monday at 08:18 11 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I don’t think he was terrible. That was a tactical thing mainly which will be the same for any signing. In any case, he had about 2 months playing time, and another 2 months when he came back before hitting top form. Isak, Botman, Bruno all hit the ground running. Especially Isak and Botman. Dude, even you said he needed more commitment back then. Let's not make things up. Tonali just wasn't good enough to start with. Like I said, it might work, it might not. We just have to trust in our management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted Monday at 08:20 Share Posted Monday at 08:20 19 minutes ago, STM said: Idiots on twitter who make things up. Hope so I always wonder why didn’t we sign more 17-19 youngsters from other leagues. I even ain’t sure the Spanish kid has signed or not - till today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted Monday at 08:21 Share Posted Monday at 08:21 2 minutes ago, cubaricho said: Check out his thread. You'll cringe at what people said about him, especially before he got banned.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted Monday at 08:21 Share Posted Monday at 08:21 (edited) 51 minutes ago, geordie john said: My thoughts on the Mbuemo rumour (is there any real proof?) is that he's a 25 year old at the peak of his game, will command at least £50m fee, high wages and 1st team action. Nothing wrong with that except for a minor detail called Murphy. He's a 30 year old at the peak of his game, had an amazing season and costs a fraction of Mbuemo's wages. I'm all for the need for quality of depth of the squad but do we really need to replace Murphy right now? wouldn't it be better to buy a much cheaper, younger, 'up and coming' right winger (a bit like Dibling but not him) give him a yeat to be Howe'd and then gradually replace Murphy. Jesus Christ Edited Monday at 08:22 by Roids Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowgatePigeon Posted Monday at 08:23 Share Posted Monday at 08:23 I'm fucking sick of this window already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted Monday at 08:26 Share Posted Monday at 08:26 6 minutes ago, cubaricho said: I see this sentiment get peddled daily but …? We're saying Isak's the world's best striker, right? But if that's true, shouldn't he be playing Champions League and always fighting for titles? So we gotta show him he can reach his goals with us, and we can reach ours with him.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Monday at 08:26 Share Posted Monday at 08:26 7 minutes ago, tarie4 said: Dude, even you said he needed more commitment back then. Let's not make things up. Tonali just wasn't good enough to start with. Like I said, it might work, it might not. We just have to trust in our management. He was weak against Brighton but overall he wasn't terrible. And most of the issue was tactical. It didn't resolve when he had a year to settle in either. It was only resolved with the tactical shift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted Monday at 08:27 Share Posted Monday at 08:27 51 minutes ago, geordie john said: My thoughts on the Mbuemo rumour (is there any real proof?) is that he's a 25 year old at the peak of his game, will command at least £50m fee, high wages and 1st team action. Nothing wrong with that except for a minor detail called Murphy. He's a 30 year old at the peak of his game, had an amazing season and costs a fraction of Mbuemo's wages. I'm all for the need for quality of depth of the squad but do we really need to replace Murphy right now? wouldn't it be better to buy a much cheaper, younger, 'up and coming' right winger (a bit like Dibling but not him) give him a yeat to be Howe'd and then gradually replace Murphy. It's not a crazy shout but even if you want to keep Murphy as first choice, he doesn't keep to these levels without genuine, high quality competition imo. According to the manager, we are able to invest heavily this window, which wasn't possible before and may not be possible after. It makes sense to maximise the opportunity by going big on something like RW now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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