Jaqen Posted yesterday at 08:31 Share Posted yesterday at 08:31 The CM issue definitely needs sorted this summer, we have 6 and the secondary 3 are a massive stepdown from any of the main 3. Miley ahead in the pecking order of the reserves but you basically wouldn't want any of them starting for an extended period of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted yesterday at 08:37 Share Posted yesterday at 08:37 59 minutes ago, Izakaya said: Yes but he takes ages doing it. Miley has been on the outer fringe for two seasons now, I can see why he's getting frustrated. One season. Even by Howe’s own admission he played far too much in 23/24 (through necessity). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 08:39 Share Posted yesterday at 08:39 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: I'm so confused, you told me we are 2-3 players from winning the league. Now we aren't going to qualify for the champions league. Your thinking is extremely short term, this can't be done quickly, the rules which we seem to be happy to abide for slow the whole project. Why sell Miley now? How much do you think we can get for him? I think we have a manager who has shown he's pretty much unrivaled at developing talent, we have a young player who at 17 looked perfectly comfortable at premier league level, let them cook man. We are an excellent side. We lack pace at CB, quality at RW and depth/quality at CM and in attack. Address that and not lose players we frequently play - we are a 80-85 point team with some luck. Thats the quality of the current Aston Villa squad. Where they had Onana, Maatsen, Watkins, Malen on the bench when everyone was fit. The current Arsenal squad which would have Merino, Calafiori, Jesus, Jorginho, Ben White on the bench with everyone fit. Thats the level. The upcoming season is the most important. We don’t qualify for the CL so we keep Isak and Tonali? Do we get top dollar if we do want to sell them? CL is now £50-80m every season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 08:39 Share Posted yesterday at 08:39 8 minutes ago, Jaqen said: The CM issue definitely needs sorted this summer, we have 6 and the secondary 3 are a massive stepdown from any of the main 3. Miley ahead in the pecking order of the reserves but you basically wouldn't want any of them starting for an extended period of time. This is it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted yesterday at 08:42 Share Posted yesterday at 08:42 I also think if Miley left, we'd get a new CM, and also think one of Longstaff or Willock will go with them being replaced as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted yesterday at 08:42 Share Posted yesterday at 08:42 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: We are an excellent side. We lack pace at CB, quality at RW and depth/quality at CM and in attack. Address that and not lose players we frequently play - we are a 80-85 point team with some luck. Thats the quality of the current Aston Villa squad. Where they had Onana, Maatsen, Watkins, Malen on the bench when everyone was fit. The current Arsenal squad which would have Merino, Calafiori, Jesus, Jorginho, Ben White on the bench with everyone fit. Thats the level. The upcoming season is the most important. We don’t qualify for the CL so we keep Isak and Tonali? Do we get top dollar if we do want to sell them? CL is now £50-80m every season. 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: This is it. You've ignored every point or question I've asked. Never the less I agree the midfield needs fixing to a wider extent, and I anticipate this will be addressed. I doubt Longstaff has any future with us and Willocks future is also in question imo. That will raise funds and allow us to streamline the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted yesterday at 08:42 Share Posted yesterday at 08:42 Can we develop an 'imbedded tweet only' notification for this thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 08:46 Share Posted yesterday at 08:46 10 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Would that not mean you'd have the likes of Murphy, new striker, Schar, Burn & Pope join the likes of Barnes & Trippier on the bench, which is pretty strong? Yes. We should be looking at playing 55ish games next season. High intensity top level games. I feel like Bruno G has never been rested for a full game he’s been fit for the entirety of the time he’s been here. (I’m personally happy to start Pope and have Dubs on the bench bur whatever). I think we can get away with a 10/striker hybrid Cunha/JP/Alvarez mould, RW, CB. Play with 1 less CM at points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 08:48 Share Posted yesterday at 08:48 4 minutes ago, r0cafella said: You've ignored every point or question I've asked. Never the less I agree the midfield needs fixing to a wider extent, and I anticipate this will be addressed. I doubt Longstaff has any future with us and Willocks future is also in question imo. That will raise funds and allow us to streamline the squad. That will also mean Miley barely plays again. What good is that for him or us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted yesterday at 08:53 Share Posted yesterday at 08:53 There's holes all over the squad. Yep, lose one of Bruno, Tonali or Joelinton and the drop off is huge. However, lose Isak and the drop off is even bigger. Lose Murphy (can't believe I've typing this) and the drop off is huge. Lose Schar and the drop off is huge. The club will know this. Selling your 4th best midfielder isn't the answer to fixing any of those issues, unless we sell him for £50m+ which really isn't happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted yesterday at 08:54 Share Posted yesterday at 08:54 The squad still needs a fair bit of surgery before we're capable of competing on multiple fronts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted yesterday at 09:00 Share Posted yesterday at 09:00 5 minutes ago, Shearergol said: There's holes all over the squad. Yep, lose one of Bruno, Tonali or Joelinton and the drop off is huge. However, lose Isak and the drop off is even bigger. Lose Murphy (can't believe I've typing this) and the drop off is huge. Lose Schar and the drop off is huge. The club will know this. Selling your 4th best midfielder isn't the answer to fixing any of those issues, unless we sell him for £50m+ which really isn't happening. Agree with most of the holes but Schar can be replaced by Botman/Burn and Lascelles and Krafth are not a huge dip either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted yesterday at 09:03 Share Posted yesterday at 09:03 2 minutes ago, James said: Agree with most of the holes but Schar can be replaced by Botman/Burn and Lascelles and Krafth are not a huge dip either If Lascelles or Krafth ever have to start a run of games after this summer, the club have failed massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted yesterday at 09:18 Share Posted yesterday at 09:18 17 minutes ago, James said: Agree with most of the holes but Schar can be replaced by Botman/Burn and Lascelles and Krafth are not a huge dip either Losing Schär means we lose a lot of ability with the ball. Replacing him with a left footer is massive loss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted yesterday at 09:22 Share Posted yesterday at 09:22 56 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: We won’t qualify for the CL again next season if we don’t have several Barnes, Joelinton, Trippier level players on the bench when everyone is fit. We won’t qualify for the CL again if we don’t buy a first team quality CM/10 this season - unless Miley is that player at 20 years old. For me it’s that simple. Villa couldn’t do it with half a season with a super squad. We barely managed it with no Europe. A winger, backup striker, CB and GK won’t be enough We could sell Miley for £30m and sign Matt O'Rilley as replacement. People probably big that up, but for me that literally doesn't lift the bar. Miley is a good player, we can keep him and still sign a good CM after selling Longstaff and Willock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted yesterday at 09:28 Share Posted yesterday at 09:28 4 minutes ago, Sibierski said: We could sell Miley for £30m and sign Matt O'Rilley as replacement. People probably big that up, but for me that literally doesn't lift the bar. Miley is a good player, we can keep him and still sign a good CM after selling Longstaff and Willock. Sell them to who though? Not hearing of interest in either of them tbh. Players have to want to leave too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted yesterday at 09:45 Share Posted yesterday at 09:45 44 minutes ago, James said: Agree with most of the holes but Schar can be replaced by Botman/Burn and Lascelles and Krafth are not a huge dip either When Schar was suspended for the red teams absolutely went for the jugular with the press, his quality on the ball and press resistance is massive for how we play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 10:02 Share Posted yesterday at 10:02 1 hour ago, Shearergol said: There's holes all over the squad. Yep, lose one of Bruno, Tonali or Joelinton and the drop off is huge. However, lose Isak and the drop off is even bigger. Lose Murphy (can't believe I've typing this) and the drop off is huge. Lose Schar and the drop off is huge. The club will know this. Selling your 4th best midfielder isn't the answer to fixing any of those issues, unless we sell him for £50m+ which really isn't happening. Not really. Botman x Burn was solid. Agree with the others. Miley isn't our 4th best midfielder according to Howe. £15m pays for Tonali/Onana for a season. Would rather not sell but he does need football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted yesterday at 10:04 Share Posted yesterday at 10:04 1 hour ago, JT24 said: If Lascelles or Krafth ever have to start a run of games after this summer, the club have failed massively. Not really. Krafth will go into next season as our reserve RB and he is perfectly fine for that role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted yesterday at 10:06 Share Posted yesterday at 10:06 Just now, jonny1403 said: Not really. Krafth will go into next season as our reserve RB and he is perfectly fine for that role. Krafth benefits from playing a handful of games a year. Anything more than that and it’ll become evident he is painfully average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted yesterday at 10:06 Share Posted yesterday at 10:06 Lascelles and krafth are good back up if we have an injury crisis. Agree, Miley should be loaned out to a lower prem team or at worst top championship team. We need a couple of midfielders to cover for any sales (willock/longstaff) and also the positions we know need covering from a long time ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellis80 Posted yesterday at 10:12 Share Posted yesterday at 10:12 I think the four Arsenal games were probably our best performances of the season and we were missing one of the midfield three in all of them. The three of them being able to run like fuck is much of our play and Miley isn’t that. A loan for him would be ideal but we’d need at least two in if Longstaff goes to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted yesterday at 10:27 Share Posted yesterday at 10:27 40 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: When Schar was suspended for the red teams absolutely went for the jugular with the press, his quality on the ball and press resistance is massive for how we play. I don’t think anyone disagrees that we can improve CB but there will be finite funds and a Schar injury is significantly less catastrophic than an Isak or Joelinton injury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted yesterday at 10:32 Share Posted yesterday at 10:32 I'd be absolutely devastated if Miley left. I really want him to become a key part of the team in the coming years and I'm sure he will. It's shite what football has become - having to sell good academy players for PSR reasons - absolute bollocks. One of the goals I've felt the most joy in the past few years was when he scored right in front of me at the Gallowgate against Fulham. Fuck selling him. He's probably the best talent we've produced in a generation. Despite our amazing season, I couldn't help but be jealous (and happy too I may add) of watching Anderson excel at Forest. You should always have local lads in the squad representing the city and living all of our dreams. Always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted yesterday at 10:51 Share Posted yesterday at 10:51 11 hours ago, madras said: Throw Kuol in then and Shahar you never know until you give them a chance. Hall played 10 times for Chelsea, not really a breakthrough, hence why they sold him. Yeah, I'd love to see them given a chance too. Some rise to the occasion, some don't. Chelsea sold Hall for psr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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