NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Dr.Spaceman]

52 minutes ago, Rich said:

Is anyone else worried that we're moving so fast that it actually looks like we're doing nowt?

 

It's like watching the F1 on the tele, you just don't get the sense of speed unless you're there

[southernmag]

46 minutes ago, Mahoneys Tache said:

We’re not signing grealish. Get a fucking grip. 

 

Thank you Nostradamus.

[ExiledGeordie]

Just now, southernmag said:

 

Thank you Nostradamus.

😂

[Optimistic Nut]

47 minutes ago, Mahoneys Tache said:

We’re not signing grealish. Get a fucking grip. 

 

Can't wait for the video reveal of him getting our 24 shirt and him saying he can't wait to play like Almiron, with a safety wink. 

[macphisto]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

Rashford did ok. Isco. It’s uncommon but not unheard of.  

We're really scraping the barrel for examples if we're using Rashford. I don't see many teams going for him after his loan spell which says it all. 

 

Best examples I can think of would be Cantona or Dennis Bergkamp who did well over here but that was where they didn't settle in another league or had problems. 

[jonny1403]

2 hours ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

I know where you're coming from but....

 

 

He's clearly not 'shit', he's just playing in an incredibly boring Manchester City side.

 

Scott Carson has all of those honours except for the Villa ones...

[Fak]

We don't need a winger who sidesteps down the wing the ball for 10 yards before passing it 5 yards backwards. I'd rather we just stuck Krafth on the wing if we wanted someone to do that.

[macphisto]

1 hour ago, Sibierski said:

Coutinho and Rodriguez are two of similar moulds. When there’s a rich talent, you can drain the last bit out. A permanent move wouldn’t be wise, but loan is fine (it’s just injuries I’d worry about).

Coutinho, where did he do well after Liverpool? You mean his initial loan at Villa from Barcelona? 

 

The club talks about trying to use more data in their recruitment and it's instances like Grealish where it should be used as it would raise so many red flags. It's not just about using data to identify certain characteristics in a player but to also help in decision making. 

[Lordshola]

Mad some of you wouldn’t take Grealish if it was an option.

 

Have we forgotten what happened a couple of seasons ago where we were decimated and had 3 goalkeepers on the bench?

 

A direct, quick winger is no good against a low block, which is what we will be facing more of imo. Grealish is great at keeping possession, winning free kicks and has the ability to provide a bit of creativity which we are sorely lacking.

[Kid Icarus]

30 minutes ago, macphisto said:

None of them left a club where they weren't getting a game at their peak playing age, not remotely like Grealish. All those players moved on when they were young to make their name or were playing for the team they left. 

 

See my follow up reply to healthyaddiction

[SUPERTOON]

7 minutes ago, Lordshola said:

Mad some of you wouldn’t take Grealish if it was an option.

 

Have we forgotten what happened a couple of seasons ago where we were decimated and had 3 goalkeepers on the bench?

 

A direct, quick winger is no good against a low block, which is what we will be facing more of imo. Grealish is great at keeping possession, winning free kicks and has the ability to provide a bit of creativity which we are sorely lacking.

Mad that some would take him imo.

[WilliamPS]

Grealish, like Sancho, would be good at the right price, but due to their current salaries there’s zero chance they come for the right price.

 

At £10m and 80k pw in wages it would be a good deal. But as they’re both on 300k pw they’d never go for it, their accountants would break their legs on the way to the medical. 

[Ikon]

Offer Chelsea a 25m loan fee for Madueke with a 25m obligation to buy next year. If not acceptable then say around 45 something for a permanent now. Think he’d become class under Eddie in a more settled environment as well as being a key player. His output will go up quickly imo. 

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Ikon

[simonsays]

29 minutes ago, macphisto said:

We're really scraping the barrel for examples if we're using Rashford. I don't see many teams going for him after his loan spell which says it all. 

 

Best examples I can think of would be Cantona or Dennis Bergkamp who did well over here but that was where they didn't settle in another league or had problems. 

Chris Wood?

[SUPERTOON]

18 minutes ago, Ikon said:

Offer Chelsea a 25m loan fee for Madueke with a 25m obligation to buy next year. If not acceptable then say around 45 something for a permanent now. Think he’d become class under Eddie in a more settled environment as well as being a key player. His output will go up quickly imo. 

 

 

 

Think i would prefer Elanga to Madueke tbh (assuming same price for both).

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Definitely prefer Madueke in terms of style and technique. But if we prefer Elanga then I guess the usual trust the process applies. 

[Ikon]

3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Think i would prefer Elanga to Madueke tbh (assuming same price for both).

Fair enough. I think Madueke offers a lot more by being less limited. He’s better technically and in general play. His output can get better rather easily. Can’t teach Elanga natural ability on the ball imo. Madueke can be effective in both transitions as well as against a low block. 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Ikon

[gazza ladra]

42 minutes ago, macphisto said:

We're really scraping the barrel for examples if we're using Rashford. I don't see many teams going for him after his loan spell which says it all. 

 

Best examples I can think of would be Cantona or Dennis Bergkamp who did well over here but that was where they didn't settle in another league or had problems. 

It's his salary. Big problem in a PSR world.  Not that many clubs could afford him before... I'd imagine that City will find it difficult to find a buyer for Grealish.

[ponsaelius]

Madueke style over substance tekkers.

 

Elanga is a better finisher, crosser, set piece taker.

[TRon]

51 minutes ago, southernmag said:

 

Thank you Nostradamus.

 

This is what we need, more no nonsense posters like @Mahoneys Tache willing to stick their neck out. 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by TRon

[Kanj]

How many times did we lose or drop points to a legit low block last season? And how many times did we drop points or lose for other reasons (didn’t take chances, errors, etc)?

[Stottie]

Going back before the Madueke/Elanga talk, but if its loans or loans to buy, I'd like Nkunku or Douglas Luiz, not Sancho or Grealish. Someone now persona non gratia but whose big output at their previous club was the season or two seasons before maximum, not effectively ancient history of seasons long gone. Youngish players who've gone to Saudi prematurely and are now bored and want to get back to proper football would also qualify as damaged but interesting goods. In this case, its bargain hunting and getting what's out there worth a punt, rather than zeroing in on any profile, as you would do with a regular buy like Madueke/Elanga.

 

With wages, my concern is that we probably don't want to sign anyone pricey until we tie up Isak on a new deal that will make him our highest earner. I presume we are working on this actively already to get it done and that we're going to do whatever it takes to keep him, smashing our current wage ceiling in the process. On the plus side, doing so will probably create more scope/mental resolution for paying more than we'd currently like to secure the services of other new purples. As it stands before he signs, its understandable if there are "we can't pay Mbeumo that because Isak will want that times 1.5" fears.

 

 

[Stottie]

8 minutes ago, Kanj said:

How many times did we lose or drop points to a legit low block last season? And how many times did we drop points or lose for other reasons (didn’t take chances, errors, etc)?

I'm going to have to go on a Youtube hunt for a "how to beat a low block" tactics video.

As an old man, I hope its "put a big man up front and stick it in the mixer" 

[Displayname]

3 minutes ago, Lordshola said:

Mad some of you wouldn’t take Grealish if it was an option.

 

Have we forgotten what happened a couple of seasons ago where we were decimated and had 3 goalkeepers on the bench?

 

A direct, quick winger is no good against a low block, which is what we will be facing more of imo. Grealish is great at keeping possession, winning free kicks and has the ability to provide a bit of creativity which we are sorely lacking.

Its not that i dont want a bigger squad and a player who can open up a low block.

Its just that there must be better options out there. Him not thriving at City tells me that he is not that great against a low block anyways.

He also has a contract of £15m a year. We can all imagine that City will cover a big chunk of this and/or he will accept a lower wage, but nothing suggests that tbh.

 

If we are ever going to compete with the top 6 long term we need to be financially smart in everything we do. That generally means buying younger players with their better days ahead of them. 

I know that Trippier and Burn were exceptions to this rule and that it turned out to be great business for us. But both were cheap and we were at a different stage. Can't see Graelish sharing their story.

[Ikon]

Elanga has better output overall apart from goals, and he has played a lot more minutes. I’m not gonna disagree and say that Madueke is better finisher, probably not atm. I just think Madueke would flourish under Eddie in a more settled environment where he’s allowed to find consistent instead of tossed around the pitch and the bench here and there and with Chelsea’s possession for the sake of it at times. Imo you cannot underestimate what that settled environment can do to you on the whole. Madueke often creates chances as well as getting himself into good chances. Just need Eddie to fine tune things and allow him to get proper momentum. Also not sure how many chances I’ve seen Jackson miss, created by Madueke.