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 I can kinda see where they're coming from. If he manages to have a solid, injury-free season, they could suddenly find themselves fielding offers from several top clubs. Why sell now at a discount?

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1 minute ago, McCormick said:

 I can kinda see where they're coming from. If he manages to have a solid, injury-free season, they could suddenly find themselves fielding offers from several top clubs. Why sell now at a discount?

We will need to pay close to what that value would be. £60m odd. Pretty much what we did with Tino.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

 

Translation of the article it cites:

 

"Giorgio Scalvini is untouchable . Atalanta has forcefully reiterated its no to Newcastle , who in recent days has tested the waters for the central defender from Bergamo, offering significant figures. The Goddess' response was dry: between 40 and 50 million, a valuation that far exceeds the player's current market value. Despite last season's injuries, in fact, the Nerazzurri club considers the 2003-born player an asset on which to base the defense of the future."

 

Assuming the translation is vaguely accurate, it seems to be saying that Atalanta is simultaneously saying he's not for sale... unless you offer us 40-50m euros, which they consider to be a "fuck off" price of sorts due to his injury? 50m euros would be about what we paid for Tino. I could see us paying up tbh

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Ellis H said:

Howe wouldn’t have been talking about speed and early June transfers for weeks if he knew we would be deliberately waiting till July.

 

Wouldn’t take what EH says on transfers at face value. Even if you did he never said we WOULD sign someone in June. Opportunities might arise in the last couple of days of June nothing more. He said he’d IDEALLY like a couple in in time for 7th July.

 

Long way to go for both in transfer window terms.

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4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

We will need to pay close to what that value would be. £60m odd. Pretty much what we did with Tino.

 

Pretty high though, suggests he'd be £100m if fit and no question marks?

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23 minutes ago, Ellis H said:

Howe wouldn’t have been talking about speed and early June transfers for weeks if he knew we would be deliberately waiting till July.

 

Did he mention June specifically? I would call first half of July pretty early TBH. 

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"Sean Longstaff is untouchable . Newcastle has forcefully reiterated its no to Atalanta , who in recent days has tested the waters for the central midfielder from North Sheilds, offering significant figures. The Geordies' response was dry: between 40 and 50 million, a valuation that far exceeds the player's current market value. Despite last season's injuries, in fact, the Tyneside club considers the 1997-born player an asset on which to base the Midfield of the future."

 

 

Straight swap ?

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5 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Did he mention June specifically? I would call first half of July pretty early TBH. 

 

‘It's great that the window opens on June 1,’ he said. ‘The challenge is for us to sign players in early June. But it doesn't always work like that. I hope in reality it does, but it rarely works like that.

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6 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 

Wouldn’t take what EH says on transfers at face value. Even if you did he never said we WOULD sign someone in June. Opportunities might arise in the last couple of days of June nothing more. He said he’d IDEALLY like a couple in in time for 7th July.

 

Long way to go for both in transfer window terms.


He said we’d be trying to sign players in early June. He very clearly wants players in early and July isn’t early when the window has been open for a month by then.

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10 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said:

 

Translation of the article it cites:

 

"Giorgio Scalvini is untouchable . Atalanta has forcefully reiterated its no to Newcastle , who in recent days has tested the waters for the central defender from Bergamo, offering significant figures. The Goddess' response was dry: between 40 and 50 million, a valuation that far exceeds the player's current market value. Despite last season's injuries, in fact, the Nerazzurri club considers the 2003-born player an asset on which to base the defense of the future."

 

Assuming the translation is vaguely accurate, it seems to be saying that Atalanta is simultaneously saying he's not for sale... unless you offer us 40-50m euros, which they consider to be a "fuck off" price of sorts due to his injury? 50m euros would be about what we paid for Tino. I could see us paying up tbh

 

 

 

 

 

I think that's an iffy translation, reads like we've went in at 40/50m but their valuation far exceeds that.

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If we are interested in Scalvini and potentially Diomande, it seems highly unlikely that we wouldn't still retain an interest in Tapsoba.

 

Add Guehi in there and im more than happy with the standard they are looking at.

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2 hours ago, Fak said:

We're not yet in a position to always buy players who are the cream of the crop. Until we are we're going to have to make do with moves for players like these and hope Howe does his magic on them and hope they're injuries are behind them. See Livramento. 

Will we ever be in that position 🤔? It could take a couple of generations to get anywhere near it. 

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2 minutes ago, Ellis H said:


He said we’d be trying to sign players in early June. He very clearly wants players in early and July isn’t early when the window has been open for a month by then.

He never said that once. He said along the lines of we were vulnerable last year and clubs took advantage (Brighton, Forest). We are not vulnerable this year and might be in a position to do that to other clubs but wasn’t sure.

 

If you make things up and get disappointed you only have yourself to blame.

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18 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said:

 

Translation of the article it cites:

 

"Giorgio Scalvini is untouchable . Atalanta has forcefully reiterated its no to Newcastle , who in recent days has tested the waters for the central defender from Bergamo, offering significant figures. The Goddess' response was dry: between 40 and 50 million, a valuation that far exceeds the player's current market value. Despite last season's injuries, in fact, the Nerazzurri club considers the 2003-born player an asset on which to base the defense of the future."

 

Assuming the translation is vaguely accurate, it seems to be saying that Atalanta is simultaneously saying he's not for sale... unless you offer us 40-50m euros, which they consider to be a "fuck off" price of sorts due to his injury? 50m euros would be about what we paid for Tino. I could see us paying up tbh

 

 

 

 

Classic Italian bargaining

 

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13 minutes ago, Ellis H said:

 

‘It's great that the window opens on June 1,’ he said. ‘The challenge is for us to sign players in early June. But it doesn't always work like that. I hope in reality it does, but it rarely works like that.

 

If you look closely there are no quotation marks in the article you’ve copied and paste which I’m sure you know what that means in a journalistic sense? 

 

Post the link please to examine further but even what you’ve posted confirms exactly what i said. “It doesn’t always work out like that” is the takeaway you need.

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