aussiemag Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Just now, Sibierski said: Agree, defenders that are regularly needing to do slide tackles are red flags for me. Because it usually means their positional play to start off with was wrong if needing to recover with a slide and/or, they’re hot headed and like to slide which increases the risk of giving away penalties. Looks like hes been using the slide to sweep in and cover poor positioning by other defenders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago I think you can see why we were linked heavily with Elanga with how much better we play with genuine width with Murphy's pace and hugging the right hand side. Not sure if Elanga is the answer but he looks a faster and probably more consistent player than Murphy and at a really good age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Elanga isn’t the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago How much will Elanga cost? Anything near 50m is a huge no from me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 20 minutes ago, LFEE said: Looks hard as nails but always dubious of center halves going to ground regularly. Botman and Schar say hi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Not a rumour but The Atlhletic have a few names that we may be interested in: Which players do they want? The Marc Guehi saga dominated August and Newcastle remain keen admirers. The feeling on Tyneside is that a January transfer would be difficult — though it is not being ruled out entirely, even if Botman’s return lessens the immediate need. Paul Mitchell, the sporting director, is aiming to widen the geographical landscape from which Newcastle recruit and fresh centre-back targets across Europe have been identified. Juma Bah, the 18-year-old defender who is on loan at Real Valladolid from AIK Freetong, is among them, although he is seen as one for the future rather than a first-team-ready recruit. AC Milan’s Malick Thiaw has been watched long-term, while contact was made with Bayer Leverkusen over Edmond Tapsoba in August. At right wing, the club enquired about Nottingham Forest’s Anthony Elanga during the previous window. Brentford’s Bryan Mbeumo has been linked but, while there is some admiration, it would be expensive and complicated. Moves for PSV’s Johan Bakayoko and Monaco’s Maghnes Akliouche appear unlikely this January. Burnley’s James Trafford, the 22-year-old Newcastle offered £16million ($20.2m) for in June, fits the profile of goalkeeper Howe wants. That deal is more likely to be revisited come the summer, though. Most names currently being linked are viewed internally as unrealistic when it comes to January. Newcastle admire the players mentioned above, but the expectation inside the club is that unless a significant exit occurs, any mid-season arrival is likely to be a younger profile of player, with a lower salary, rather than a marquee name. Never heard of Juma Bah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigen Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 49 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Anyone know much about him ? Not the tallest. But hard to beat and super fast. Great potential. 20 years old. This could be a great signing. For sure better than spend 70m for Guehi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Feel like Mbuemo is close to missing his window to move to us/top 6, its Jan/Summer or never. Same with Eze. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 3 minutes ago, TRC said: Feel like Mbuemo is close to missing his window to move to us/top 6, its Jan/Summer or never. Same with Eze. He's only 25, don't think it's that extreme for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Just now, joeyt said: He's only 25, don't think it's that extreme for him. Always forget how young he is, always think hes 27/28. While he is having a good season, he isn't as talismanic as he was last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, Sibierski said: Agree, defenders that are regularly needing to do slide tackles are red flags for me. Because it usually means their positional play to start off with was wrong if needing to recover with a slide and/or, they’re hot headed and like to slide which increases the risk of giving away penalties. can barely remember woodgate having to go to ground for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Would be nice to get one (two: I can dream) in early and give the group a bit of confidence/swagger. Mbuemo o Tyler would be supersonic for me!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Sibierski said: Agree, defenders that are regularly needing to do slide tackles are red flags for me. Because it usually means their positional play to start off with was wrong if needing to recover with a slide and/or, they’re hot headed and like to slide which increases the risk of giving away penalties. I see this said a fair bit and I kind of understand the sentiment but it depends. Slide tackling is a skill in itself and it really is useful when mastered. It can be part of the makeup of a physical aggressive defender that can intimidate the opposition. Provided it's not just some hot headed rash oaf diving in, I don't have an issue with it. Edited 14 hours ago by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago If he’s effective, that’s all that matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago This is the type of signing we need really. We need to buy young with resale. PSR isnt going away for us. Tomori being available for 5m more seems slightly grating though. He would be a great signing for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) Re: the slide tackling in the video. Surely it’s just because it’s the most flashy/high risk move a defender can do? Let’s not start some narrative that he “goes to ground regularly” because of some shit video with shit music put together by a teenager showing him slide tackling over and over again as a highlight reel. Edited 13 hours ago by cubaricho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) Because of what turned into over a decade of stocking up on Uzbek talents playing FM, I have had a vested interested in Uzbek footy for a while With that in mind, I'd cream my pants if we signed Khusanov. Edited 13 hours ago by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago I think a lot of CBs are scared to go to front because it can make them look silly. I love VVD and Saliba. But they both do this thing where they back off from an attacker because they don’t want to get embarrassed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I think a lot of CBs are scared to go to front because it can make them look silly. I love VVD and Saliba. But they both do this thing where they back off from an attacker because they don’t want to get embarrassed. Was watching Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink on Neville's Gogglebox thing and he said he loved physical defenders of the past because they'd get touch tight and he could spin off of them and get a shot off but when the likes of Rio Ferdinand started appearing on the scene, he didn't know what to do as they gave him more time and altered his decision making. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago I think John Terry was a master of positioning himself so your options as an attacker just decreased by the second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Astroblack said: Was watching Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink on Neville's Gogglebox thing and he said he loved physical defenders of the past because they'd get touch tight and he could spin off of them and get a shot off but when the likes of Rio Ferdinand started appearing on the scene, he didn't know what to do as they gave him more time and altered his decision making. Hasselbaink was powerfully built and could hold them off though, so that was his advantage. Doesn't apply to all strikers. There's always been a place for the likes of Rio's partner, Vidic. Uncompromising, physical defenders that are strong in the tackle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Astroblack said: Was watching Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink on Neville's Gogglebox thing and he said he loved physical defenders of the past because they'd get touch tight and he could spin off of them and get a shot off but when the likes of Rio Ferdinand started appearing on the scene, he didn't know what to do as they gave him more time and altered his decision making. Good point but I think there’s a middle ground. 2 minutes ago, Lotus said: I think John Terry was a master of positioning himself so your options as an attacker just decreased by the second. John Terry is one who had a great balance. If he had to slide, block etc. he would but also was composed and had great positioning. Always playing in a compact team in a mid to low block helped too. Rudigers one of my favourite defenders atm. Very under rated I think. Doesn’t get the credit he deserves for his overall football ability and non-physical defensive awareness and positioning. Not afraid to crunch an attacker when needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: Hasselbaink was powerfully built and could hold them off though, so that was his advantage. Doesn't apply to all strikers. There's always been a place for the likes of Rio's partner, Vidic. Uncompromising, physical defenders that are strong in the tackle. Aye, 100% agree. Best combination is to have a ball player like Rio and a tackler like Vidic. In today's game Saliba and Gabriel are probably the reference of what a centre back partnership should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, Astroblack said: Aye, 100% agree. Best combination is to have a ball player like Rio and a tackler like Vidic. In today's game Saliba and Gabriel are probably the reference of what a centre back partnership should be. Yeah, Rio and Vidic were such a great pairing, as they balanced each other out nicely. I've always liked having at least one centre back that is more aggressive and attacks everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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