Sempiternal Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 15 minutes ago, Pablo123 said: I'd try to get Neves from Saudi Need pace, and he doesn’t have any. Lovely player though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Sempiternal said: Need pace, and he doesn’t have any. Lovely player though Good positional sense, though, but I do agree. We get cut open quite often when we over commit and don't have any recovery pace when getting hit on the break, which happens quite often Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Yeah I really like him as a player, but the way we play we need someone with pace. He would definitely help with ball retention but yeah we get cut up too easily on transitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, Sempiternal said: Yeah I really like him as a player, but the way we play we need someone with pace. He would definitely help with ball retention but yeah we get cut up too easily on transitions. I wouldn't even know which players to suggest in that position nowadays with pace, because my knowledge of football, especially European football is nothing like it used to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 We just need another option. Both Longstaff and Miley getting 20+ games each in midfield is a disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 35 minutes ago, Pablo123 said: I wouldn't even know which players to suggest in that position nowadays with pace, because my knowledge of football, especially European football is nothing like it used to be. Hindsight of course but Alvarez at west ham would have been great for us. They bought really well with the Rice money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Can we not just punt on some ligue 1 athlete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 32 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: We just need another option. Both Longstaff and Miley getting 20+ games each in midfield is a disgrace. Harsh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 34 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: We just need another option. Both Longstaff and Miley getting 20+ games each in midfield is a disgrace. No, it's just the reality of an extreme situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 7 minutes ago, Sempiternal said: Hindsight of course but Alvarez at west ham would have been great for us. They bought really well with the Rice money Yeah, we were linked, too. Seems to have settled in well and would have given us a nice balance to push Bruno on a but further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 A disgrace Willock, Tonali, Joelinton, Anderson all regular or long term absentees through no fault of our own. We're not playing a 17 year old rookie at the very highest level for a laugh, more than half of our starting or rotation midfield isn't available, that's not something you can or even should mitigate for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Pablo123 said: Yeah, we were linked, too. Seems to have settled in well and would have given us a nice balance to push Bruno on a but further. He’s been brilliant for them, him and kudus was excellent business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) Our transfer approach made absolute sense. There are some alternatives you could argue for (an RW/AM instead of Barnes, a 6 or DM instead of Tonali maybe) but with the way we play and (ironically) seeing the affect that not having Gordan and Miggy rotation options has had on the way we play, our signings covered the most amount of bases and were smart, it's just been an extremely unlucky set of circumstances. The expression No good deed goes unpunished comes to mind. Edited January 13 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 3 hours ago, Sempiternal said: Hindsight of course but Alvarez at west ham would have been great for us. They bought really well with the Rice money Wouldn’t say Alvarez has much pace mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 3 hours ago, TRC said: Can we not just punt on some ligue 1 athlete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 We do need some bodies in soon but the finances have us over a barrel and I'd rather we didn't sign mediocre players just for the sake of it. That's how we've ended up with a squad full of dross that we can't shift. We need to be looking abroad and stop trying to sign players from the PL. If you're skint you go to LIDL, not Waitrose. I wonder if we have any targets for the summer that we might be able to bring forward on a loan with obligation basis...... RW and CM priorities imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, loki679 said: We do need some bodies in soon but the finances have us over a barrel and I'd rather we didn't sign mediocre players just for the sake of it. That's how we've ended up with a squad full of dross that we can't shift. We need to be looking abroad and stop trying to sign players from the PL. If you're skint you go to LIDL, not Waitrose. I wonder if we have any targets for the summer that we might be able to bring forward on a loan with obligation basis...... RW and CM priorities imo. I agree. However signing players from other leagues usually means a waiting period where they have to settle in and adjust to the PL. We arent in a position to wait or be patient imo. We need players who can perform right away. Im not against signing players from other leagues, i think that is a good strategy. Just pointing out the above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 11 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: A disgrace Willock, Tonali, Joelinton, Anderson all regular or long term absentees through no fault of our own. We're not playing a 17 year old rookie at the very highest level for a laugh, more than half of our starting or rotation midfield isn't available, that's not something you can or even should mitigate for. Exactly this. If we had any more options Miley probably wouldn’t have seen any action this season. There’s a balance to be struck and in terms of numbers we’re doing it just about right. Multiple severe injuries at the same time have torpedoed our season. There’s lessons to be learned in terms of spreading the workload more evenly, and we obviously need more quality if we want to compete, but to call the combined midfield options of Bruno, Tonali, Joelinton, Willock, Longstaff, Anderson and Miley a “disgrace” is laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 9 hours ago, loki679 said: We do need some bodies in soon but the finances have us over a barrel and I'd rather we didn't sign mediocre players just for the sake of it. That's how we've ended up with a squad full of dross that we can't shift. We need to be looking abroad and stop trying to sign players from the PL. If you're skint you go to LIDL, not Waitrose. I wonder if we have any targets for the summer that we might be able to bring forward on a loan with obligation basis...... RW and CM priorities imo. It’s a minor point, but we’re not skint and could happily shop at Fortnum & Mason, but all our neighbours are forcing us to shop at Heron Foods because they’re jealous of how much money we have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Go to Saudi ASAP. It's an obvious solution - short term support til the end of the season, keeps our powder dry for the summer. Absolutely worth it - with the right 2/3 signings - the bench/first team is much stronger and can actually put a run together where we go undefeated to end of the season even. That's how fine the margins currently are. Get 2/3 top players on loan - ideally at least one from each row below CM: Veiga, Milenkovic-Savic, Kante, Neves, Brozovic, Fofana, Kessie ATT: Mahrez/Mane/ASM/Benzema Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, kingxlnc said: Go to Saudi ASAP. It's an obvious solution - short term support til the end of the season, keeps our powder dry for the summer. Absolutely worth it - with the right 2/3 signings - the bench/first team is much stronger and can actually put a run together where we go undefeated to end of the season even. That's how fine the margins currently are. Get 2/3 top players on loan - ideally at least one from each row below CM: Veiga, Milenkovic-Savic, Kante, Neves, Brozovic, Fofana, Kessie ATT: Mahrez/Mane/ASM/Benzema What if Saudi teams don't want to give us players? Or those players don't want to come especially the ones who already played in England that will get hammered with tax? It's not a simple case of 'our owners are their owners' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, Fezzle said: What if Saudi teams don't want to give us players? Or those players don't want to come especially the ones who already played in England that will get hammered with tax? It's not a simple case of 'our owners are their owners' the tax issue is massive but would it count if it was just loans. and how much of those bastards wages would we pay? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Urgh, the idea of this... I think a bit of sick just came back up. I mean, I don't believe for a minute we'd sell Bruno to those scum, but if we did... no, just no. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/bruno-guimaraes-transfer-could-cost-28443589 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 10 hours ago, LFEE said: Wouldn’t say Alvarez has much pace mind. He’s not ASM for sure but he’s a good athlete. I love Bruno but sometimes it looks like he’s running with a fridge on his back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just now, huss9 said: the tax issue is massive but would it count if it was just loans. and how much of those bastards wages would we pay? Yeah I didn't even get into the obscene wages argument. The tax thing would count for anyone classed as UK residents earning money in this tax year I'd assume. Unless footballers operate on different rules to us peasants Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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