The Prophet Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 The Ramsdale links make far more sense if we're trying to get him on the cheap. That fits our MO. Can't see us agreeing a deal <£20m though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Cant see why we'd sign Ramsdale tbh. He's not better than Pope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Having a ball playing goalkeeper really makes so much sense. The Brentford goalkeeper was so good at passing it around, and Pope the opposite hoofing the ball back to them. I like the idea of a shot stopper like Pope. He made another unbelievable save. Really, world class. Just wish he could pass 2m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 4 minutes ago, arnonel said: Having a ball playing goalkeeper really makes so much sense. The Brentford goalkeeper was so good at passing it around, and Pope the opposite hoofing the ball back to them. I like the idea of a shot stopper like Pope. He made another unbelievable save. Really, world class. Just wish he could pass 2m Aye and the brentford keeper was at fault for 2 of our goals cos he was shit with actually saving the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 4 minutes ago, arnonel said: Having a ball playing goalkeeper really makes so much sense. The Brentford goalkeeper was so good at passing it around, and Pope the opposite hoofing the ball back to them. I like the idea of a shot stopper like Pope. He made another unbelievable save. Really, world class. Just wish he could pass 2m It's been said plenty on here. But to get a keeper as good as Pope, that is also good with his feet, isn't going to be cheap. For all that Flekken can ping it about. I thought he was poor for the Murphy goal. It was a great pass from Isak, but he got caught in no man's land and originally went for the ball and got nowhere near it. He got hands to the Isak finish, possibly being a bit harsh there, but he could have saved it. Then he was terrible for the 4th. So 3 goals out of 4 where I think he could be doing better. Is this Valencia keeper amazing with his feet? Not hard to be better than Pope at passing But it should be a real upgrade if that's what we're looking for. We know Ramsdale is, but he's also a bit of a clown show and no way is he a better 'keeper' than Pope. Edited May 20 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigen Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Ramsdale is another waste of money. Pope is better. Newcastle made a fantastic transfer window in 2022, but then Howe started to make the market and acquire in the inflated English market. Howe wanted also Kelvin Philips, remember... Serius mistake when the manager make the market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Rather have a keeper who can make saves over passing the ball. We've 10 other players who can pass, but only one person who can make a save. I know it's not that simple, but being a good keeper is more important than being a good footballer. If you're both, then you are elite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 So are we selling Pope? no way he sits on the bench and vice versa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 3 minutes ago, jack j said: Aye and the brentford keeper was at fault for 2 of our goals cos he was shit with actually saving the ball Didnt say he was a good keeper. Both things can be true. He can be good with ball at his feet, and crap at everything else. Which he was. Football has become an 11 man game. The keeper can be an effective weapon in building attacks. Equally, when we need to keep possession, doesn't help giving the opposition the ball back, time and time again. Not saying I dont like Pope. There aren't that many better at shot stopping, but if I could wave a wand, I would hope he gets his passing at least to Burns level :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Just now, Dokko said: Rather have a keeper who can make saves over passing the ball. We've 10 other players who can pass, but only one person who can make a save. I know it's not that simple, but being a good keeper is more important than being a good footballer. If you're both, then you are elite. Gianluigi Buffon Manuel Neuer Iker Casillas Oliver Kahn Petr Cech Peter Schmeichel Edwin van der Sar All not known for being good with the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Manuel Neuer? oooff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Just now, Slim said: Gianluigi Buffon Manuel Neuer Iker Casillas Oliver Kahn Petr Cech Peter Schmeichel Edwin van der Sar All not known for being good with the ball. The game has moved on since the majority of those were at their peak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 p.s. This is analogous to Burn at LB vs Hall (hides) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, Slim said: Gianluigi Buffon Manuel Neuer Iker Casillas Oliver Kahn Petr Cech Peter Schmeichel Edwin van der Sar All not known for being good with the ball. Some there who were totally fine but from an era where it wasn't a thing. It's only recently it's been important, probably around rafa and reina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 14 minutes ago, arnonel said: Having a ball playing goalkeeper really makes so much sense. The Brentford goalkeeper was so good at passing it around, and Pope the opposite hoofing the ball back to them. I like the idea of a shot stopper like Pope. He made another unbelievable save. Really, world class. Just wish he could pass 2m As a football fan im glad you like the idea of a goal keeper being shot stopper . Its kinda his main job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 16 hours ago, Matt1892 said: Iraola rotates him and Kerkez most games at left back. If you look at their games since the end of March where he missed a few games through injury he was sub, started, started, sub, started, sub, started, not in squad, started and sub. Yeah hes been on off for large spells, but the last round he wasnt injured or on the bench. This was wrong. Delete. Edited May 20 by nufc123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 11 minutes ago, NG32 said: As a football fan im glad you like the idea of a goal keeper being shot stopper . Its kinda his main job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 16 minutes ago, NG32 said: As a football fan im glad you like the idea of a goal keeper being shot stopper . Its kinda his main job. Like a "defender"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, ExiledGeordie said: I can’t see us signing Gallagher with Tonali coming back and re-signing Joelinton.. Yeah midfielder is surely bottom of list of priorities. We are fairly stacked in midfield unless someone is sold we have 7 players for 3 positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 No thank on Neto. Lovely little player, but he's made of glass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 2 minutes ago, gdm said: Yeah midfielder is surely bottom of list of priorities. We are fairly stacked in midfield unless someone is sold we have 7 players for 3 positions. CB, (Tosin/Kelly) RW, back up striker, possibly a GK too now. Edited May 20 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: Cant see why we'd sign Ramsdale tbh. He's not better than Pope. They arnt the same, Ramsdales attributes would contribute more to our high line/press than Popes do. A keeper that is able with his feet is massive boost to our style. Im getting the same vibes on here that we saw when we signed Pope, lots said why? Hes no better than Dubravka. Edited May 20 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Eh? Neuer is/was class with the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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