Optimistic Nut Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Manxst said: It’s my big worry for this coming season. Last year was unbelievable and beyond most expectations. Even the club say they didn’t expect it. This year, although it’s still obviously possible, to repeat it and finish in the CL spots will be an even bigger achievement for me. But I know a lot of fans will perceive a lower league position as a failure and the inevitable moaning and bitching will be loud. Will give up on supporters like that mind. If we're completely shite then fair enough, but as long we're still showing signs that we're building and a few signings next summer will push us on again, I'd take top 7. Edited July 21, 2023 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Will give up on supporters like that mind. If we're completely shite then as long we're still showing signs that we're building and a few signings next summer will push us on again, I'd take top 7. Yep. It’s a project and it seems like they have a long term plan. Progress is not often linear and there could be some ups and downs on the way. I’ve accepted that already and am ecstatic about the direction we are already headed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottoman Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Signing livramento for £30m is not the best option esp given the fee. We could've done better with frimpong from leverkusen. Rumours had it that he is valued at 40m euros, a price tag slightly above the reported fee for livramento, besides frimpong is very much better and proven even on global level (has played ucl and el). He had an incredible 9g and 11 assists in all competitions last season from RB. only a year older than livramento. Can't say much but there is a lot about him. You guys can check him out yourselves. Besides given trippier's age and the crucial role he plays, we will need a ready made backup for him, one that can replace with very little drop in quality. And I don't think livramento can offer this given the fact that he is coming from and acl injury( an unrecoverable injury) and only had 1 season at top flight level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Admins, do us a favour please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 It's all down to whether he's over his ACL - there is no doubting his ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ottoman said: Signing livramento for £30m is not the best option esp given the fee. We could've done better with frimpong from leverkusen. Rumours had it that he is valued at 40m euros, a price tag slightly above the reported fee for livramento, besides frimpong is very much better and proven even on global level (has played ucl and el). He had an incredible 9g and 11 assists in all competitions last season from RB. only a year older than livramento. Can't say much but there is a lot about him. You guys can check him out yourselves. Besides given trippier's age and the crucial role he plays, we will need a ready made backup for him, one that can replace with very little drop in quality. And I don't think livramento can offer this given the fact that he is coming from and acl injury( an unrecoverable injury) and only had 1 season at top flight level Most ACL injuries haven't been unrecoverable for 20 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ottoman said: Signing livramento for £30m is not the best option esp given the fee. We could've done better with frimpong from leverkusen. Rumours had it that he is valued at 40m euros, a price tag slightly above the reported fee for livramento, besides frimpong is very much better and proven even on global level (has played ucl and el). He had an incredible 9g and 11 assists in all competitions last season from RB. only a year older than livramento. Can't say much but there is a lot about him. You guys can check him out yourselves. Besides given trippier's age and the crucial role he plays, we will need a ready made backup for him, one that can replace with very little drop in quality. And I don't think livramento can offer this given the fact that he is coming from and acl injury( an unrecoverable injury) and only had 1 season at top flight level worrying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGRM Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ottoman said: Signing livramento for £30m is not the best option esp given the fee. We could've done better with frimpong from leverkusen. Rumours had it that he is valued at 40m euros, a price tag slightly above the reported fee for livramento, besides frimpong is very much better and proven even on global level (has played ucl and el). He had an incredible 9g and 11 assists in all competitions last season from RB. only a year older than livramento. Can't say much but there is a lot about him. You guys can check him out yourselves. Besides given trippier's age and the crucial role he plays, we will need a ready made backup for him, one that can replace with very little drop in quality. And I don't think livramento can offer this given the fact that he is coming from and acl injury( an unrecoverable injury) and only had 1 season at top flight level Of course players recover from ACL injuries (e.g. Shearer, van Dijk, van Nistelrooy, Xavi, Robert Pires……) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: Most ACL injuries haven't been unrecoverable for 20 years. Reminds me- I saw Richard Steadman died this year. He was THE go-to for all sporting ACL injuries back in the day, wasn’t he- every fucker was flying over to the US for him to treat them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 I got my ACL surgery in 1998. By 2000, I was near top speed and my lateral quickness was back. I wasn't an elite level short distance runner, but was fairly quick back in the day. Obviously not a professional athlete, but my doctor at the time expected me to make a full recovery. That was a quarter of a century ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, gbandit said: The football forum backlash to this transfer window if we don’t have a top 6 season is going to be something to behold Unfortunately it’ll be 7th or 8th this season. Nothing wrong with that given we’re way ahead of schedule in terms of revenue after this season champions league qualification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Unfortunately it’ll be 7th or 8th this season. Nothing wrong with that given we’re way ahead of schedule in terms of revenue after this season champions league qualification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Unfortunately it’ll be 7th or 8th this season. Nothing wrong with that given we’re way ahead of schedule in terms of revenue after this season champions league qualification. Fack orf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 35 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Admins, do us a favour please Who are these people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 45 minutes ago, Ottoman said: Signing livramento for £30m is not the best option esp given the fee. We could've done better with frimpong from leverkusen. Rumours had it that he is valued at 40m euros, a price tag slightly above the reported fee for livramento, besides frimpong is very much better and proven even on global level (has played ucl and el). He had an incredible 9g and 11 assists in all competitions last season from RB. only a year older than livramento. Can't say much but there is a lot about him. You guys can check him out yourselves. Besides given trippier's age and the crucial role he plays, we will need a ready made backup for him, one that can replace with very little drop in quality. And I don't think livramento can offer this given the fact that he is coming from and acl injury( an unrecoverable injury) and only had 1 season at top flight level Not sure Frimpong would come here and be second choice for a season or two. Good player. Think Livramento showed enough in his first season that he will make the step up. Will only get better under Trippier and with less pressure straight away. Big talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Unfortunately it’ll be 7th or 8th this season. Nothing wrong with that given we’re way ahead of schedule in terms of revenue after this season champions league qualification. Quite feasible. It's going to be a long season but I'm going to enjoy every minute of it! Us, Spurs and Manure are certainly going to be the most threatened to keep this year's standing. A much strengthen Liverpool without major European distractions, more so a hugely talents Chelsea squad, that surely Poch can get something out of, will be pushing along with Villa and Brighton again. Arsenal are stronger and Man City are still incredible. Dark horses beyond Brighton and Villa are West Ham. That's probably doing the likes of Brentford and Fulham a disservice too. Good thing Eddie and the boys like a challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Who are these people? Bitter fans of other clubs I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 I think they’re Shearergol under a different name to try and catch me out…again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 51 minutes ago, Ottoman said: Signing livramento for £30m is not the best option esp given the fee. We could've done better with frimpong from leverkusen. Rumours had it that he is valued at 40m euros, a price tag slightly above the reported fee for livramento, besides frimpong is very much better and proven even on global level (has played ucl and el). He had an incredible 9g and 11 assists in all competitions last season from RB. only a year older than livramento. Can't say much but there is a lot about him. You guys can check him out yourselves. Besides given trippier's age and the crucial role he plays, we will need a ready made backup for him, one that can replace with very little drop in quality. And I don't think livramento can offer this given the fact that he is coming from and acl injury( an unrecoverable injury) and only had 1 season at top flight level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 54 minutes ago, Ottoman said: Signing livramento for £30m is not the best option esp given the fee. We could've done better with frimpong from leverkusen. Rumours had it that he is valued at 40m euros, a price tag slightly above the reported fee for livramento, besides frimpong is very much better and proven even on global level (has played ucl and el). He had an incredible 9g and 11 assists in all competitions last season from RB. only a year older than livramento. Can't say much but there is a lot about him. You guys can check him out yourselves. Besides given trippier's age and the crucial role he plays, we will need a ready made backup for him, one that can replace with very little drop in quality. And I don't think livramento can offer this given the fact that he is coming from and acl injury( an unrecoverable injury) and only had 1 season at top flight level Do Bruno next Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 If we can sign Hall, another CB and a high level right forward (presuming Barnes and Livramento are done) then I think we have an outside chance of winning the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, LV said: Do Bruno next Then do Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, Matt1892 said: If we can sign Hall, another CB and a high level right forward (presuming Barnes and Livramento are done) then I think we have an outside chance of winning the league. But I like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Geordie Boyo said: I think they’re Shearergol under a different name to try and catch me out…again I could just post under this name Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, Matt1892 said: If we can sign Hall, another CB and a high level right forward (presuming Barnes and Livramento are done) then I think we have an outside chance of winning the league. Was gonna just reply with but we, or rather Howe, has exceeded expectations by a mile in each of his 2 seasons so far so stranger things have happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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