Harvey Barnes

[54]

Oh good. This debate again. Can we please give it a rest

[Jimburst]

8 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

Are you dense? 

 

[jackyboy]

Maybe the rumour about Gordon leaving is true. 

[The College Dropout]

Tbh I thought we were gonna sign a RW at some point that summer. It never happened. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

 

 

 

 

Just bumping this to prove a lot of people questioned why we were signing a LW and some assumed the plan was to move Gordon to the right. 
 

A lot of people felt we had options at LW and wanted a RW. 

 

I was just asking if Gordon could play RW which I'm pretty certain he can. 

[The Prophet]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

 

 

 

 

Just bumping this to prove a lot of people questioned why we were signing a LW and some assumed the plan was to move Gordon to the right. 
 

A lot of people felt we had options at LW and wanted a RW. 

 

You've nicely danced around three of the quoted posters acknowledging he might come into replace the outgoing ASM, but as you were. 

[The College Dropout]

31 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

I was just asking if Gordon could play RW which I'm pretty certain he can. 

Aye. Did you think it would make sense for Gordon to play RW and Barnes LW? 

[The College Dropout]

Most people didn’t think Barnes would be the only Winger signed. Including me. Barnes was signed with plenty of time to bring in a RW. 
 

Lots of ppl pointed out they would rather a RW. 

[54]

2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Most people didn’t think Barnes would be the only Winger signed. Including me. Barnes was signed with plenty of time to bring in a RW. 
 

Lots of ppl pointed out they would rather a RW. 

I feel like your arguing with yourself at this point my guy 

 

[Andy84]

Really like Harvey, offers something different and is a massive fret 

[The Prophet]

49 minutes ago, 54 said:

I feel like your arguing with yourself at this point my guy 

 

 

It's all part of a cycle that builds on the work of the great NE5:

 

1. Hypothesise about a past event, with hindsight and conjecture doing most of the heavy lifting.

2. A healthy debate breaks out.

3. Debate to a relentlessly tedious degree, until anyone who disagrees or points out obvious flaws, leaves to scream into a pillow or stick pins in their eyes.

4. Pat yourself on the back on a job well done.

5. Introduce a new theory, which frequently contradicts the previous one.

[The Prophet]

 

[SteV]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/aug/05/harvey-barnes-eddie-howe-newcastle-united-interview

[Guest]

rare injury was Fortnitus Collar. 

[Guest]

Nice goal, and that ball for Osula's disallowed one is the sort he'd feed Vardy with for fun, and would do for Isak too. Wouldn't be a surprise if he started v Southampton.

 

 

Edited August 11, 2024 by Optimistic Nut

[Danh1]

The disrespect he gets from our lot (mainly seen on social media, enough said ig) is mental. 
 

Might not skin 3 players, do a load of step overs or wear a Gucci head band but if he plays more next seasons he’ll have some decent GA stats. 

[The Butcher]

No nonsense winger. Class.

 

 

[Matt]

3 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

The disrespect he gets from our lot (mainly seen on social media, enough said ig) is mental. 
 

Might not skin 3 players, do a load of step overs or wear a Gucci head band but if he plays more next seasons he’ll have some decent GA stats. 

 

Totally agree. He also showed second half why he shouldn’t be trying mazy runs, but moving the ball out of his feet and cutting in he’s very effective. 

[Danh1]

1 minute ago, Matt said:

 

Totally agree. He also showed second half why he shouldn’t be trying mazy runs, but moving the ball out of his feet and cutting in he’s very effective. 

Loves a good 1-2 as well. 

[Guest]

Going to say it, he's better than Gordon. 

[Kanj]

Uh what, he’s not. 

 

 

Edited August 11, 2024 by Kanji

[Holloway]

[ExiledGeordie]

If Barnes is on form our best current option imo is him left and Gordon on the right against the top teams.

[ExiledGeordie]

3 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Going to say it, he's better than Gordon. 

Hes a different player. I think he’s a better finisher but he ls not as quick and doesn’t take players on like Gordon does. I could easily see him getting double figures in goals this season and if he hadn’t been injured I think we’d have been in Europe this season. His and Popes injury last season was critical.

[timnufc22]

Said it before, say it again; it should be  Barnes left Gordon right. For me, it just seems a real waste to not have the quality of that front 3 (with Isak) on the pitch at the same time and we’re handicapping ourselves by not choosing so. 
 

The reason why Gordon is just as good on the right is because his game is not really about coming inside to shoot or even coming inside and threading intricate passes - at least, not as much as Barnes. His game is about pace in behind, link up play, getting in good positions to score. He can go inside or outside on the right and I think having someone rapid as him going down the line at times adds a good balance to the other winger coming inside.

 

Barnes will give us goals and assists, we need his quality & technique in the final third when it comes to finishing. Look at his assist for the offside goal too. His form has been up and down, I remember he had a stinker away to palace last season, like most that night. But he needs a long run in the side to get into his rhythm and be afforded the odd misfire here and there. 
 

I do think Murphy is good enough as a squad player, I understand we need another winger quality wise but if Almiron isn’t sold then I’d actually not be averse to rotating him on the left now and again. Because he’s so one-footer it would force him to go on the outside and focus on whipping crosses in for runners and if Hall is left back, it would actually compliment him as there is a clear tactic for Hall to drift inside and even get into the box, which would dovetail well with Almiron going down the line.