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7 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

That touch when through on goal. Absolutely honking. Thankfully it didn't matter in the end.

Of all the things that happened you cry about that lmao just fuckin enjoy the hard fought win ya wet wipe

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Lush Vlad

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It was frustrating and you’d expect him to get that under and run through. But I feel like he kind of gets singled out for basically every error or bad performance (when others are even worse). Because of how disappointing last season was. 
 

Noticeable on here and on social media. 
 

Thought he was lively at both ends of the pitch. Gave us some much needed energy once Gordon was gassed. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

It was frustrating and you’d expect him to get that under and run through. But I feel like he kind of gets singled out for basically every error or bad performance (when others are even worse). Because of how disappointing last season was. 
 

Noticeable on here and on social media. 
 

Thought he was lively at both ends of the pitch. Gave us some much needed energy once Gordon was gassed. 

 

 

 


Can only speak for myself, but I haven’t been very fond of us signing him from the very beginning. Not a bad player and he’s effective and clinical when it comes to his finishing. I just think he’s a bit one dimensional and limited as a player in general. I’m sure he will score goals for us, but not the type of player I prefer. I feel like we la k som guile and technical ability overall, and I think it’s a reason why we often lack control unless we’re at our very best 200mph and full of energy’. 
 

I just don’t see him as the kind of player to take us to the next level. He’s a good player but Gordon starts every day of the week for me (he was also poor today). Expensive squad player is what i see Barnes as. 
 

Regarding that when he was sent through by Isak, yeah it was poor, but it could have happened to anyone really. If I remember it correctly it looked like his 1st touch was with his left so it kind of got away from him. The ball to him was class but also relatively hard tbf. 

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4 minutes ago, Ikon said:


Can only speak for myself, but I haven’t been very fond of us signing him from the very beginning. Not a bad player and he’s effective and clinical when it comes to his finishing. I just think he’s a bit one dimensional and limited as a player in general. I’m sure he will score goals for us, but not the type of player I prefer. I feel like we la k som guile and technical ability overall, and I think it’s a reason why we often lack control unless we’re at our very best 200mph and full of energy’. 
 

I just don’t see him as the kind of player to take us to the next level. He’s a good player but Gordon starts every day of the week for me (he was also poor today). Expensive squad player is what i see Barnes as. 
 

Regarding that when he was sent through by Isak, yeah it was poor, but it could have happened to anyone really. If I remember it correctly it looked like his 1st touch was with his left so it kind of got away from him. The ball to him was class but also relatively hard tbf. 


I can kind of see that. Howe does seem to favour system type players and we have a lot of direct or physical types. Who are great runners with or without the ball, powerful, athletic, quick etc. Yet we lack control and a bit of craft a lot of the time. 
 

I think we have all been guilty of using hindsight a bit with Barnes. Were many expecting Gordon to be so good after a fairly disappointing start? Surely even the coaching staff were shocked at how he exceeded all expectations. If we had signed Barnes say this season, after knowing how great Gordon is. Then that would be daft, of course. 
 

With our PSR predicament. I can agree that £38m for a bench player seems ridiculous. Need to try and get both of them in the team more often. Goal involvements through the roof.  

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2 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

I think we have all been guilty of using hindsight a bit with Barnes. Were many expecting Gordon to be so good after a fairly disappointing start? Surely even the coaching staff were shocked at how he exceeded all expectations. If we had signed Barnes say this season, after knowing how great Gordon is. Then that would be daft, of course. 

 

Aye, Gordon hadn't locked down that LW spot when we signed Barnes and we had just sold ASM. Looks much worse now than when the signing was made.

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33 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

It was frustrating and you’d expect him to get that under and run through. But I feel like he kind of gets singled out for basically every error or bad performance (when others are even worse). Because of how disappointing last season was. 
 

Noticeable on here and on social media. 
 

Thought he was lively at both ends of the pitch. Gave us some much needed energy once Gordon was gassed. 

 

 

 

 

Yep, a lot of the lads who were against the ASM sale love getting stuck into him. When we eventually move on from Miggy and Longstaff, he'll be getting it in the neck. 

 

The truth is underneath Wor Flags and a loyal away following, we have amongst some of the worst fans in the league who love nothing more than getting stuck into their own players at any opportunity.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

It's a conplete myth Gordon wasn't good before we signed Barnes like :lol:

 

He looked great but obviously wasn't up to speed fitness and tactics wise. 

 

It's not that he wasn't good, but he hadn't nailed down that left wing spot.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Yep, a lot of the lads who were against the ASM sale love getting stuck into him. When we eventually move on from Miggy and Longstaff, he'll be getting it in the neck. 

 

The truth is underneath Wor Flags and a loyal away following, we have amongst some of the worst fans in the league who love nothing more than getting stuck into their own players at any opportunity.

 

 

 

Like on here you mean?

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It was a difficult game to come in to as we were up against it but he wasn’t very good when he was on, he hardly touched the ball and didn’t put a great deal of effort in when closing down in the final 20 minutes, compared to Joelinton, Bruno and Longstaff.

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Skeletor

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Just now, gazza ladra said:

Barnes is going to make a lot of people eat their words.

 

Hopefully. I thought he was a really good signing when he came, but he has been below expectations so far. Hopefully this is his season.

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2 minutes ago, gazza ladra said:

Barnes is going to make a lot of people eat their words.


Im sure he will be better than he has shown lately, no doubt about that. But he’s not gonna make me eat my words. 

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Lush Vlad

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46 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

It's a conplete myth Gordon wasn't good before we signed Barnes like :lol:

 

He looked great but obviously wasn't up to speed fitness and tactics wise. 


Complete myth? He came in and showed glimpses. Then got injured if memory serves? Came back and was good if a bit inconsistent and didn’t score or assist until the last game of the season, I think.
 

Hardly could have predicted the season he had. Even though he was obviously going to improve with a preseason. 
 

You’ve got it the other way around. If I could be arsed to go and check his thread. I would :lol: 

 

 

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44 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Yep, a lot of the lads who were against the ASM sale love getting stuck into him. When we eventually move on from Miggy and Longstaff, he'll be getting it in the neck. 

 

The truth is underneath Wor Flags and a loyal away following, we have amongst some of the worst fans in the league who love nothing more than getting stuck into their own players at any opportunity.

 

 

 


I didn’t want ASM to leave. But can understand why Howe would want someone different and in hindsight. It was the correct call. 
 

I think Barnes is a good player and glad we got him. But using hindsight, again. Perhaps we could have used the £38m on someone who is more comfortable on the right. Whilst also able to do a job on the left. 

 

On that last bit. Not sure we’re any better or worse than any other club for being dickheads towards our own players? Not frequented other team’s forums or social media posts to check. From general pub talk. It depends on the person and it’s more about personalities, I find. 
 

 

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Skeletor

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Gordon's first six months were very rough. Remember that Villa game in particular where he got hauled off and had a tantrum. It made sense signing Barnes, its only in hindsight now that we can say "well maybe we could have used the money to buy a RW instead". We'd just sold ASM and needed another left winger.

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